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#1 Solidyeas
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Microsoft seem to think stealing sony's exclusives and exclusive DLC will win this gen. At the moment the only real 1st party devs are Lionhead and Rare.

Nobody is going to buy a 360 for tomb raider DLC.

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They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats good
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I still don't understand the Tomb Raider DLC. Couldn't they have gotten something better?
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Their console lives off multiplatform games -- 3rd party games drive drive their system, they truly don't need exclusives. Sure, it's great to have them, but they arn't needed this generation.
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#5 too_much_eslim
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They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodplod2
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?
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Their console lives off multiplatform games -- 3rd party games drive drive their system, they truly don't need exclusives. Sure, it's great to have them, but they arn't needed this generation.Stevo_the_gamer

Nor do they exist this generation.

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#7 jg4xchamp
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and Turn 10...u forget them

but agreed

Microsoft needs to start funding more 1st/2nd party projects....I don't get the Tomb Raider deal...maybe if this was 98 or whatever when Tomb Raider was actually awesome and a huge franchise.
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#8 angelkimne
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Their console lives off multiplatform games -- 3rd party games drive drive their system, they truly don't need exclusives. Sure, it's great to have them, but they arn't needed this generation.Stevo_the_gamer
Well put.
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#9 stappy
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Microsoft seem to think stealing sony's exclusives and exclusive DLC will win this gen. At the moment the only real 1st party devs are Lionhead and Rare.

Nobody is going to buy a 360 for tomb raider DLC.

Solidyeas

You're forgetting the 3rd party devs that prefer the 360 such as Epic and Bioware.

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#10 too_much_eslim
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I still don't understand the Tomb Raider DLC. Couldn't they have gotten something better?Ragnarok1051
honestly of all the game to be securing something TR is the last game I would think of. Maybe they saw something we didn't.

I would prefer they build more studios so that they can develop more games, but as of right now I have been satisfied by them.

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[QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodtoo_much_eslim
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

Nah it's crap. Overall i prefer playing 3rd party games, don't know why people fight over exclusives.
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#12 SolidTy
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Well, don't forget that they did aquire exclusives before the Wii and PS3 were out. Those count, ya know.

Also, They may have closed/lost a bunch of 1st party/2nd party stuff, but they just need to buy Timed Exclusives and some Exclusive DLC and everything will be great.

Besides, the 360 didn't need 1st party games when it launched. After Launch, they went an ENTIRE Year with no 1st party games, and the sales were wonderful, remember?

That proves that 1st party games are overated...at least in M$ opinion.

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I'll quote Blackbond, he said everything it must be said:

It pools games from the PS3 that the PC doesn't get and it pools them from the PC that PS3 doesn't get all while still having much more quality exclusives atm than the PS3.

Blackbond

That summarizes the actual situation.

The 360 has some of the best PS3 multiplats (FFXIII, DMC, Tekken 6) , some of the best PC (Mass Effedct, The Orange Box, Bioshock, L4D, Alan Wake) multiplats, and also has exlcusives like:

Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable II, Ninja Gaiden 2, Banjo Kazooie K&B, Viva Pinata, Tales of Vesperia, Halo Wars, Halo 3 Recon.

Imo, the 360 is in a extremely solid position right now.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodgameofthering
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

Nah it's crap. Overall i prefer playing 3rd party games, don't know why people fight over exclusives.

And I assume you own Halo 3?
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[QUOTE="gameofthering"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodangelkimne
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

Nah it's crap. Overall i prefer playing 3rd party games, don't know why people fight over exclusives.

And I assume you own Halo 3?

If he does -- I'd like to see his gamertag as well.
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#16 stappy
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I'll quote Blackbond, he said everything it must be said:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

It pools games from the PS3 that the PC doesn't get and it pools them from the PC that PS3 doesn't get all while still having much more quality exclusives atm than the PS3.

IronBass

That summarizes the actual situation.

The 360 has some of the best PS3 multiplats (FFXIII, DMC, Tekken 6) , some of the best PC (Mass Effedct, The Orange Box, Bioshock, L4D, Alan Wake) multiplats, and also has exlcusives like:

Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable II, Ninja Gaiden 2, Banjo Kazooie K&B, Viva Pinata, Tales of Vesperia, Halo Wars, Halo 3 Recon.

Imo, the 360 is in a extremely solid position right now.

People seem to be forgetting the Arcade games. Most of them count as exclusives too.

