360 just doesn't have something THIS epic! *spoiler*

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#1 Slambo86
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGr8BBeAOa8

(MGS4)

And people wonder why this game got a 10, its the mix of perfected camera/cinematic work and deep character developement..mixed in with some of the best stealth gameplay/action. Of course not everyone is into this level of emotional story telling, but you can't argue the level of detail, konami has put in it...mainly Master mind HIDEO KOJIMA.

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#2 Fizzman
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got a PS3 specifically for MGSIV, and it was good, but it wasnt that epic. MGS3 was alot better.

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awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

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awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

AdrianWerner

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

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#5 doll94
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i didnt really like metal gear 4 to be honest
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#6 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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got a PS3 specifically for MGSIV, and it was good, but it wasnt that epic. MGS3 was alot better.

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100% agree
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#7 cainetao11
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Right on Fizzman. I got a PS3 the month 4 came out. Game is a blast. MGS was always one of my favorite series. However, for the first time I could almost shoot my way through, there was no deception in beating all but the last B&B, and so many of the cutscenes were needlessly melodramatic, drawn out self stroking. Would like to see Kojima tell these great stories more efficiently. MGS 3 is my favorite also. Great game but I liked ME story and gameplay wise just as much.
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#8 xscott1018
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yes, the game is epic. i didn't think that, the video was that epic. metal gear is an epic game.
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#9 xscott1018
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metal gear is an epic game. i don't think that the video was that epic.
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awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

AdrianWerner

Is there any game out there that is indeed, 'for everyone'?

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One of my favourite games this gen.

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#12 STRETCH-E
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MGS4 indeed is not for everyoneAdrianWerner

You're right. It's for people who like good 10/10 games.

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#13 realer21
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msg 4 was only epic tomsg fans. others like myself just thought it was a very good game.

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#14 Chaos_HL21
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Not yet, wait for afew weeks and it will have something that epic ;)

Joking, MGS4 was a great game, but nothing on the level as people are hyping it to be.

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#15 CAlNlAC
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got a PS3 specifically for MGSIV, and it was good, but it wasnt that epic. MGS3 was alot better.

Fizzman

Yeah thats how I feel as well.

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mgs4 brought tears to my eyes in the ending i was totally moved by it excelent game!

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msg 4 was only epic tomsg fans. others like myself just thought it was a very good game.

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Hey I love the NY Rangers, too but Madison Square Garden is just MSG. Just joking I know what you meant.
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#18 masiisam
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Far from epic....cant stand stealth games...but if someone is into that type of thing ...then I am sure it floats their boat

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#19 cainetao11
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msg 4 was only epic tomsg fans. others like myself just thought it was a very good game.

realer21
Hey I love the NY Rangers, too but Madison Square Garden is just MSG. Just joking I know what you meant.
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#21 chathuranga
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got a PS3 specifically for MGSIV, and it was good, but it wasnt that epic. MGS3 was alot better.

Fizzman
Same with me except I didn't buy a PS3 just for MGS 4.
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eh.....I played & finished MGS4 and rated it a 9.0 / 10.0. Great game, but far from being a perfect 10.0

I can see how an MGS fan ( or a cow ) would think MGS4 is "teh awesomest game evar !!one!!! ", but to everyone else, they'll just be lost on the story. I had to stop playing MGS4to watch GameTrailer's MGS recaps just so that I could at least keep up on the story.

For most games, the story isn't really important at all, but for MGS4, the story matters much. Great graphics, audio, and cinematics though.

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#23 realer21
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[QUOTE="realer21"]

msg 4 was only epic tomsg fans. others like myself just thought it was a very good game.

cainetao11

Hey I love the NY Rangers, too but Madison Square Garden is just MSG. Just joking I know what you meant.

wow, did i do that. lol

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

S0LIDUS311

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

because your opinion is oh-so important to everyone here right? :roll:
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eh.....I played & finished MGS4 and rated it a 9.0 / 10.0. Great game, but far from being a perfect 10.0

I can see how an MGS fan ( or a cow ) would think MGS4 is "teh awesomest game evar !!one!!! ", but to everyone else, they'll just be lost on the story. I had to stop playing MGS4to watch GameTrailer's MGS recaps just so that I could at least keep up on the story.

