wow...wow... talk about contradicting yourself for a quick bucknickmag
Microsoft never said they were against BluRay. Like I said, Peter Moore said last year that they'd support BluRay if the market supported it. Well, now the market supports it.
MS already went on record back in the day that they will make an add on blueray player if the format takes off. They did the same thing for hddvd. They want to ensure the 360 is the most diverse console and by being able to play all 3 dvd formats is by far a better reason to own one than choose sides. Hybrid players will be out soon and be cheaper than buying a ps3 yet the idea of a $200 blueray player add-on for 360 along with the $200 hddvd player add-on gives the consumer who already has a 360 a better opportunity to embrace high def video format of choice. Sony, you lose for forcing it on the consumer instead of an option.
[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]If it wins? Blu Ray already won.tango90101
keep dreaming...:lol:
 It already did microsoft knows it too that why they planning to support it..and that will only help ps3 sales as well..because if blue ray becomes cheapp sony can finally do a price drop on the ps3..and that will lead to more sales..
Um. Ok, whatever. Great, it will have an external Blu-Ray player. Fantastic. Supposedly around the same time that's released the PS3 might have games? Possibly?
Lemmings are just upset that MS wants to hop on the Sony Blu-Ray bandwagon since they could not defeat the format using HD-DVD. Btw, if MS released a Blu-Ray add-on, I'm sure folks would rather buy a a PS3 than buy a 360 and another piece of hardware just to play movies. It's all about convenience in my book.
Lemmings are just upset that MS wants to hop on the Sony Blu-Ray bandwagon since they could not defeat the format using HD-DVD. Btw, if MS released a Blu-Ray add-on, I'm sure folks would rather buy a a PS3 than buy a 360 and another piece of hardware just to play movies. It's all about convenience in my book.DaddyDC650
Incorrect analysis; Sony is the one ties to a format, not MS. Sony needs the blu-ray that is why the built their trojan horse (PS3). MS is not tied in and can offer the consumer choices. Its all about choices in the consumers book. Nice try though.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Lemmings are just upset that MS wants to hop on the Sony Blu-Ray bandwagon since they could not defeat the format using HD-DVD. Btw, if MS released a Blu-Ray add-on, I'm sure folks would rather buy a a PS3 than buy a 360 and another piece of hardware just to play movies. It's all about convenience in my book.dhjohns
Incorrect analysis; Sony is the one ties to a format, not MS. Sony needs the blu-ray that is why the built their trojan horse (PS3). MS is not tied in and can offer the consumer choices. Its all about choices in the consumers book. Nice try though. What choices are you talking about? LoL! The PS3 plays both DVD's and Blu-Ray discs. HD-DVD is practically dead. One last thing, who in their right mind would want to buy a game system (360) and a Blu-Ray player add-on when they could just buy a PS3 which is both? I'll tell you who, not many.
I love how Sony made video games more about Movies Sorry Cows Blueray was made to sell you movies and saves sonys A$$. It will have no impact on games.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="Ps3Solider"]i wonder if microsoft will be paying sony royalty fees if and when they do adopt the technology.. what do u guys think?chicagog19
Sony already pays MS royalty fees for using VC-1 for BluRay movies. agreed hahaha whats that???? and then u agree!! ha ha ha ha
I think he is just making a point that the Xbox is more flexable then Ps3. And that MS isn't going to force you to buy an format that isn't needed for games just to save there A$$
I think he is just making a point that the Xbox is more flexable then Ps3. And that MS isn't going to force you to buy an format that isn't needed for games just to save there A$$ If the 360 is suppose to only be about the "games", why bother releasing an add-on Blu-Ray player? Makes you think does it not? My own personal opinion as to why MSÂ is releasing a Blu-Ray add-on is because there's folks out there that would love to have a game system that plays HD movies. Ask yourself, why would you rather pay 400 bucks plus tax and then another 200+ dollars on an add-on HD movie player if you could just buy a PS3 that does both?
