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#1 slvrraven9
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PSP was popular for (around here) its insane amount of console to portable game rehashes, and of course its popular rpg collection but the latter isnt the issue.....looks like the 3DS is following in its footsteps! where is the originality? anyone? a second gamepad for a game weve played already on home consoles...yeah good job there ninty. way to make all the right moves. although im excited to see the doors this will open up i must say that im a little pessimistic about the 3DS already recieving a mod this early into its life cycle. anyone else feel like ninty just, hell i dunno...their decisions lately have left me to seriously consider their direction and purpose discuss..
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#2 JohnF111
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Its an add-on that will be supported by a handful of games, like the Wiimote+ it won't be used by every single game released by Nintendo or third party.
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#3 calvinsora
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I agree with JohnF, it's a peripheral to be supported by some games, it's just an early peripheral. Seeing how the upcoming library of games for the 3DS is very cool from my perspective, I don't see how the 3DS will become anything close to the PSP (though I really like that system, nothing wrong with remakes as long as they're fun :?).

And it's just a few months old, will people please give it time to shape up? The DS had an awful start, but it grew into my favorite handheld as its lifetime went on.

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#4 mmmwksil
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Aren't we feeling entitled?

Nintendo decides to try and push more sales of their latest handheld device with a revision, and people who bought the first edition feel cheated? By that reasoning, I hope you people don't buy new electronics at all, because new models and revisions appear ever so often :roll:

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#5 bbkkristian
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And the 3DS doom threads continue... :roll: It will do fine people! I really don't see anything wrong with releasing an add on for a device! Its like getting Wii Motion Plus or that rumored Xbox 360 Blu Ray drive! I see no difference! :x

EDITED ;)

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#6 funsohng
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I don't see why it's so bad. To me, SW just sees 3DS doomed from the start no matter what it does.
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#7 nameless12345
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No, Vita will be the successor to PSP.

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#8 bbkkristian
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To me, SW just sees 3DS doomed from the start no matter what it does.funsohng
This has been going on for months now. :P
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#9 calvinsora
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I don't see why it's so bad. To me, SW just sees 3DS doomed from the start no matter what it does.funsohng

I don't know why I'm surprised by this, to be honest. People love to hate on Nintendo on SW, it's like a law.

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#10 LovePotionNo9
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We have to see how far Pokemon sales push systems. Right now it's too early to say.

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#11 meetroid8
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How many ports are being released on the 3DS? 3? Doesn't seem like all that much to me.
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#12 zeldisco2009
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if 3DS is the new PSP then the Vita is the new PSP GO....

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for a system hardly 6 months old...thats a pretty big number which im sure will continue to climb. true its future is looking brighter but its definatly looking like remakes are going to be sprinkled here and there....possibly more, who knows. if they continue to sell well, im sure we will see many more of them. how about instead investing that time and energy on something new and original?
How many ports are being released on the 3DS? 3? Doesn't seem like all that much to me.meetroid8
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#14 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I agree with JohnF, it's a peripheral to be supported by some games, it's just an early peripheral. Seeing how the upcoming library of games for the 3DS is very cool from my perspective, I don't see how the 3DS will become anything close to the PSP (though I really like that system, nothing wrong with remakes as long as they're fun :?).

And it's just a few months old, will people please give it time to shape up? The DS had an awful start, but it grew into my favorite handheld as its lifetime went on.

yeah this is true but. man talk about awful starts....this is probably worse than the PS3's launch.
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#15 bbkkristian
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if 3DS is the new PSP then the Vita is the new PSP GO....

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I laughed (with you & in agreement) :P

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#16 calvinsora
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I agree with JohnF, it's a peripheral to be supported by some games, it's just an early peripheral. Seeing how the upcoming library of games for the 3DS is very cool from my perspective, I don't see how the 3DS will become anything close to the PSP (though I really like that system, nothing wrong with remakes as long as they're fun :?).

And it's just a few months old, will people please give it time to shape up? The DS had an awful start, but it grew into my favorite handheld as its lifetime went on.

slvrraven9

yeah this is true but. man talk about awful starts....this is probably worse than the PS3's launch.

Hm, that's arguable, but to be honest I find it better than the DS's launch. As much as I love that system now, I barely bought a game for it the first year.

