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#1 redbird19
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So here's the deal, I had A LOT of downtime at work recently, and with me being bored out of my mind, I decided to compare the consoles. But, I'm only doing the comparing where it counts, meaning GAMES. So I compiled a list of exclusive games for the PS3, a list of exclusive games for the 360, and a list of games common to both systems where the game is markedly better on one system vs the other. Note, these lists are based on IGN ratings where the game rated an 8 or better on either system. The ONLY reason IGN ratings are used is because their site makes it easy to see how they scored a game across multiple systems. The ONLY reason games rated 8 or better are included is because the list would grow exponentially if lower ratings were included. * = This particular edition of a game is only available on 1 system, but franchise isn't exclusive ** = Game is only available on 1 system, but mainly due to the timing of the PS3's release, not because of exclusivity deal PS3 Exclusives ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 9.5 LittleBigPlanet 9.5 Resistance 2 9.5 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 9.4 Killzone 2 9.4 Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction 9.4 Demon's Souls 9.3 Ninja Gaiden Sigma** (Xbox game remix) 9.3 God of War III 9.2 Infamous 9.1 Resistance: Fall of Man 9.1 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 9.0 Buzz! Quiz World 9.0 Heavy Rain 9.0 Folklore 9.0 Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time 9.0 Valkyria Chronicles 9.0 ModNation Racers 8.9 MLB '10: The Show 8.9 MotorStorm 8.9 Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds 8.9 Buzz! Quiz TV 8.8 Warhawk 8.7 MLB '08: The Show 8.7 MLB '09: The Show 8.5 SingStar 8.5 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 8.5 Yakuza 3 8.5 3D Dot Game Heroes 8.4 Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm* 8.3 MotorStorm: Pacific Rift 8.2 Ridge Racer 7* 8.0 The Eye of Judgment 8.0 Time Crisis 4 8.0 EyePet: Your Virtual Pet 360 Exclusives ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 9.6 Mass Effect 2 9.5 Halo: Reach 9.5 Halo 3 9.5 Gears of War 2 9.4 Mass Effect 9.4 Gears of War 9.4 Forza Motorsport 3 9.3 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction 9.2 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter** (on Ps2, but horrible) 9.0 Dead or Alive 4 9.0 Call of Duty 2* 9.0 Alan Wake 9.0 Prey 9.0 Halo 3: ODST 9.0 Left 4 Dead 9.0 Left 4 Dead 2 8.9 Forza Motorsport 2 8.8 Fable II 8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3 8.7 Condemned: Criminal Origins* 8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe 8.7 NHL 07** 8.7 Bully: Scholarship Edition** 8.5 Viva Pinata 8.5 Battlestations: Midway** 8.5 FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage 8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise 8.5 Fable III 8.4 Perfect Dark Zero 8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power 8.4 MotoGP '06 8.4 2006 Fifa World Cup** 8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja* 8.4 Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy** 8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 8.4 Halo Wars 8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts 8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland** 8.3 Dead Rising 8.3 Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007** 8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator* 8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond* 8.3 Supreme Commander 2 8.2 Tropico 3 8.2 Lost Odyssey 8.2 Tomb Raider: Legend** 8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth 8.2 Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars 8.2 Tales of Vesperia 8.1 Quake 4* 8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4 8.0 Peter Jackson's King Kong** 8.0 Need for Speed Most Wanted** 8.0 Test Drive Unlimited** 8.0 Crackdown 8.0 Hitman: Blood Money** 8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper Notable head to head games where 1 system is preferable (360 Wins 30 to 5): ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 9.7 to 9.4 - 360 Wins - Bioshock 9.6 to 9.4 - 360 Wins - Fallout 3 9.3 to 9.2 - 360 Wins - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 9.0 to 8.5 - PS3 Wins - Unreal Tournament III 9.0 to 8.8 - 360 Wins - Virtua Fighter 5 9.0 to 8.8 - 360 Wins - Skate 9.3 to 8.7 - 360 Wins - Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 8.4 to 8.2 - 360 Wins - Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 8.7 to 8.3 - PS3 Wins - Eternal Sonata 8.9 to 8.6 - 360 Wins - NHL 2K7*** 8.9 to 8.6 - 360 Wins - NHL 08*** 8.5 to 8.3 - PS3 Wins - NBA 2K7*** 8.5 to 8.0 - PS3 Wins - Star Ocean: The Last Hope 9.5 to 8.4 - 360 Wins - The Orange Box 8.5 to 8.3 - 360 Wins - Fight Night Round 3 8.5 to 8.3 - 360 Wins - Madden 07*** 8.3 to 8.2 - PS3 Wins - College Hoops 2K7*** 8.5 to 8.3 - 360 Wins - Tiger Woods 07*** 9.1 to 8.3 - 360 Wins - Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 9.5 to 8.2 - 360 Wins - Bayonetta 9.1 to 8.1 - 360 Wins - F.E.A.R 8.3 to 8.0 - 360 Wins - The Bigs 8.5 to 8.0 - 360 Wins - NHL 2K8*** 8.2 to 8.0 - 360 Wins - College Hoops 2K8*** 9.0 to 7.9 - 360 Wins - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent 8.2 to 7.9 - 360 Wins - Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 8.2 to 7.9 - 360 Wins - Need for Speed Carbon 8.8 to 7.8 - 360 WIns - Call of Duty 3 8.3 to 7.8 - 360 Wins - NCAA Football 08*** 8.0 to 7.8 - 360 Wins - Armored Core for Answer 8.7 to 7.7 - 360 Wins - Madden 08*** 8.5 to 5.5 - 360 Wins - Lost Planet: Extreme Condition 8.0 to 7.3 - 360 Wins - Virtua Tennis 3 8.0 to 7.0 - 360 Wins - Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII 8.7 to 8.4 - 360 Wins - Ninja Gaiden II - Not really the same game, but close enough *** = Game which may or may not be discounted because it was an early port or where the lastest edition (e.g. NHL 11, NBA2K11, Madden 11, etc.) has identical scores for both systems. So what's the verdict? Well, the vast majority of games (probably something like 85%) are available for both systems and share an identical rating. So the games in the lists above are really the only means to find meaningful differences between the two systems. Looking at the last list first, the 360 seems to have the edge in common games. A lot of these games may be discounted because they may be considered old now (i.e. sports games like Madden, NBA2K-, NHL2K-, etc.) but may still serve as a trend-line or some kind of indicator as to which system is likely to have the better version of the game. Discounting those games brings the score to 22 to 3 in favor of the 360. Some of that discrepency (but certainly not all) can be explained away as growing pains for the PS3 where the games were early ports to the system before developers really learned how to work with it. But there are some pretty clear examples where the game was just much much better on the 360 (e.g. Bioshock, The Orange Box, Bayonetta, F.E.A.R, Lost Planet, Splinter Cell: DA, etc.). So given all that, I think it's fair to say that the better version of a given game, if there is one, is almost always the 360 version, keeping in mind that for most games there is no significant difference. Comparing the exclusive games for each system is more of a subjective matter because there's no real way to compare them. Do you like the Metal Gear Solid franchise or the Gears of War franchise? Halo or Resistance? Forza Motorsport or Gran Turismo? Mass Effect or Uncharted? Alan Wake or Heavy Rain? The only thing one can objectively say when looking at these lists is that the PS3 has a slight edge (17-14) in terms of the number of highly rated exclusive games (meaning games rated a 9 or better). Bottom line for me, a happy 360 owner, is that I would love to play the Uncharted games, Metal Gear Solid 4, or God of War III. And if it just meant I'd have to give up Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Halo, I'd consider it (since all are great games, it's a coinflip in my opinion). But, if it also means I'd have to settle for the inferior version of several other great games, then I don't think it's worth it. It's really that final point that I think makes the 360 the clear winner at this point in time. For whatever reason, PS3 gamers seem to always get stuck with the "bad" version of the game. Even fairly recent games like Bayonetta suffer from framerate issues, long load times, and washed-out colors that only affect the PS3 version of the game. It's not a problem with the PS3 hardware, as other games have shown what it's capable of. But still, it is a problem.
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#2 NaveedLife
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9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

