5 AAA's with online play is not worth $50's a year

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#1 Ciocio7
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Thats the amount of good games on each system, and thats how many games people buy for each of their systems...if your filthy rich, Xbox Live is good if not then no who agrees?
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#2 thegoldenpoo
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AAA=/= the only good games. L4D is a perfect example.
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#3 beast667
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Wait, theres only 5 good games on each system? Then I really need to thin out my collection...
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#4 Legendaryscmt
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Even by the money for Live logic, $50 a year is nothing, even in these bad economical times.
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#5 treedoor
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Yah, if you're filthy rich then you should be able to afford less than 10 cents a day to play Live.

Seriously, I find more money than that laying on the ground every day.

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#6 dylanmcc
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In Australia it's about $100 a year, and still, that's nothing. It's only once a year.
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#7 XaosII
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Even by the money for Live logic, $50 a year is nothing, even in these bad economical times.Legendaryscmt

Why pay more when comparable systems offer the same, or even more, for 0$?

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#8 sillaris
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[QUOTE="beast667"]Wait, theres only 5 good games on each system? Then I really need to thin out my collection...

u have bad taste in games
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#9 Emaldon117
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It beats paying double just for WoW
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#10 Kickinurass
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I can understand when people argue the principle that LIVE is not worth $50.

But, when people argue that LIVE is some type of financial burden - it's mind boggling.

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#11 treedoor
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]Even by the money for Live logic, $50 a year is nothing, even in these bad economical times.XaosII

Why pay more when comparable systems offer the same, or even more, for 0$?

Because the PSN doesn't offer more than Live.

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#12 HPPL3
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You mean 30 bucks a year. Pretty much everyone is selling it for 30 bucks for 12 +1 cards.
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#13 beast667
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[QUOTE="beast667"]Wait, theres only 5 good games on each system? Then I really need to thin out my collection...sillaris
u have bad taste in games

Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:
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#14 JuarN18
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Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:beast667
that's impossible!!:P
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[QUOTE="sillaris"][QUOTE="beast667"]Wait, theres only 5 good games on each system? Then I really need to thin out my collection...beast667
u have bad taste in games

Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:

No, a real gamer plays what he wants. I know people who played Too Human and loved it, hell, I know people who play a lot of sub 7 games and like them because they get a lot of points taken off for flaws, but people overlook them. However, a game like Gears of War 2, which doesn't have many flaws but has glaring ones like broken multiplayer, people hate.

Scores mean nothing. People just can't form their own opinions so they listen to some random nub who tells them what to like.

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#16 XaosII
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]Even by the money for Live logic, $50 a year is nothing, even in these bad economical times.treedoor

Why pay more when comparable systems offer the same, or even more, for 0$?

Because the PSN doesn't offer more than Live.

Cool.

I dont care about PSN.

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#17 Andrew_Xavier
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I don't even tend to like most AAA games, they tend to be boring generic FPS games with pretty shiny graphics....FPS games bore me to tears.
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[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="sillaris"] u have bad taste in gamesRobNBankz

Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:

No, a real gamer plays what he wants. I know people who played Too Human and loved it, hell, I know people who play a lot of sub 7 games and like them because they get a lot of points taken off for flaws, but people overlook them. However, a game like Gears of War 2, which doesn't have many flaws but has glaring ones like broken multiplayer, people hate.

Scores mean nothing. People just can't form their own opinions so they listen to some random nub who tells them what to like.

it is really saddening to see that, people basing their opinions on what one guys thinks.
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[QUOTE="sillaris"][QUOTE="beast667"]Wait, theres only 5 good games on each system? Then I really need to thin out my collection...beast667
u have bad taste in games

Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:

I'm enjoying a 6.5 game, Halo Wars alot also. Apparently reviews don't mean everything.
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#20 beast667
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[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="sillaris"] u have bad taste in gamesuser_nat
Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:

I'm enjoying a 6.5 game, Halo Wars alot also. Apparently reviews don't mean everything.

I wouldn't say that, but if you take them as the word of God you're gonna miss some fun games.
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#21 clone01
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AAA=/= the only good games. L4D is a perfect example.thegoldenpoo
exactly. i love L4D, and it only got AA.
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#22 The_Game21x
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Thats the amount of good games on each system, and thats how many games people buy for each of their systems...if your filthy rich, Xbox Live is good if not then no who agrees?Ciocio7

Correction:

That's the amount of AAA exclusive games each system has according to GameSpot and how many games some people buy for each of their systems.