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The only problem I see with the 3DS is that it was released too early and without a decent games library. They didn't give people a reason to upgrade their DSi's yet.

The 3DS still offers a unique gaming style whereas the PSP just emulated what a console did. Developers have come up with some really creative ways of creating DS games and, when they finally make the move to the 3DS, I think this will ensure the console's continuing success. The rproblem will be getting them to make the move. Why would you develop a game for the 3DS when a DS game is easier, cheaper and playable (sellable) to people with DS, DSi, AND 3ds systems? :)

Anyway yeah, I think time will prove that the 3DS is no PSP. It will be interesting to see how the Vita does. There's a lot of hype about it but there was a bunch of hype about the PSP too. I think Sony have learnt from their mistakes and we're already seeing a good software lineup. But I digress...

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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I don't see why it's so bad. To me, SW just sees 3DS doomed from the start no matter what it does.calvinsora

I don't know why I'm surprised by this, to be honest. People love to hate on Nintendo on SW, it's like a law.

I've felt cheated by nintendo ever since they released their Gamecube slim with stupid motion controller, wait, Nintendo Wii, I think that's what is called. That's why I hate nintendo and I hope the 3DS fails cause I had very high hopes for it and it was a complete letdown. Also I can't stand using the damn stylus
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I've felt cheated by nintendo ever since they released their Gamecube slim with stupid motion controller, wait, Nintendo Wii, I think that's what is called. That's why I hate nintendo and I hope the 3DS fails cause I had very high hopes for it and it was a complete letdown. Also I can't stand using the damn styluspiranha_inc
Well if you can't stand using a stylus why on Earth did you buy a 3DS?

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#20 bbkkristian
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I've felt cheated by nintendo ever since they released their Gamecube slim with stupid motion controller, wait, Nintendo Wii, I think that's what is called. That's why I hate nintendo and I hope the 3DS fails cause I had very high hopes for it and it was a complete letdown. Also I can't stand using the damn styluspiranha_inc

So you want the 3DS to fail just because it didn't meet your expectations. Thats really not justified. :|

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#21 blizzvalve
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the 3DS is going to be fine. Although the 2nd circle pad appears uncomfortable atm and a new revision seems likely, the current 3DS should do fine this holiday. the price dropped increased sales dramitically in Japan and sales are expected to improve on the NPD charts. Games like Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 will push sales, giving Nintendo a healthy userbase by the time the Vita comes out.

Plus, you guys should be happy that the 3DS is getting a 2nd analog stick and triggers. It opens up more gaming possibilities and also improves the camera controls for some games. Resisdent Evil Revelations and MGS3 will get decent shooting controls. Kid Icarus Uprising now allows left-handed players to enjoy the game. You'll be able to aim the flashlight in Luigi's Mansion 2. Smash Bros players will get their C-Stick. And Console ports will be playable now.

PS: the placement of the 2nd analog stick makes it likely that the 3DS can be used as a Wii U controller.

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#22 jonathant5
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And the 3DS doom threads continue... :roll: It will do fine people! I really don't see anything wrong with releasing an add on for a device! Its like getting Wii Motion Plus or that rumored Xbox 360 Blu Ray drive! I see no difference! :x

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How is it in anyway anything like the Wii Motion Plus or an X360 BD addon? For one M+ was not used in all games and was not needed for most games, but more importantly, it was an add on to a cheap (price wise) controller. On the other hand this is an add-on to a whole system, with rumors that the revised system will hvae 2 analogue sticks built in. As for the X360 BD Drive, again something that is not necesarry, but more importantly, it is coming out a full 6 years (if it does come out) after the launch of the X360 (as opposed to a bit more than 6 months after 3DS's launch) huge difference. Honestly I dont see why fanboys will defend their system/company to death even though it is clear that there are things wrong with it...
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#23 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

And the 3DS doom threads continue... :roll: It will do fine people! I really don't see anything wrong with releasing an add on for a device! Its like getting Wii Motion Plus or that rumored Xbox 360 Blu Ray drive! I see no difference! :x

EDITED ;)

jonathant5

How is it in anyway anything like the Wii Motion Plus or an X360 BD addon? For one M+ was not used in all games and was not needed for most games, but more importantly, it was an add on to a cheap (price wise) controller. On the other hand this is an add-on to a whole system, with rumors that the revised system will hvae 2 analogue sticks built in. As for the X360 BD Drive, again something that is not necesarry, but more importantly, it is coming out a full 6 years (if it does come out) after the launch of the X360 (as opposed to a bit more than 6 months after 3DS's launch) huge difference. Honestly I dont see why fanboys will defend their system/company to death even though it is clear that there are things wrong with it...