[QUOTE="Ps3Solider"]i wonder if microsoft will be paying sony royalty fees if and when they do adopt the technology.. what do u guys think?magus-21
Sony already pays MS royalty fees for using VC-1 for BluRay movies. Not quite. Movie studios choose the method of encoding and have to pay for the usage fees. Sony's movie studios have used either MPEG-2 or AVC on all of their releases to date. Warner has used VC-1 on some of their Bluray releases.
I think he is just making a point that the Xbox is more flexable then Ps3. And that MS isn't going to force you to buy an format that isn't needed for games just to save there A$$ If the 360 is suppose to only be about the "games", why bother releasing an add-on Blu-Ray player? Makes you think does it not? Again the word Add-on as in your choice to buy or not. the core of the 360 system is Games!!! if you want it to do more the option is yours. We all know the extra $200 for PS3 isn't for the graphics or tility controller. just look at the multiptaform games you see an extra $200 difference there? Nope. Blueray was put there to save the rest of Sony's divisions even if it lessens there control over the game market. The whole of sony can not survive on the game division profits alone.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="Ps3Solider"]i wonder if microsoft will be paying sony royalty fees if and when they do adopt the technology.. what do u guys think?chicagog19
Sony already pays MS royalty fees for using VC-1 for BluRay movies. agreed so who pays the royalty fee's for .MP3 file's?
I think he is just making a point that the Xbox is more flexable then Ps3. And that MS isn't going to force you to buy an format that isn't needed for games just to save there A$$ If the 360 is suppose to only be about the "games", why bother releasing an add-on Blu-Ray player? Makes you think does it not? Again the word Add-on as in your choicec to buy or not. the core of the 360 system is Games!!! if you want it to do more the option is yours. My own personal opinion as to why MS is releasing a Blu-Ray add-on is because there's folks out there that would love to have a game system that plays HD movies. Ask yourself, why would you rather pay 400 bucks plus tax and then another 200+ dollars on an add-on HD movie player if you could just buy a PS3 that does both? Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have the ability to purchase a Blu-Ray add-on for current 360 owners but what about the folks who have yet to purchase a next-gen system? I'm sure the PS3 will look a lot more appealing. Don't you think?
[QUOTE="nickmag"]wow...wow... talk about contradicting yourself for a quick buckmagus-21
Microsoft never said they were against BluRay. Like I said, Peter Moore said last year that they'd support BluRay if the market supported it. Well, now the market supports it. The market is not even coming close to supporting Blu-Ray. Just because Blu-Ray is beating HD-DVD right now, does not mean the market supports it. 250k units of Blu-Ray movies sold is a smal pitence of the total DVD9 sales for movies. Blu-Ray has to beat DVD9 to become market supported. It could very well fail completely if digital distribution catches on.
[QUOTE="nickmag"]wow...wow... talk about contradicting yourself for a quick buckdhjohns
Umm wrong! Unlike Sony, MS is not tied to one format; that is why the external drive is so good. MS supports HD-DVD. Supposedly BR wins MS and other HDDVD backers will have to support BR.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="nickmag"]wow...wow... talk about contradicting yourself for a quick buckBgrngod
Microsoft never said they were against BluRay. Like I said, Peter Moore said last year that they'd support BluRay if the market supported it. Well, now the market supports it. The market is not even coming close to supporting Blu-Ray. Just because Blu-Ray is beating HD-DVD right now, does not mean the market supports it. 250k units of Blu-Ray movies sold is a smal pitence of the total DVD9 sales for movies. Blu-Ray has to beat DVD9 to become market supported. It could very well fail completely if digital distribution catches on. Bluray doesn't have to beat DVD to be market supported. DVD was market supported long before it beat VHS. Hell, the 360 isn't even outselling the PS2. Would you say the 360 isn't market supported?