I have close to 50 games for the Xbox 360 alone (not including Arcade games). To me, that $50 a year (actually around $40 or less, as I've never paid full price for a year of Live) is well worth it.

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#23 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="sillaris"] u have bad taste in gamesuser_nat
Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:

I'm enjoying a 6.5 game, Halo Wars alot also. Apparently reviews don't mean everything.

Halo Wars is scoring really well on gamerankings.com, I assume the review was just an oversight on gamespot's part...
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[QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="beast667"] Well, you might be right, I'm playing (and enjoying) Too Human, a 5.5 game :lol:Andrew_Xavier
I'm enjoying a 6.5 game, Halo Wars alot also. Apparently reviews don't mean everything.

Halo Wars is scoring really well on gamerankings.com, I assume the review was just an oversight on gamespot's part...

have you agreed with the average score for every game ever reviewed?

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#25 porky_ownsu
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LEt see...

games i use, or used for online play.

Ace combat 6, fable 2, saints row 2, farcry 2, the orange box, battlefield:bc, gears 1, gears 2, rainbow six vegas 2, call of duty 2, call of duty 4, call of duty: world at war, and halo 3.

Soon: GTA 4, and halo wars.

so... 15 games.

..yeah...

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#26 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]Even by the money for Live logic, $50 a year is nothing, even in these bad economical times.XaosII

Why pay more when comparable systems offer the same, or even more, for 0$?

Because you don't own them. *sad face*
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#27 comstrikeiscool
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People are still buying games on a review which is someone ELSE'S OPINION? Wow...
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#28 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="user_nat"] I'm enjoying a 6.5 game, Halo Wars alot also. Apparently reviews don't mean everything.CaseyWegner

Halo Wars is scoring really well on gamerankings.com, I assume the review was just an oversight on gamespot's part...

have you agreed with the average score for every game ever reviewed?

No, I tend to find most reviews differ from my personal opinion, some websites are much closer than others however.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] Halo Wars is scoring really well on gamerankings.com, I assume the review was just an oversight on gamespot's part...Andrew_Xavier

have you agreed with the average score for every game ever reviewed?

No, I tend to find most reviews differ from my personal opinion, some websites are much closer than others however.

then are each of the cases where your opinion differs oversights on your part?

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#30 BigJerm1
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If $50 a year is a financial burden to you, you probably need to find a hobby other than video games.
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#31 comstrikeiscool
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If $50 a year is a financial burden to you, you probably need to find a hobby other than video games.BigJerm1
If dishing out $50 a year is fine to you, what justifies the price?
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#32 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

have you agreed with the average score for every game ever reviewed?

CaseyWegner

No, I tend to find most reviews differ from my personal opinion, some websites are much closer than others however.

then are each of the cases where your opinion differs oversights on your part?

Depends on the review. The halo wars review clearly went against gamespot's written code, which is featured on the review section, that indicates that they compare games against other games of the same genre on the same platform. Since that was obviously not followed, the review is an oversight on gamespot's part.
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Thats the amount of good games on each system, and thats how many games people buy for each of their systems...if your filthy rich, Xbox Live is good if not then no who agrees?Ciocio7

filthy rich? :lol: it's 4$ a month

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#34 mitu123
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Thats the amount of good games on each system, and thats how many games people buy for each of their systems...if your filthy rich, Xbox Live is good if not then no who agrees?Ciocio7
LOL, only AAA counts, so much for a collection of games...
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#35 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="BigJerm1"]If $50 a year is a financial burden to you, you probably need to find a hobby other than video games.comstrikeiscool
If dishing out $50 a year is fine to you, what justifies the price?

For me, being able to play games like Halo 3, Left 4 Dead and CoD with my friends is plenty enough reason for such a small amount of money.
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#36 Ciocio7
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[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

LEt see...

games i use, or used for online play.

Ace combat 6, fable 2, saints row 2, farcry 2, the orange box, battlefield:bc, gears 1, gears 2, rainbow six vegas 2, call of duty 2, call of duty 4, call of duty: world at war, and halo 3.

Soon: GTA 4, and halo wars.

so... 15 games.

..yeah...

rainbow six is old and worthless... filthy rich people like you can afford to waste money on sequels like call of duty, farcry is a rent at best, ace combat 6??? orange box is boring , gears 1 is boring, wow you like wasteing your money on not AAA games eh? filthy rich people make me sick...20 games for each system for what?i believe besides exclusives the rest is boring
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#37 metalpower08
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Even by the money for Live logic, $50 a year is nothing, even in these bad economical times.Legendaryscmt
for a student it is more than nothing
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[QUOTE="Ciocio7"]Thats the amount of good games on each system, and thats how many games people buy for each of their systems...if your filthy rich, Xbox Live is good if not then no who agrees?johnnyblazed88

filthy rich? :lol: it's 4$ a month

its16 cents a day!
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="BigJerm1"]If $50 a year is a financial burden to you, you probably need to find a hobby other than video games.angelkimne
If dishing out $50 a year is fine to you, what justifies the price?