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#3 cloudff7tm
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Nice work, but no one is going to accept this because you used IGN scores and you included multiplats.

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#4 Kickinurass
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The first game on the 360 list is a multiplat.

A decidedly awesome multiplat that has been confirmed as going to the PS3 later.

But, kudos for the work you put into everything.

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#5 hexashadow13
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You could just use the spreadsheet.
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#6 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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i don't even care about the quality of the games. as long as my cell processor is happy running them then i am happy too.

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#7 FantasyTwisted
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PS3 excluisves are better.
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Why didnt you just use GS's spreadsheet?
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#9 tomarlyn
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Great effort
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#10 Chris_Williams
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dude, you could have used your time better than this, i'm sorry but no one cares honestly, i just game to have fun and people who get so caught up in the statistics need a new hobby

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#11 Keiji993
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The 360 "exclusives" are made up of alot of multiplats and games that would be on the ps3 if it came out earlier.
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#13 SilverChimera
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You're just gonna get "lol IGN" responses for all that effort.
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#14 gamebreakerz__
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A decent first post, but you could have used the GS spreadsheet and some games up there in the exclusive catorgory are multiplat. Plus IGN scores are irrelevant on these forums. Waste of time IMO.
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9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

NaveedLife

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

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#16 slvrraven9
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Nice work, but no one is going to accept this because you used IGN scores and you included multiplats.

cloudff7tm

its a sad reality here on GS. but tis true....well the part about the multiplats at least. IGN scores are pretty well respected around here..