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They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodplod2
That's your opinion, and it sucks!
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#18 jasonheyman
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Microsoft will own it all one day lol j/k... But "stealing" exclusives i don't know if I'd put it that way. More like devs wanting a piece of the 360 pie:D
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="gameofthering"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodStevo_the_gamer
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

Nah it's crap. Overall i prefer playing 3rd party games, don't know why people fight over exclusives.

And I assume you own Halo 3?

If he does -- I'd like to see his gamertag as well.

I 'll send you two private messages then. Just message me when you want to play something.
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#21 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

I'll quote Blackbond, he said everything it must be said:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

It pools games from the PS3 that the PC doesn't get and it pools them from the PC that PS3 doesn't get all while still having much more quality exclusives atm than the PS3.

stappy

That summarizes the actual situation.

The 360 has some of the best PS3 multiplats (FFXIII, DMC, Tekken 6) , some of the best PC (Mass Effedct, The Orange Box, Bioshock, L4D, Alan Wake) multiplats, and also has exlcusives like:

Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable II, Ninja Gaiden 2, Banjo Kazooie K&B, Viva Pinata, Tales of Vesperia, Halo Wars, Halo 3 Recon.

Imo, the 360 is in a extremely solid position right now.

People seem to be forgetting the Arcade games. Most of them count as exclusives too.

Agreed. Games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Geometry Wars 2 or Alien Hominid HD stand as an excellent addition to the lineup.

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#22 jg4xchamp
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They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodplod2
no offense but if we go on this opinion here

then didn't it take the PS3 until the MGS 4 to get a good exclusive

and it hasn't gotten anything else worth mentioning at all

just saying.
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#23 HarlockJC
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Well more exclusives would be nice and all. Has long as MS does not close down Rare they will have the exclusives I want.

There is also Mistwalkers

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#24 masiisam
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At this point in the generation and how this gen started (MS having a year head start) exclusives will not have a huge impact.

Less expensive hardware and a solid game library will win... ...MS acquiring huge Sony exclusives and dropping the price of the hardware.... MS is on the right track with both..

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#25 naruto7777
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HAlo 3

Gears 1 and 2

what else do you need

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#26 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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HAlo 3

Gears 1 and 2

what else do you need

naruto7777
Gear of War isn't exclusive, lad. :P
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#27 jackvegas21
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Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.
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#28 SolidTy
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Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.jackvegas21

Which Exclusive Games aren't very good at all, just curious?

Uncharted?

Ratchet&Clank?

Wipeout?

Warhawk?

Metal Gear Solid 4?

Resistance?

Folklore?

Eye of Judgement?

MLB:The Show?

MotorStorm?

Heavenly Sword?

SingStar?

SuperStarHD?

Disgaia 3?

Maybe you meant Upcoming games?

God of War III?

Resistance 2

LittleBigPlanet?

SOCOM?
Gran Turismo 5?

White Knight Chronicles?

I realize that not everyone likes every game, but to call games "not very good" is pretty harsh, especially when the critics disagree...and gamers with an actual PS3 are talking.

Quite frankly, your post is rather confusing, all the platforms have good exclusives, not just the system you chose.

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#29 Cloud_Insurance
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I've actually enjoyed a lot of 360 exclusives that haven't gotten great reviews - games like Too Human, Spectral Force 3 and Operation Darkness...
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#30 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodgameofthering
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

Nah it's crap. Overall i prefer playing 3rd party games, don't know why people fight over exclusives.

You haven't even started the single player campaign >.>
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[QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodtoo_much_eslim
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

well, sure but thats it, teh only game im interested in is gears 2, then im selling my 360
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#32 thinicer
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I think that Xbox 360 has enough quality titles on it so that you don't have to buy a PC or a PS3, if that's your cup of tea.
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For me they don't. As long as they keep pumpiing out the games regardless if they are exclusive or not... t'll be the only system I need this gen.
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#34 espoac
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Their lack of first party studios isn't a problem now, but it very well could become a big problem in a year or so.
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[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.SolidTy

Which Exclusive Games aren't very good at all, just curious?

Uncharted?

Ratchet&Clank?

Wipeout?

Warhawk?

Metal Gear Solid 4?

Resistance?

Folklore?

Eye of Judgement?

MLB:The Show?

MotorStorm?

Heavenly Sword?

SingStar?

SuperStarHD?

Disgaia 3?

Maybe you meant Upcoming games?

God of War III?

Resistance 2

LittleBigPlanet?

SOCOM?
Gran Turismo 5?

White Knight Chronicles?

Underlined ones are the games that don't/won't suck.... and two of them aren't out yet.

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#36 fixer293
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Halo and gears are not good exclusives now?

Keep grasping for straws man.