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="nickmag"]wow...wow... talk about contradicting yourself for a quick buckBgrngod
Microsoft never said they were against BluRay. Like I said, Peter Moore said last year that they'd support BluRay if the market supported it. Well, now the market supports it. The market is not even coming close to supporting Blu-Ray. Just because Blu-Ray is beating HD-DVD right now, does not mean the market supports it. 250k units of Blu-Ray movies sold is a smal pitence of the total DVD9 sales for movies. Blu-Ray has to beat DVD9 to become market supported. It could very well fail completely if digital distribution catches on. And that matters why? DVD9 will be replaced by one of the Next-Gen formats - and it's definately looking like Blu-Ray will be that format. The phasing out/in of the old and new is just beginning. Over the next couple of years, especially with the PS3 on the market we'll see the new formats sales rising. DVD's will still be #1 in sales for quite sometime I bet, but the format is showing it's age somewhat - and come 2010 when a large percentage of people have HDTV's, DVD will be on the out. Some think we'll see more growth in the streaming/downloading of content. But really? Who wants that? I personally want physical, mobile media. Many places in the United States, mainly rural areas will still be lacking High Speed access for at least a few years to come. Being an oklahoman resident, I can definately attest to the lack of coverage - and it's even worse in the more central northern states.
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="nickmag"]wow...wow... talk about contradicting yourself for a quick buckramey70
Microsoft never said they were against BluRay. Like I said, Peter Moore said last year that they'd support BluRay if the market supported it. Well, now the market supports it. The market is not even coming close to supporting Blu-Ray. Just because Blu-Ray is beating HD-DVD right now, does not mean the market supports it. 250k units of Blu-Ray movies sold is a smal pitence of the total DVD9 sales for movies. Blu-Ray has to beat DVD9 to become market supported. It could very well fail completely if digital distribution catches on. Bluray doesn't have to beat DVD to be market supported. DVD was market supported long before it beat VHS. Hell, the 360 isn't even outselling the PS2. Would you say the 360 isn't market supported? I would absolutely say that yes the 360 is market supported. Out of all the consoles being sold right now, the 360 is doing really well. DVD takes up around 98% of the market right now. That means blu-ray and hd-dvd COMBINED take up only 2% of the market. That would clearly indicate that neither are market supported yet. Both HD formats only appeal to HD buyers. It is entirely possible that DVD could remain dominent until a better HD format comes along around the same time HDTV itself becomes the norm.
No they won't. Microsoft stated that they will stick to dvd, and compression.SuperMouse1986
That what I want my console maker saying. "we'll just stick to today's technology and compress the data as much as possibe to make it work. Why would we look into newer, better options?" How weak.
[QUOTE="SuperMouse1986"]No they won't. Microsoft stated that they will stick to dvd, and compression.dubvisions
That what I want my console maker saying. "we'll just stick to today's technology and compress the data as much as possibe to make it work. Why would we look into newer, better options?" How weak. Instead, let's force technology on people who really have no use for it! If they want to play the new games, they should HAVE to spend the extra money. We're far better judges of what's good for these people than they are. I mean hell, they bought one of our systems, how smart can they be? Mmmhmm. Definitely the angle I'D be supporting. -John
[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]If it wins? Blu Ray already won.jwcyclone15
keep dreaming...:lol:
I hate the PS3...and yes Blue-Ray is pwning HD-DVD in sales.
Blu-Ray spiked with the PS3's release, but from what I'm hearing, it's settling back down. Honestly, I don't really expect either one is going to be a long-term format; by the time people start needing an HD DVD format, something newer and better will have come out. -John
Lemmings are just upset that MS wants to hop on the Sony Blu-Ray bandwagon since they could not defeat the format using HD-DVD. Btw, if MS released a Blu-Ray add-on, I'm sure folks would rather buy a a PS3 than buy a 360 and another piece of hardware just to play movies. It's all about convenience in my book.DaddyDC650
If anything, sony would lose out on ps3 sales if ms released a $200 blueray player addon. It would make it that much more appealing for existing 360 owners to get the player for $200 than pay $500-$600+ for the ps3 to play the same movies. Plus with the already available hddvd player makes the 360 the ultimate multiformat entertainment system.
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