For most games, the story isn't really important at all, but for MGS4, the story matters much. Great graphics, audio, and cinematics though.

LosDaddie

So you hadn't played the previous MGS games?

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[QUOTE="S0LIDUS311"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

bingbaocao

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

because your opinion is oh-so important to everyone here right? :roll:

As much as anyone else. What's your point?

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#27 PAL360
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MGS4 is a great game but i wouldnt call that battle epic. Just look this vid in HD to see an EPIC battle :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2i8Q6ohAsE

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#28 ragek1ll589
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MGS4 was a very well made game, but it didn't "grab me" as previous MGS games had. In a way, I was disappointed with it.

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#29 dark-warmachine
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I still think MGS3 is the best in theseries.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

S0LIDUS311

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

No need to get offended over opinions. It obviously meant something to you if you feel the need to comment in such a manner.

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#31 Avian005
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MGS4 is a great game. I loved it when I played it, but it was far from perfect. I felt nothing for any of the characters in the game, and the story wasn't all that epic either.

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#32 S0LIDUS311
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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="S0LIDUS311"]

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

STRETCH-E

because your opinion is oh-so important to everyone here right? :roll:

As much as anyone else. What's your point?

Metal gear solid as a series has always been convoluted and pretentious. To expect anything new from metal gear solid 4 would be stupid. Sure it's got it's flaws, but I love it. And hate to see it bashed by someone.

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A downgrade from MGS3, and had the least emphasis of stealth out of any title in the franchise. Yeah, I think I don't care.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

S0LIDUS311

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

Or meybe he's not looking for good storytelling in those games, maybe he's looking for good gameplay? It's not like Kojima ever was capable of delivering this "Grade A storytelling" either anyway

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#35 Avian005
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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] because your opinion is oh-so important to everyone here right? :roll:S0LIDUS311

As much as anyone else. What's your point?

Metal gear solid as a series has always been convoluted and pretentious. To expect anything new from metal gear solid 4 would be stupid. Sure it's got it's flaws, but I love it. And hate to see it bashed by someone.

No, expecting nothing new was be idiotic. Not everyone shares your opinion.

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#36 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

eh.....I played & finished MGS4 and rated it a 9.0 / 10.0. Great game, but far from being a perfect 10.0

I can see how an MGS fan ( or a cow ) would think MGS4 is "teh awesomest game evar !!one!!! ", but to everyone else, they'll just be lost on the story. I had to stop playing MGS4to watch GameTrailer's MGS recaps just so that I could at least keep up on the story.

For most games, the story isn't really important at all, but for MGS4, the story matters much. Great graphics, audio, and cinematics though.

STRETCH-E

So you hadn't played the previous MGS games?

I played MGS2 in college with roommates & friends. Barely remember the story.

Never even cared to play MGS3

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#37 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="S0LIDUS311"]

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

STRETCH-E

because your opinion is oh-so important to everyone here right? :roll:

As much as anyone else. What's your point?

it is one thing to say "i disagree with you" it is very different to be offensive about it
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[QUOTE="S0LIDUS311"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

AdrianWerner

Look at the games in your "next batch". I guess you're looking forward to some Grade A story telling with those winners. Your credibility = nothing to me.

Or meybe he's not looking for good storytelling in those games, maybe he's looking for good gameplay? It's not like Kojima ever was capable of delivering this "Grade A storytelling" either anyway

after playing the horrible game that was sons of liberty for the PS2 i could never play a metal gear game again... and i actually liked the GBC and PS1 versions of metal gear

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That game was a total joke. :|

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

awful writing, convulted and messy storytelling, shallow unrealistic characters, B-Movie like cinematics direction and weak stealth gameplay. MGS4 indeed is not for everyone

BioShockOwnz

Agreed. The convoluted and pretentious story filled with more cheese than an episode of SNL. This game didn't work its magic with me. I dropped it like a bad habit, but then again, it wasn't a habit, but more of a curse.