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#37 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.Zero5000X

Which Exclusive Games aren't very good at all, just curious?

Uncharted?

Ratchet&Clank?

Wipeout?

Warhawk?

Metal Gear Solid 4?

Resistance?

Folklore?

Eye of Judgement?

MLB:The Show?

MotorStorm?

Heavenly Sword?

SingStar?

SuperStarHD?

Disgaia 3?

Maybe you meant Upcoming Games?

God of War III?

Resistance 2

LittleBigPlanet?

SOCOM?
Gran Turismo 5?

White Knight Chronicles?

Underlined ones are the games that don't/won't suck.... and two of them aren't out yet.

You mean that you Don't LIKE them, because none of those games suck. They all got good scores.
That's like COWS bashing Kameo, Crackdown, Dead Rising, etc saying they suck. They don't suck, they just may not like them.

I didn't mention more either, like InFamous, Siren, Calling All Cars, Ratchet DL, BUZZ, etc.

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#38 SolidTy
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Halo and gears are not good exclusives now?

Keep grasping for straws man.

fixer293

No, they are great games, he was grasping.

That's like people saying Resistance isn't good, when it is. He may not like Halo, but it's still good.

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#39 Zero5000X
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.SolidTy

Which Exclusive Games aren't very good at all, just curious?

Uncharted?

Ratchet&Clank?

Wipeout?

Warhawk?

Metal Gear Solid 4?

Resistance?

Folklore?

Eye of Judgement?

MLB:The Show?

MotorStorm?

Heavenly Sword?

SingStar?

SuperStarHD?

Disgaia 3?

Maybe you meant Upcoming Games?

God of War III?

Resistance 2

LittleBigPlanet?

SOCOM?
Gran Turismo 5?

White Knight Chronicles?

Underlined ones are the games that don't/won't suck.... and two of them aren't out yet.

You mean that you Don't LIKE them, because none of those games suck. They all got good scores.
That's like COWS bashing Kameo, Crackdown, Dead Rising, etc saying they suck. They don't suck, they just may not like them.

I didn't mention more either, like InFamous.

what the hell did you think i was talking about? what elvis likes?

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#40 angelkimne
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Halo and gears are not good exclusives now?

Keep grasping for straws man.

fixer293

Don't forget Crackdown!

Best sandbox game this gen imho.

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#41 stappy
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I think the 360 has enough exclusives. Dead Rising, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Blue Dragon, Crackdown, Saints Row, Halo 3, Braid, Castle Crashers, Geometry Wars 2, and a whole lot others i can't remember. That's those that are out right now. Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, and Gears of War 2 are likely to stay exclusive, while Fable 2, Halo 3: Recon, Alan Wake(LIVE Exclusive), Halo Wars, and Halo Chronicles will only go multiplat if they don't sell well. With the exception of Alan Wake(PC and 360 are apparently the only platforms capable of handling it).
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#42 Metsvideogame
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Forza 3 , the other Halo project, and its not like games arent going to be announced. Lets be real, they can be like Sony and announce games that will be released in 4 years. hahaha I mean you people think MS will not stop working making the gamers experience better and better. They will probably get MGS4 down the road, you just dont know.
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#43 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="plod2"]They do need some better exclusives. They'll haven't had a good exclusive since Gears of War 1, and they're only getting Fable 2 this year thats goodStealthKnife
So Halo 3 isn't a good exclusive?

well, sure but thats it, teh only game im interested in is gears 2, then im selling my 360

Only thing you like are shooters?
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#44 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.Zero5000X

Which Exclusive Games aren't very good at all, just curious?

Uncharted?

Ratchet&Clank?

Wipeout?

Warhawk?

Metal Gear Solid 4?

Resistance?

Folklore?

Eye of Judgement?

MLB:The Show?

MotorStorm?

Heavenly Sword?

SingStar?

SuperStarHD?

Disgaia 3?

Maybe you meant Upcoming Games?

God of War III?

Resistance 2

LittleBigPlanet?

SOCOM?
Gran Turismo 5?

White Knight Chronicles?

Underlined ones are the games that don't/won't suck.... and two of them aren't out yet.

You mean that you Don't LIKE them, because none of those games suck. They all got good scores.
That's like COWS bashing Kameo, Crackdown, Dead Rising, etc saying they suck. They don't suck, they just may not like them.

I didn't mention more either, like InFamous.

what the hell did you think i was talking about? what elvis likes?

No, we here at SW use GS reviews, or even Critics reviews from whereever you want. You saying they suck is wrong,they are good games. You not liking them is usually due to not liking the genre...do you have a PS3? Either way, he said those games weren't good at all, and he was Incorrect.