For me, being able to play games like Halo 3, Left 4 Dead and CoD with my friends is plenty enough reason for such a small amount of money.

They could make the service free and you could still do all of that.
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[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

Thats the amount of good games on each system, and thats how many games people buy for each of their systems...if your filthy rich, Xbox Live is good if not then no who agrees?Ciocio7

filthy rich? :lol: it's 4$ a month

its16 cents a day!

that you have to pay all at once. You could say a new cable box is 50 cents a day but we don't use that logic with a new cable box. We only use that logic for xbox live and it dosen't work that way
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#41 porky_ownsu
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[QUOTE="Ciocio7"][QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

LEt see...

games i use, or used for online play.

Ace combat 6, fable 2, saints row 2, farcry 2, the orange box, battlefield:bc, gears 1, gears 2, rainbow six vegas 2, call of duty 2, call of duty 4, call of duty: world at war, and halo 3.

Soon: GTA 4, and halo wars.

so... 15 games.

..yeah...

rainbow six is old and worthless... filthy rich people like you can afford to waste money on sequels like call of duty, farcry is a rent at best, ace combat 6??? orange box is boring , gears 1 is boring, wow you like wasteing your money on not AAA games eh? filthy rich people make me sick...20 games for each system for what?i believe besides exclusives the rest is boring

i love how i state facts, and you give your OPIONION....
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#42 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"] If dishing out $50 a year is fine to you, what justifies the price?

For me, being able to play games like Halo 3, Left 4 Dead and CoD with my friends is plenty enough reason for such a small amount of money.

They could make the service free and you could still do all of that.

So...?
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]For me, being able to play games like Halo 3, Left 4 Dead and CoD with my friends is plenty enough reason for such a small amount of money.angelkimne
They could make the service free and you could still do all of that.

So...?

That's the point. There is not a single reason it should cost any money at all....
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#44 clone01
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"] They could make the service free and you could still do all of that.comstrikeiscool
So...?

That's the point. There is not a single reason it should cost any money at all....

certainly not. but i am still convinced, from personal experience, that XBL is still far, far superior to PSN.
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#45 comstrikeiscool
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]So...?clone01
That's the point. There is not a single reason it should cost any money at all....

certainly not. but i am still convinced, from personal experience, that XBL is still far, far superior to PSN.

"certainly not"...and what might be the reason?
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#46 Master-Thief-09
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No, that doesn't make sense. Anyway, even if it has 100 AAA's, the point is it should be free (or like half the price at least)
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"] They could make the service free and you could still do all of that.comstrikeiscool
So...?

That's the point. There is not a single reason it should cost any money at all....

I disagree. I know that you can play online on all other systems for free, but at the end of the day we're all using a service. The reason LIVE cost money is because is a basic business model - you have a service and you want people to pay for said service. Obviously, all the other systems prefer a different business model that shifts the burden of maintenence away from the consumers.

Admittedly, I'd like it LIVE was free, but everyone acts like it's so atrocious that Microsoft charge users for their service.

So in short, I suppose my answer is LIVE isn't free because Microsoft is "evil" and charges for everything :P

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#48 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"] That's the point. There is not a single reason it should cost any money at all....comstrikeiscool
certainly not. but i am still convinced, from personal experience, that XBL is still far, far superior to PSN.

"certainly not"...and what might be the reason?

what, that XBL is superior to PSN? or that XBL should be free? 1. yes, XBL should be free, but me, like everyone else on the the 360 bit. 2. sorry, but PSN, imo, is terrible. XBL is more elegant, simple, and functional.
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="clone01"] certainly not. but i am still convinced, from personal experience, that XBL is still far, far superior to PSN.clone01
"certainly not"...and what might be the reason?



what, that XBL is superior to PSN? or that XBL should be free?

1. yes, XBL should be free, but me, like everyone else on the the 360 bit.

2. sorry, but PSN, imo, is terrible. XBL is more elegant, simple, and functional.


When did I mention PSN? I don't even own a ps3. Every time I ask someone to give a reason why XBL should cost money no one can give an answer and so this continues...

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#50 cuddlesofwar
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Thanks for telling me what to do with my money.