360's Successor To Be 10x More Powerful?

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Regarding Unreal Engine: "an Xbox 360 can handle 0.25 teraFLOPs. That means "Samaritan," which was the latest demonstration of Unreal Engine 3's capabilities, would require an Xbox 10 times more powerful than it is today. For Unreal 4, who knows what it'll take. But it suggests that the next console generation will be have to be as conspicuously more powerful in its processing capabilities as the 360 and PlayStation 3 are next to their predecessors." "Epic's vice president, Mark Rein, has told G4 that we can expect to see some sort of reveal this year. "People are going to be shocked later this year when they see Unreal Engine 4 and how much more profound an effect it will have," Rein told G4" http://kotaku.com/5884423/unreals-next-engine-will-need-a-console-at-least-ten-times-more-powerful-than-the-xbox-360 From ChubbyGuy40's thread: "The DICE summit is currently taking place as awards are being handed out and moments ago Mark Rein took the stage. While talking about Unreal Engine 4 he said that the graphics engine was running on "systems I can't talk about by name." This would obviously point to the next generation of consoles being pretty far into development." http://loudmouthedgamers.com/blog/2012/02/09/mark-rein-unreal-engine-4-running-on-systems-i-cant-talk-about-by-name/
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#2 MonsieurX
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Of raw power,maybe
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#3 arto1223
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Time will tell.

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#4 PAL360
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All i know is that this E3 will be simply amazing!

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#5 DrTrafalgarLaw
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It's going to ship with a series 5000 AMD GPU...so I doubt it.

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#6 tomarlyn
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Time will tell.

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This is the smoking gun. UE4 is going to need hardware vastly more powerful than the HD twins and UE4 is running on 'unannounced systems' so to speak.
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#7 balfe1990
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Which isn't all that powerful really...

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#8 KungfuKitten
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So that means slightly less pop-up, less slowdown and maybe actual 1080p? Not really impressed.

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#9 mitu123
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Probably near that at least, I hope for more so it doesn't suck for too long.

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#10 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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The 720 will be 1 times as powerful as the 720
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#11 ForsakenWicked
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Considering current gen console's hardware is pretty dated (as next gen's hardware will be once they're out), its not surprising at all.
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#12 LovePotionNo9
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Only 10x?
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#13 Strakha
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Considering current gen console's hardware is pretty dated (as next gen's hardware will be once they're out), its not surprising at all.ForsakenWicked
Your right but as usual many people will have to see to believe. 10 times more powerful does not mean 10 times better graphics but the next generation of consoles will be producing some very nice games and graphics. AI, physics and graphical prowess will all be beyond what we have seen before. Can't wait.
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#14 ReadingRainbow4
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10x more than 360? That's not exactly praise worthy.

so we can expect wii-u level.

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#16 WilliamRLBaker
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10x more than 360? That's not exactly praise worthy.

so we can expect wii-u level.

ReadingRainbow4
where do you get that from? if the wii u is purported to be at the same level or slighter more then the current gen systems then 10x more powerful than 360 would be much more powerful then Wii u...
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#17 ShadowMoses900
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Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

Only thing that can be said is that if MS wants to keep pushing Kinect next gen, they will have to make their system cheap so that group of people will buy it. And in order to do that they won't focus on power, otherwise it would make the system more expensive. That's why the Wii was so successfu.

But we will see what happens, I just hope MS doesn't forget about it's orgional Xbox fanbase next gen.

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#18 JigglyWiggly_
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I hope they go all out like the 360, 360 was very impressive when it came out... aside from their lead free solder.
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#19 tomarlyn
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10x more than 360? That's not exactly praise worthy.

so we can expect wii-u level.

ReadingRainbow4
I'm not praising, but its nice to think they might not be making only minor improvements. Wii U hasn't shown its a big leap ahead of the HD twins yet.
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#20 SPYDER0416
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The 720 will be 1 times as powerful as the 720darkspineslayer

Wow, they TOTALLy ripped off the PS4's specs :cool:

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#21 TheXFiles88
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Epic will be the driving force for the nextXbox once again same as what they did with the 360.

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So that means slightly less pop-up, less slowdown and maybe actual 1080p? Not really impressed.