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#45 too_much_eslim
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hey SolidTy, how is Eye of Judgement? I am not normally into card games, but I just like teh whole concept of that game. I still need to get Culdacept Saga. teh demo was very addicting.
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#46 SolidTy
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hey SolidTy, how is Eye of Judgement? I am not normally into card games, but I just like teh whole concept of that game. I still need to get Culdacept Saga. teh demo was very addicting.too_much_eslim

It's really cool, but it does take time to set up(like 5 minutes.). It can be incredible fun if you have a friend to play with...Culdcept, I actually own, but it didn't grab me. I have it filed away, so I can try again when I need something to play. What I did like for the original Xbox that was CardBased is PHANTOM DUST, great game...but again, way more fun if you have someone to play with.

Eye of Judgement is fun against the computer, kind of like Pokemon meets Chess meets Poker (It's very D&Dish). It's fun, but it can get pricey if you go and buy a ton of decks. very Underated, but criticially it got good scores, which is the ONLY reaosn I even bothered.

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#47 Zero5000X
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No, we here at SW use GS reviews, or even Critics reviews from whereever you want. You saying they suck is wrong,they are good games. You not liking them is usually due to not liking the genre...do you have a PS3? Either way, he said those games weren't good at all, and he was Incorrect.

SolidTy

But according to critics they aren't good.

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#48 thelastguy
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I think MS. Sony and Nintendo all need more exclusives.
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#49 world69star69
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Maybe. Maybe not. Even though PS3 has more exclusives, most of them aren't very good at all. So its all relative. 360 just has more games I like.Zero5000X

Which Exclusive Games aren't very good at all, just curious?

Uncharted?

Ratchet&Clank?

Wipeout?

Warhawk?

Metal Gear Solid 4?

Resistance?

Folklore?

Eye of Judgement?

MLB:The Show?

MotorStorm?

Heavenly Sword?

SingStar?

SuperStarHD?

Disgaia 3?

Maybe you meant Upcoming games?

God of War III?

Resistance 2

LittleBigPlanet?

SOCOM?
Gran Turismo 5?

White Knight Chronicles?

Underlined ones are the games that don't/won't suck.... and two of them aren't out yet.

You are insane, these are all great games!!! I own everyone of these that are out, and I just got my ps3 in april when gta4 came out. I love it, played the damned 360 at my friends house before making my choice, and did resarch to see what is the better deal with both games and functions of the console. The ps3 has superior tech, more built in, no rrod, very good games, playing heavenly sword and uncharted in the store last year was a blast, nothing beat them on the 360 side. I am a pc gamer first and foremost, but the lack of new exclusives for pc (blame M$/xbox and pirates for that fiasco) led me back to get a console after skipping the last gen. The ps1 was my favorite console of all time...

I played halo 3 and tf2(much better on pc) on the xbox and I hated how multiplayer worked. You lemmings praise the live for its great online, how is it great, because you can voice chat accross games? Who cares. I like playing the game I am playing not chatting with somebody else, while i am playing the game, if thats really important I can send a text msg through in game xmb.. Then there is the horrible 16 player max on peer to peer, through live.... that you have to pay for. Coming from the pc world where online is FREE..that is not what i want, if you have to pay for something you better get the best and the best is DEDICATED SERVERS like on pc which is what the PS3 uses, so you can have 60 player online. I would never pay cash for online service period!

Sorry to rant about this, but someone saying all those games suck is retarted! Just because you don't own the ps3 is no reason to bash its games! You probably never even played them! ALL those games are top notch! I love my ps3 and will defend it to the end. It was the best purchase I have made as far as game consoles, and I've owned consoles since the atari and intellivision back in 84' The only gen that i skipped was ps2/gc/xbox, do to pc thriving then.

Yeah m$ is going to loose out not having 1st party devs. They killed Ensemble, they could of put them back on pc development so a new age of empires could come out. but no they weren't part of xbox's new CASUAL vision...so they got terminated. :(

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#50 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

No, we here at SW use GS reviews, or even Critics reviews from whereever you want. You saying they suck is wrong,they are good games. You not liking them is usually due to not liking the genre...do you have a PS3? Either way, he said those games weren't good at all, and he was Incorrect.

Zero5000X

But according to critics they aren't good.

Lol, okay. That's a good one.

hahahahaha.

Good one, seriously.

I guess good games are on the system of your choice only ,eh. lol.There are underated games on all the consoles, games that you would think SUCK, but are pretty cool, like Earthforce on 360, or WarioWare on Wii.