EDIT: sometimes. ok...well rarely at least.

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#17 right4dead
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u used ign scores? LOL at 9.3 for splinter cell conviction, i liked that game but will never respect ign again for that review, that game didnt score a 9 for any of the 5 categories but somehow got a 9.3 for overall score? LOL

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PS3 excluisves are better.FantasyTwisted
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

slvrraven9

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

PC+360 games are considered beneficial for that systems LIBRARY but they are never exclusives.

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#20 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

GS score is higher, therefore on these forums U2 wins.
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#21 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

gamebreakerz__

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

PC+360 games are considered beneficial for that systems LIBRARY but they are never exclusives.

you see this is exactly what im talking about... lets try to understand here. STRICTLY speaking...not generaly speaking because then i would have to include the PC since it would then include a broader audience, but in this case for people who only own the 360 or ps3 this comparison is made up. yes they are truely multiplat games avalaible on the pc also but for this comparison, thats not an issue.

nevermind....i just realized im using logic and reason on system wars. what was i thinking....

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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......gamebreakerz__
GS score is higher, therefore on these forums U2 wins.

That's how it works. So that means MGS4 and GTA 4 are better than most games this gen. Ewwwwwwww

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#23 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

you mean mass effect 2 which is also on the ps3? not making it a console exclusive anymore. yeah he does't need to prove it to you
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.gamebreakerz__
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

GS score is higher, therefore on these forums U2 wins.

im still not convinced its a better game. this sites higher, that site is higher...blah blah blah....comvince me its a better game. btw im really not into this kinda stuff im merely using this as an example. subjective reasoning = fail. now if he said ps3 exclusives are genreally higher rated then i cant really dispute that.
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Why didnt you just use GS's spreadsheet?ferret-gamer

where do you find these?

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#26 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.Chris_Williams
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

you mean mass effect 2 which is also on the ps3? not making it a console exclusive anymore. yeah he does't need to prove it to you

yeah im sorry, i didnt see it at the store today when i went. i know the situation with the ps3 version of M.E.2 and i also dont need your help in this discussion. perhaps you shouldve waited for my follow up statement before you just jump both feet in since im merely making a point that taste is subjective. please read my previous post to gamebreakerz
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#27 redbird19
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Why didnt you just use GS's spreadsheet?ferret-gamer
Didn't see it.....still don't see it....just see the box to type in with and a drop down in the upper right for something called "text clips"....is that it? Other than that, just see the Reset, Preview, Check Spelling, and Submit buttons.
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#28 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

slvrraven9

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.

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Where is PGR4?

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#30 redbird19
Member since 2010 • 29 Posts

The first game on the 360 list is a multiplat.

A decidedly awesome multiplat that has been confirmed as going to the PS3 later.

But, kudos for the work you put into everything.

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Thanks man. I didn't realize Mass Effect 2 was going to be released on the PS3, that's great! But I still think it should be considered a 360 exclusive (in terms of this 360 vs PS3 thread) until it's out and available for PS3 folks to play, which looks like January.
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#31 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Why didnt you just use GS's spreadsheet?redbird19
Didn't see it.....still don't see it....just see the box to type in with and a drop down in the upper right for something called "text clips"....is that it? Other than that, just see the Reset, Preview, Check Spelling, and Submit buttons.

it's in the stickied system wars information thread here.

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#33 redbird19
Member since 2010 • 29 Posts

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

NaveedLife

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.

Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.
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#34 redbird19
Member since 2010 • 29 Posts

Where is PGR4?

Nintendo_Man
It's there. IGN gave it an 8.1.
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#35 Arach666
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.Chris_Williams
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

you mean mass effect 2 which is also on the ps3? not making it a console exclusive anymore. yeah he does't need to prove it to you

It´s not yet on the PS3 though.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

redbird19

True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.

Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.

They all play a lot of the same games... :roll: That's ground enough for the PC to be included into PS3/360 discussion.
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#37 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

redbird19

True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.

Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.

this is system wars...not console wars.