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according to Nvidia a PC equipped with GTX 580 is 9x more powerful than PS360.
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#23 Spartan070
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Most likely will be but the power will manifest itself in more ways than just graphically, hopefully all games will move at 60 FPS unless in 3D
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Someone is dreaming out loud...

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#25 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

So that means slightly less pop-up, less slowdown and maybe actual 1080p? Not really impressed.

CwlHeddwyn

according to Nvidia a PC equipped with GTX 580 is 9x more powerful than PS360.

I think it needs to be 14x to allow for shoulder length hair and 18x for realistic eyes.

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Nope. Won't happen, watch.
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#27 W1NGMAN-
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Who cares? The 360 is currently capable of producing amazing looking games (Gears 3) but as long as MS continues to focus on Kinect and not on Exclusives that posters on this board are interested in playing the power of the new XBOX is irrelevant.

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#28 rilpas
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Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

Only thing that can be said is that if MS wants to keep pushing Kinect next gen, they will have to make their system cheap so that group of people will buy it. And in order to do that they won't focus on power, otherwise it would make the system more expensive. That's why the Wii was so successfu.

But we will see what happens, I just hope MS doesn't forget about it's orgional Xbox fanbase next gen.

ShadowMoses900

you mean the Wii-u right?

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/29074

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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]The 720 will be 1 times as powerful as the 720SPYDER0416

Wow, they TOTALLy ripped off the PS4's specs :cool:

: P But really, this could be anything, especially since he refers to "systems" in plural. If they drop the resolution and other effects, they might get it to work on consoles weaker than 10x current gen.
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Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

Only thing that can be said is that if MS wants to keep pushing Kinect next gen, they will have to make their system cheap so that group of people will buy it. And in order to do that they won't focus on power, otherwise it would make the system more expensive. That's why the Wii was so successfu.

But we will see what happens, I just hope MS doesn't forget about it's orgional Xbox fanbase next gen.

ShadowMoses900

20% ? No, that cant be right

I read a rumor that 720 will be based on a variation of 8086 CPUs and will have 16MB ram total, which is generations lower than 360

Why go higher when it is Kinect 2 system and for babie casual gamers that cant even talk yet

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

Only thing that can be said is that if MS wants to keep pushing Kinect next gen, they will have to make their system cheap so that group of people will buy it. And in order to do that they won't focus on power, otherwise it would make the system more expensive. That's why the Wii was so successfu.

But we will see what happens, I just hope MS doesn't forget about it's orgional Xbox fanbase next gen.

loosingENDS

20% ? No, that cant be right

I read a rumor that 720 will be based on a variation of 8086 CPUs and will have 16MB ram total, which is generations lower than 360

Why go higher when it is Kinect 2 system and for babie casual gamers that cant even talk yet

Rumors,you were the one angry about them last time
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#33 dommeus
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Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

ShadowMoses900

You cry BS, and then interject with BS. Finally, your round off with admitting it is BS.

What happened here?

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#34 layton2012
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Not that I'm against good hardware, but great graphics but only kinect games is not a great system, I will not pay more than 400 for a kinect box, and I want more than shooters and forza, give us a new banjo or kameo and I might buy an Xbox, as of right now I am getting a wii u next gen and maybe a ps4 but Xbox is not even on my radar next gen, as of right now I see Microsoft falling victim of the 3rd console curse and getting last place next gen, of course this is all my opinion.
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Regarding Unreal Engine: "an Xbox 360 can handle 0.25 teraFLOPs. That means "Samaritan," which was the latest demonstration of Unreal Engine 3's capabilities, would require an Xbox 10 times more powerful than it is today. For Unreal 4, who knows what it'll take. But it suggests that the next console generation will be have to be as conspicuously more powerful in its processing capabilities as the 360 and PlayStation 3 are next to their predecessors." "Epic's vice president, Mark Rein, has told G4 that we can expect to see some sort of reveal this year. "People are going to be shocked later this year when they see Unreal Engine 4 and how much more profound an effect it will have," Rein told G4" http://kotaku.com/5884423/unreals-next-engine-will-need-a-console-at-least-ten-times-more-powerful-than-the-xbox-360 From ChubbyGuy40's thread: "The DICE summit is currently taking place as awards are being handed out and moments ago Mark Rein took the stage. While talking about Unreal Engine 4 he said that the graphics engine was running on "systems I can't talk about by name." This would obviously point to the next generation of consoles being pretty far into development."

tomarlyn

On pure GFLOPs, Radeon HD 5870 can reach that goal e.g. 2.7 TFLOPs.