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#40 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

eh.....I played & finished MGS4 and rated it a 9.0 / 10.0. Great game, but far from being a perfect 10.0

I can see how an MGS fan ( or a cow ) would think MGS4 is "teh awesomest game evar !!one!!! ", but to everyone else, they'll just be lost on the story. I had to stop playing MGS4to watch GameTrailer's MGS recaps just so that I could at least keep up on the story.

For most games, the story isn't really important at all, but for MGS4, the story matters much. Great graphics, audio, and cinematics though.

LosDaddie

So you hadn't played the previous MGS games?

I played MGS2 in college with roommates & friends. Barely remember the story.

Never even cared to play MGS3

MGS2 is often considered to be the low-point of the franchise, but MGS3 is the pinnacle. Seriously, it's amazing.
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#41 360ru13r
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I will admit that ending was nice but I have seen better escpially on the 360. The game Ninja Gaiden 2 ring a bell. It may no have the story but the fight were way more bad ass.

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#42 BoloTheGreat
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I think the game is possibly the exact opposite of HL2. Just think about it for a minute and you will see what i mean.
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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] because your opinion is oh-so important to everyone here right? :roll:S0LIDUS311

As much as anyone else. What's your point?

Metal gear solid as a series has always been convoluted and pretentious. To expect anything new from metal gear solid 4 would be stupid. Sure it's got it's flaws, but I love it. And hate to see it bashed by someone.

You do realize people are always going to have a different opinion..An opinion different than yours does not equal "bashing"...and how you respond to a difference of opinion illustrates the type of person you are...

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I think the game is possibly the exact opposite of HL2. Just think about it for a minute and you will see what i mean. BoloTheGreat
i think i get what you mean lol
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]I think the game is possibly the exact opposite of HL2. Just think about it for a minute and you will see what i mean. bingbaocao
i think i get what you mean lol

you mean you experience all of the actions as opposed to watching it? Cause i agree with that. Who here would have loved to Spoiler-----------Play as Raiden during that cinematic were he tore up those mechs?-----------------End Spoiler

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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]I think the game is possibly the exact opposite of HL2. Just think about it for a minute and you will see what i mean. bingbaocao
i think i get what you mean lol

Seriiusly people, dwell on it for a while, there is a method my madness :o!!

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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]I think the game is possibly the exact opposite of HL2. Just think about it for a minute and you will see what i mean. Fizzman

i think i get what you mean lol

you mean you experience all of the actions as opposed to watching it? Cause i agree with that. Who here would have loved to Spoiler-----------Play as Raiden during that cinematic were he tore up those mechs?-----------------End Spoiler

Screw Raiden, I always wanted to be Greyfox. A pity the fact he isn't real in the game kinda kills any hope for that.
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#48 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

So you hadn't played the previous MGS games?

Verge_6

I played MGS2 in college with roommates & friends. Barely remember the story.

Never even cared to play MGS3

MGS2 is often considered to be the low-point of the franchise, but MGS3 is the pinnacle. Seriously, it's amazing.

Yeah, that's what I hear. The GT TV recap made MGS3 look great. I think I was busy with Halo2 and NFL 2k5 at the time and just never got around to playing MGS3. And there's no way I'm going back & playing it now.

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This is the only game that deserves a 10 on GS.

What a ride from start to finish, and you're right TC there will never ever bea game as epic as MGS4 on the 360, nor will there ever be a game as epic as MGS4 this gen...

It was 10 years in themaking and Kojima couldn't have ended it any better than he did with that last cutscene.

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#50 jonnyt61
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I remember a thread recently about how many fans the different systems had.... Apparently, Sony had the most. Reading this thread, with the absolutely ridiculous amount of MGS4 bashing, you'd seriously have to consider otherwise :|