Ah, yes, I sure do love being called a fanboy :P You don't know me well enough to make that assumption.

Its called mistakes and improvements. The amount of time is not relevant, the 360 was bashed immensely for not having 1080P HD and Blu Ray. Yes its late, but its still an improvement. This is early and can allow more games to be made.

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#24 jonathant5
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[QUOTE="jonathant5"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

And the 3DS doom threads continue... :roll: It will do fine people! I really don't see anything wrong with releasing an add on for a device! Its like getting Wii Motion Plus or that rumored Xbox 360 Blu Ray drive! I see no difference! :x

EDITED ;)

bbkkristian

How is it in anyway anything like the Wii Motion Plus or an X360 BD addon? For one M+ was not used in all games and was not needed for most games, but more importantly, it was an add on to a cheap (price wise) controller. On the other hand this is an add-on to a whole system, with rumors that the revised system will hvae 2 analogue sticks built in. As for the X360 BD Drive, again something that is not necesarry, but more importantly, it is coming out a full 6 years (if it does come out) after the launch of the X360 (as opposed to a bit more than 6 months after 3DS's launch) huge difference. Honestly I dont see why fanboys will defend their system/company to death even though it is clear that there are things wrong with it...

Ah, yes, I sure do love being called a fanboy :P You don't know me well enough to make that assumption.

Its called mistakes and improvements. The amount of time is not relevant, the 360 was bashed immensely for not having 1080P HD and Blu Ray. Yes its late, but its still an improvement. This is early and can allow more games to be made.

I was not calling you a fanboy perse, simply generalizing how fanboys of any systems can defend their system and its faults to the death if though those faults are clear and quite severe (for example lemmings defending MS even though the RROD was so bad).
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To my knowledge PSV is the successor to the psp, as it is made by sony.

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#26 Chickan_117
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I was not calling you a fanboy perse, simply generalizing how fanboys of any systems can defend their system and its faults to the death if though those faults are clear and quite severe (for example lemmings defending MS even though the RROD was so bad). jonathant5
Tone for tone. When people post so strongly against a system it's logical that the response/counter argument will be equally as strong. For example, I have a 3DS and I really like it. It's only flaws I can think of are a poor exclusive library. Yet many of the posts here are written likethe system is an abomination and an affront to gaming as a whole! The system's not perfect but it's not a dog's breakfast either.

Ironically I think the main reason I'm so positive about mine is that I never owned a DS prior to this purchase. So I'm playing thru an amazing library of old DS games.

that second analogue stick is obviously a "whoops, we dun goofed" move by Nintendo but I kind of hope that devs choose not to over use the dual analogue stick input method. One of the key things I like about the system is it's unique interface and I think it would be a shame for them to conform and try to compete with console emulators like the Vita.

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[QUOTE="jonathant5"]I was not calling you a fanboy perse, simply generalizing how fanboys of any systems can defend their system and its faults to the death if though those faults are clear and quite severe (for example lemmings defending MS even though the RROD was so bad). Chickan_117

Tone for tone. When people post so strongly against a system it's logical that the response/counter argument will be equally as strong. For example, I have a 3DS and I really like it. It's only flaws I can think of are a poor exclusive library. Yet many of the posts here are written likethe system is an abomination and an affront to gaming as a whole! The system's not perfect but it's not a dog's breakfast either.

Ironically I think the main reason I'm so positive about mine is that I never owned a DS prior to this purchase. So I'm playing thru an amazing library of old DS games.

that second analogue stick is obviously a "whoops, we dun goofed" move by Nintendo but I kind of hope that devs choose not to over use the dual analogue stick input method. One of the key things I like about the system is it's unique interface and I think it would be a shame for them to conform and try to compete with console emulators like the Vita.

I said something of a similar nature on another thread, and got my head chewed off for it. People think that just because one handheld does it, the other has to as well to compete, especially with the growing trend of console ports (port here encompassing the games made similar to their console versions, such as Uncharted).