Radeon HD 5870's die size (334mm^2) is about the same as Geforce GTX 460's die size (367 mm^2)

20nm fab'ed 5870 would be 167mm^2 which is about same size as the current 5770/6770.

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#36 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

dommeus

You cry BS, and then interject with BS. Finally, your round off with admitting it is BS.

What happened here?

I posted BS speculation like everyone else here, I though I made it pretty obvious in that post?

We know nothing about these systems, so the only thing anyone can do is BS about them. I was just throwing my own BS out there. Anyone who doesn't admit this is lying, that's what everyone in this thread is doing.

Only thing I can say for certain is that the next Xbox will probably have Kinect involved or built in and it will probably haveBlu Ray. Beyond thateverything is far fetched.

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And the WiiU will be a gen and a half or even more powerful then it's predecessor.

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#38 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Thread of BS specualation is full of BS speculaion

Although apparently the next Xbox is using a processor that will make it only 20% more powerful than the 360. But that is also just speculaiton at this point.

ShadowMoses900

You cry BS, and then interject with BS. Finally, your round off with admitting it is BS.

What happened here?

I posted BS speculation like everyone else here, I though I made it pretty obvious in that post?

We know nothing about these systems, so the only thing anyone can do is BS about them. I was just throwing my own BS out there. Anyone who doesn't admit this is lying, that's what everyone in this thread is doing.

Only thing I can say for certain is that the next Xbox will probably have Kinect involved or built in and it will probably haveBlu Ray. Beyond thateverything is far fetched.

Thats right we know nothing so we make predictions based on the evidence we have. Taking the article and the quote then putting the two together is not BS.
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

So that means slightly less pop-up, less slowdown and maybe actual 1080p? Not really impressed.

CwlHeddwyn

according to Nvidia a PC equipped with GTX 580 is 9x more powerful than PS360.

Looks like my PC trashes them then around that power.

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#40 mike_on_mic
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Well 0.25 TFLOPS for the 360 not enough, so the PS3 Cell process provides 0.25 TFLOPS per SPE plus the 0.25 TFLOPS of the PPE does that mean it has 7 times the power of the 360. :)
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#41 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

10x more than 360? That's not exactly praise worthy.

so we can expect wii-u level.

WilliamRLBaker

where do you get that from? if the wii u is purported to be at the same level or slighter more then the current gen systems then 10x more powerful than 360 would be much more powerful then Wii u...

Someone failed math class.

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All i know is that this E3 will be simply amazing!

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#44 babycakin
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OMG this is literally a brain massage... I will lick the tears of Wii U fanboys now.Dy_WarriorsXoXo

what tears? none of the wii-u fanboys care when they don't even know the official specs of the wii-u

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#45 CanYouDiglt
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I suspect a announcement for the next xbox at E3 and a price drop to go along with it on the 360.

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[QUOTE="babycakin"]

[QUOTE="Dy_WarriorsXoXo"]OMG this is literally a brain massage... I will lick the tears of Wii U fanboys now.Dy_WarriorsXoXo

what tears? none of the wii-u fanboys care when they don't even know the official specs of the wii-u

They bragged about outdoing the 360... Paybacks a **** and a dish best served cold.

probrably a few rabid sheep but it was probrably just 360 haters all together. all just rumors anyways

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#48 kuraimen
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About time it catches up to the PS3
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#49 Plagueless
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About time it catches up to the PS3kuraimen
Man, If the PS3 is that powerful, why do multiplats like Skyrim run like garbage on it? not to mention getting the bad port of everything. Oh, and dont mention exclusives, because Gears 3 shows that the 360 is just as capable.
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#50 Another48hours
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About time it catches up to the PS3kuraimen
Odd I could have sworn that the PS3 has been proven to not be more powerful then anything.