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#39 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

9.5 Halo: Reach
9.5 Halo 3
9.5 Gears of War 2
9.4 Forza Motorsport 3
9.0 Dead or Alive 4
9.0 Alan Wake
9.0 Halo 3: ODST
8.9 Forza Motorsport 2
8.8 Fable II
8.8 Project Gotham Racing 3
8.7 Dance Dance Revolution Universe
8.5 Viva Pinata
8.5 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
8.4 Perfect Dark Zero
8.4 Kameo: Elements of Power
8.4 MotoGP '06
8.4 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja*
8.4 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
8.4 Halo Wars
8.3 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
8.3 Tony Hawk's American Wasteland**
8.3 Dead Rising
8.3 Far Cry Instincts Predator*
8.3 Naruto: The Broken Bond*
8.2 Lost Odyssey
8.2 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth
8.2 Tales of Vesperia
8.1 Project Gotham Racing 4
8.0 Crackdown
8.0 Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper

I am sure I missed some here, but when you get down to it, the 360's "exclusives" are actually a list like this. So many of their exclusives are on PC with more content, better graphics, better controls, and more. Also many are as you noted, timed exclusives. The 360's exclusive list is just not that good with these things in mind.

NaveedLife

ah but of course, the good old: "its on the PC also so its not actually an exclusive." comparing system to system like he has yes they are exclusive as they are not available on the ps3. lets just try and step out of our confort zones for just a second here and have a conversation without the cow or lem actually speaking for you all..

True he is comparing the two, but its not really fair to rule out another system that is just as much on the market as any other. Oh just ignore the PC, it will make my argument better (in 360's favor). You cannot just throw out facts when you feel appropriate :P. And yes if it is on PC and another system it is NOT exclusive. People act like PC is less of a system for some odd reason.

yeah i know what you mean and like i said before, i agree, they are definatly not exclusives. but when comparing one system to another for people who only look at the ps3 and 360 its a matter of which game can be found where. and thats what the point of the list that the tc created is for im assuming.

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I can't believe LBP scored so high, the platforming is subpar at best. I have the game on my shelves collecting dust, I never understood the appeal of that game.

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#41 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

That's not an exclusive :P
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#42 redbird19
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[QUOTE="redbird19"] Hi, I wasn't ignoring the PC to favor the 360, it's just that the PC is a whole different animal, and I don't really see it as being in competition with the PS3 or 360. A gaming PC with all the bells and whistles is tough to beat but can also be very expensive, and (at least when I was into PC gaming years back) required regular upgrading of hardware to stay on the cutting edge, which only made things more expensive. If you can afford that, great, but I just don't think it's fair to discuss it alongside the 360 or PS3, which can be had for around $300 or less, and whose hardware will not change over the next 8-10 years.DragonfireXZ95
They all play a lot of the same games... :roll: That's ground enough for the PC to be included into PS3/360 discussion.

:roll: Sorry, I'm not following that logic....if it's a PS3/360 discussion, the PC is not in the discussion. Otherwise it would be a 360 vs PS3 vs PC discussion. If someone posts a question asking, "Which version is better, the 360 version of Bioshock, or the PS3 version of Bioshock?" I imagine they'd be quite annoyed if someone responded saying, "Don't forget about the PC version, it's the best." Why should that person care about the PC version? It obviously has nothing to do with what they were wanting to discuss, and the PC gamer who responded has to know that.

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#43 Antantics
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[QUOTE="FantasyTwisted"]PS3 excluisves are better.slvrraven9
mass effect 2 is better than uncharted 2. comvince me otherwise......

They are both fantastic. But its not a xbox exclusive. Hi January
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#44 Antantics
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..and a mute point but Oblivion and Bioshock are supposedly better ports on ps3. Atleast according to various sites. But the games although great are a bit old to really care about :)
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#45 PAL360
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360 clearly wins. Well, Sony fanboys hate facts and numbers since they never help their cause. They prefer something more vague like "PS3 has better exclusives" or "360 only has shooters" :P

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#46 redbird19
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..and a mute point but Oblivion and Bioshock are supposedly better ports on ps3. Atleast according to various sites. But the games although great are a bit old to really care about :)Antantics
Think you meant "moot" :P....but I haven't seen any reviews ranking Oblivion or Bioshock higher on the PS3 than the 360. Some have em equal, but most (IGN, Gamespot) favor the 360 version of Oblivion and (IGN, 1Up) favor 360 version of Bioshock. Either way, it doesn't matter if they're old, the point is that there's a pattern of PS3 folks getting the inferior version of the game (fyi, to identify a pattern you need to look back at older games). And if you want to talk about more recent games, what about Bayonetta? That's a game released in 2010 that's much much better on the 360. Now look at the flip side, how many games can you identify that were better on the PS3 than the 360? The only ones I found were old sports games where the latest editions are equal on both systems, Unreal Tournament III (because the 360 version lacks user-created content), Eternal Sonata (which Gamespot scored equal), and Star Ocean (which Gamespot also scored equal). If you want to argue that PS3 exclusives are so much better than 360's exclusives that they're worth settling for the inferior version of other great multiplat games, fine. I don't agree with it but at least it's a legit argument to make. But I don't see how you can dismiss the pattern and pretend it's not there.