Each device has strengths and weaknesses, and people are jumping on the 3DS because it appears Vita will be able to handle what people expect to play on both devices due to the second analog stick.

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#28 thatisfalse
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the psp had great graphics, but for different reasons the support wasn't there. the Vita has great graphics and now they're doing everything possible to have incredible support. Nintendo is dealing with a different beast altogether now. Nintendo will surely have the games, but not the tech. Vita will have the games and tech. This gen, Sony will see a bit of its PS2 success return. let us be reality here, if there was no Vita around the corner, no one would be doubting the 3DS, even with the terrible glasses free 3d idea.
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]To me, SW just sees 3DS doomed from the start no matter what it does.bbkkristian
This has been going on for months now. :P

That's because there was a six month period where it was hyped as the savior of gaming.

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#30 slvrraven9
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if 3DS is the new PSP then the Vita is the new PSP GO....

zeldisco2009
how so?
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To my knowledge PSV is the successor to the psp, as it is made by sony.

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lol i dont think i mentioned it being the successor to thw psp but more like taking on the similarities of it in the fact that its taking on so many rehashes, whether its in 3d or not which of course they all most likely will be, otherwise its useless to rerelease it. its like you take a 5 dollar game (Ocarina of Time for instance) and add 3d and now this game is suddenly $40 worthy? no. i can see if its a double play MABEY. Ocarina and Majora and you might have a deal. i just cant respect that...
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#32 Wolfetan
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Aren't we feeling entitled?

Nintendo decides to try and push more sales of their latest handheld device with a revision, and people who bought the first edition feel cheated? By that reasoning, I hope you people don't buy new electronics at all, because new models and revisions appear ever so often :roll:

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Yes but not adding this significant of features. The second analog changes gameplay and everything. People who bought the first edition dont want a added on peripheral if they can have it built-in...

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#33 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Aren't we feeling entitled?

Nintendo decides to try and push more sales of their latest handheld device with a revision, and people who bought the first edition feel cheated? By that reasoning, I hope you people don't buy new electronics at all, because new models and revisions appear ever so often :roll:

Wolfetan

Yes but not adding this significant of features. The second analog changes gameplay and everything. People who bought the first edition dont want a added on peripheral if they can have it built-in...

Nintendo forced no one to buy their device on launch. Adding of features is as much a possibility as the probability of new versions.

I can complain and whine at Nintendo that my DS/DS Lite can't get on the DSi Shop, but they wouldn't care. It's the same concept here. You want the best? Wait for the last version.

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I really don't understand why people are going crazy over this add-on. People are looking deep into this.

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Each device has strengths and weaknesses, and people are jumping on the 3DS because it appears Vita will be able to handle what people expect to play on both devices due to the second analog stick.

mmmwksil

That's it right there. I don't know why a potential second analogue stick makess some people expect all future games will be a twin stick console emulation.

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A new day, another 3DS end of the world thread on SW. The PSP had games just didn't do well in the US while in Japan that's all they play is PSP and Monster Hunter. So yea the 3DS will be fine :)

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#37 zeldisco2009
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[QUOTE="zeldisco2009"]

if 3DS is the new PSP then the Vita is the new PSP GO....

slvrraven9

how so?

coz the Vita is a predictable failure and will be close to the Dreamcast and PSP GO in terms of commercial success.

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#38 Mario1331
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wouldnt thaat be the vita?

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I don't see why it's so bad. To me, SW just sees 3DS doomed from the start no matter what it does.funsohng
You can say that with Nintendo as a whole actually.
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#40 AmnesiaHaze
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3DS = the new DS

VITA = the new PSP

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Um, the Vita is the new PSP. In terms of design, philosophy and well, it's Sony? I really don't understand at all what the TC is getting at. All consoles, especially newer ones, get ports/remakes, etc. Hey, if anything the 3DS separates itself from the PSP because at least Nintendo had the interest in you as a consumer to add more buttons and another slider whereas Sony could've added a second stick to the PSP in 2007 with the slim.
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]PSP was popular for (around here) its insane amount of console to portable game rehashes, and of course its popular rpg collection but the latter isnt the issue.....looks like the 3DS is following in its footsteps! where is the originality? anyone? a second gamepad for a game weve played already on home consoles...yeah good job there ninty. way to make all the right moves. although im excited to see the doors this will open up i must say that im a little pessimistic about the 3DS already recieving a mod this early into its life cycle. anyone else feel like ninty just, hell i dunno...their decisions lately have left me to seriously consider their direction and purpose discuss..

