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9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper
I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
Nice work, but no one is going to accept this because you used IGN scores and you included multiplats.
The first game on the 360 list is a multiplat.
A decidedly awesome multiplat that has been confirmed as going to the PS3 later.
But, kudos for the work you put into everything.
i don't even care about the quality of the games. as long as my cell processor is happy running them then i am happy too.
dude, you could have used your time better than this, i'm sorry but no one cares honestly, i just game to have fun and people who get so caught up in the statistics need a new hobby
9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the RipperI am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
NaveedLife
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
its a sad reality here on GS. but tis true....well the part about the multiplats at least. IGN scores are pretty well respected around here..Nice work, but no one is going to accept this because you used IGN scores and you included multiplats.
cloudff7tm
EDIT: sometimes. ok...well rarely at least.
u used ign scores? LOL at 9.3 for splinter cell conviction, i liked that game but will never respect ign again for that review, that game didnt score a 9 for any of the 5 categories but somehow got a 9.3 for overall score? LOL
PS3 excluisves are better.FantasyTwistedmass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the RipperI am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
slvrraven9
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
PC+360 games are considered beneficial for that systems LIBRARY but they are never exclusives.[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise...... GS score is higher, therefore on these forums U2 wins.
[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the RipperI am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
gamebreakerz__
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
PC+360 games are considered beneficial for that systems LIBRARY but they are never exclusives.you see this is exactly what im talking about... lets try to understand here. STRICTLY speaking...not generaly speaking because then i would have to include the PC since it would then include a broader audience, but in this case for people who only own the 360 or ps3 this comparison is made up. yes they are truely multiplat games avalaible on the pc also but for this comparison, thats not an issue.
nevermind....i just realized im using logic and reason on system wars. what was i thinking....
[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......gamebreakerz__GS score is higher, therefore on these forums U2 wins.
That's how it works. So that means MGS4 and GTA 4 are better than most games this gen. Ewwwwwwww
[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise...... you mean mass effect 2 which is also on the ps3? not making it a console exclusive anymore. yeah he does't need to prove it to you
[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.gamebreakerz__mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise...... GS score is higher, therefore on these forums U2 wins. im still not convinced its a better game. this sites higher, that site is higher...blah blah blah....comvince me its a better game. btw im really not into this kinda stuff im merely using this as an example. subjective reasoning = fail. now if he said ps3 exclusives are genreally higher rated then i cant really dispute that.
[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.Chris_Williamsmass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise...... you mean mass effect 2 which is also on the ps3? not making it a console exclusive anymore. yeah he does't need to prove it to you yeah im sorry, i didnt see it at the store today when i went. i know the situation with the ps3 version of M.E.2 and i also dont need your help in this discussion. perhaps you shouldve waited for my follow up statement before you just jump both feet in since im merely making a point that taste is subjective. please read my previous post to gamebreakerz
Why didnt you just use GS's spreadsheet?ferret-gamerDidn't see it.....still don't see it....just see the box to type in with and a drop down in the upper right for something called "text clips"....is that it? Other than that, just see the Reset, Preview, Check Spelling, and Submit buttons.
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the RipperI am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
slvrraven9
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.
Thanks man. I didn't realize Mass Effect 2 was going to be released on the PS3, that's great! But I still think it should be considered a 360 exclusive (in terms of this 360 vs PS3 thread) until it's out and available for PS3 folks to play, which looks like January.The first game on the 360 list is a multiplat.
A decidedly awesome multiplat that has been confirmed as going to the PS3 later.
But, kudos for the work you put into everything.
Kickinurass
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Why didnt you just use GS's spreadsheet?redbird19Didn't see it.....still don't see it....just see the box to type in with and a drop down in the upper right for something called "text clips"....is that it? Other than that, just see the Reset, Preview, Check Spelling, and Submit buttons.
it's in the stickied system wars information thread here.
[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the RipperI am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
NaveedLife
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.
Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.Chris_Williamsmass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise...... you mean mass effect 2 which is also on the ps3? not making it a console exclusive anymore. yeah he does't need to prove it to you It´s not yet on the PS3 though.
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"][QUOTE="slvrraven9"]
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
redbird19
True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.
Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years. They all play a lot of the same games... :roll: That's ground enough for the PC to be included into PS3/360 discussion.[QUOTE="NaveedLife"][QUOTE="slvrraven9"]
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
redbird19
True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.
Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.this is system wars...not console wars.
[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the RipperI am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.
NaveedLife
ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..
True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.
yeah i know what you mean and like i said before, i agree, they are definatly not exclusives. but when comparing one system to another for people who only look at the ps3 and 360 its a matter of which game can be found where. and thats what the point of the list that the tc created is for im assuming.
[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise...... That's not an exclusive :P
[QUOTE="redbird19"] Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.DragonfireXZ95They all play a lot of the same games... :roll: That's ground enough for the PC to be included into PS3/360 discussion. :roll: Sorry, I'm not following that logic....if it's a PS3/360 discussion, the PC is not in the discussion. Otherwise it would be a 360 vs PS3 vs PC discussion. If someone posts a question asking, "Which version is better, the 360 version of Bioshock, or the PS3 version of Bioshock?" I imagine they'd be quite annoyed if someone responded saying, "Don't forget about the PC version, it's the best." Why should that person care about the PC version? It obviously has nothing to do with what they were wanting to discuss, and the PC gamer who responded has to know that. 123 456
..and a mute point but Oblivion and Bioshock are supposedly better ports on ps3. Atleast according to various sites. But the games although great are a bit old to really care about :)AntanticsThink you meant "moot" :P....but I haven't seen any reviews ranking Oblivion or Bioshock higher on the PS3 than the 360. Some have em equal, but most (IGN, Gamespot) favor the 360 version of Oblivion and (IGN, 1Up) favor 360 version of Bioshock. Either way, it doesn't matter if they're old, the point is that there's a pattern of PS3 folks getting the inferior version of the game (fyi, to identify a pattern you need to look back at older games). And if you want to talk about more recent games, what about Bayonetta? That's a game released in 2010 that's much much better on the 360. Now look at the flip side, how many games can you identify that were better on the PS3 than the 360? The only ones I found were old sports games where the latest editions are equal on both systems, Unreal Tournament III (because the 360 version lacks user-created content), Eternal Sonata (which Gamespot scored equal), and Star Ocean (which Gamespot also scored equal). If you want to argue that PS3 exclusives are so much better than 360's exclusives that they're worth settling for the inferior version of other great multiplat games, fine. I don't agree with it but at least it's a legit argument to make. But I don't see how you can dismiss the pattern and pretend it's not there.
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