Yeah, I'm having a lot of doubts regarding Nintendo's approach to it's various console products, services and business decisions in general. It's games for the most part I'm still pretty confident in, but that's about it and even some of those are looking a little worse for wear and underdeveloped in this current console realm.
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#43 squackthehag
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Not vouching for the 3DS anytime soon.. Weak hardware and materials. And they really screwed over the first customers.
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]PSP was popular for (around here) its insane amount of console to portable game rehashes, and of course its popular rpg collection but the latter isnt the issue.....looks like the 3DS is following in its footsteps! where is the originality? anyone? a second gamepad for a game weve played already on home consoles...yeah good job there ninty. way to make all the right moves. although im excited to see the doors this will open up i must say that im a little pessimistic about the 3DS already recieving a mod this early into its life cycle. anyone else feel like ninty just, hell i dunno...their decisions lately have left me to seriously consider their direction and purpose discuss..amaneuvering
Yeah, I'm having a lot of doubts regarding Nintendo's approach to it's various console products, services and business decisions in general. It's games for the most part I'm still pretty confident in, but that's about it and even some of those are looking a little worse for wear and underdeveloped in this current console realm.

theres nothing wrong with ninteno games...they are selling more and getting better scores then they did years ago. maybe your not interested in them and rather play what MS and Sony are offering

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[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="slvrraven9"]PSP was popular for (around here) its insane amount of console to portable game rehashes, and of course its popular rpg collection but the latter isnt the issue.....looks like the 3DS is following in its footsteps! where is the originality? anyone? a second gamepad for a game weve played already on home consoles...yeah good job there ninty. way to make all the right moves. although im excited to see the doors this will open up i must say that im a little pessimistic about the 3DS already recieving a mod this early into its life cycle. anyone else feel like ninty just, hell i dunno...their decisions lately have left me to seriously consider their direction and purpose discuss..Mario1331

Yeah, I'm having a lot of doubts regarding Nintendo's approach to it's various console products, services and business decisions in general. It's games for the most part I'm still pretty confident in, but that's about it and even some of those are looking a little worse for wear and underdeveloped in this current console realm.

theres nothing wrong with ninteno games...they are selling more and getting better scores then they did years ago. maybe your not interested in them and rather play what MS and Sony are offering

Dude, critic scores and how high a game sells mean nothing to gamers. Some critically good Sonic games get bashed as a result.
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I am pretty sure PSV is the new PSP, as 3DS is a Nintendo product.

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Not vouching for the 3DS anytime soon.. Weak hardware and materials. And they really screwed over the first customers. squackthehag
As a launch day buyer I'm happy. Free games, a great optional add on that otherwise will never be put into a redesign (it will never fit) Weak hardware? It's a thousand times more powerful than the only other handheld you could play nintendo games on before. 800Mhz-1Ghz Multi-Core CPU, 128MB RAM, 200Mhz GPU. Ain't weak to me.
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[QUOTE="squackthehag"]Not vouching for the 3DS anytime soon.. Weak hardware and materials. And they really screwed over the first customers. darth-pyschosis
As a launch day buyer I'm happy. Free games, a great optional add on that otherwise will never be put into a redesign (it will never fit) Weak hardware? It's a thousand times more powerful than the only other handheld you could play nintendo games on before. 800Mhz-1Ghz Multi-Core CPU, 128MB RAM, 200Mhz GPU. Ain't weak to me.

I'm sorry but the redesign likely WILL have dual analog control. The unit will be redesigned to accomodate the additions.

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#49 Ninja_Odin
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New PSP = Vita. PSP was a portstation. Vita is portstation HD. 3DS will at least get new and original games that won't be made on consoles. MH4 for example.
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#50 zeldisco2009
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New PSP = Vita. PSP was a portstation. Vita is portstation HD. 3DS will at least get new and original games that won't be made on consoles. MH4 for example.Ninja_Odin

Plus the Vita is just a disappointing multimedia device just like the PSP and not a gaming device like the DS or 3DS.