5 Reasons not to get excited about Modern Warfare 3

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

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I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

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where's four to one?

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

Hashim19

I will laugh when all you "short campaign" haters out there find out that BF3's single player is 5 hours long and then praise it.

And then you go on to say that "building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice" yet you continue to expect BF3 to be the better game? You do realize that call of duty has a much larger single player background than BF right?

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5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

gamer620

I fell asleep during the e3 stage demo.... follow guy here, place bomb here, get dragged on boat here... is this game on rails??

I liked the SP in COD4, MW2 was just boring though, have not even finished it. Thought I'm not buying it for the SP so if it sucks then it wont bother me, as I just wont play it.

Let's hope this thread doesn't attract CallofDutyXXX.I agree with some of the points from tht article anyway.

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[QUOTE="Hashim19"]

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

millerlight89

And thus, the obvious was stated

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

DarkLink77

Call of Duty PC

Call of Duty 1: United Offensive (Expansion pack) for PC

Call of Duty 1: Finest Hour Xbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 2 PC /xbox 360

Call Of Duty 2: Big Red One Xbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 3 PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at War PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at War - Final Fronts PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Black Ops PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC /xbox 360/PS3

12 Cod games minus 2 spinoffs that was only for the last gen consoles + 1 Expansion pack for PC.

Then COD MW3 is sequal wise COD9 if one is a PC/console only gamer.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

Com64-2

Call of Duty

Call of Duty 1: United OffensivePC

Call of Duty 1: Finest HourXbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 2PC /xbox 360

Call Of Duty 2: Big Red OneXbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 3PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty 4: Modern WarfarePC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at WarPC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at War - Final FrontsPC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Black OpsPC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC /xbox 360/PS3

11 Cod games minus 2 spinoffs that was only for the last gen consoles.

Then COD MW3 is COD9 ifone is a PC/console only gamer.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

DarkLink77

Call of Duty

Call of Duty 1: United OffensivePC

Call of Duty 1: Finest HourXbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 2PC /xbox 360

Call Of Duty 2: Big Red OneXbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 3PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty 4: Modern WarfarePC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at WarPC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at War - Final FrontsPC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Black OpsPC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC /xbox 360/PS3

11 Cod games minus 2 spinoffs that was only for the last gen consoles.

Then COD MW3 is COD9 ifone is a PC/console only gamer.

Call of Duty PC

Call of Duty 1: United Offensive (Expansion pack) for PC

Call of Duty 1: Finest Hour Xbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 2 PC /xbox 360

Call Of Duty 2: Big Red One Xbox, Gamecube, Ps2

Call of Duty 3 PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at War PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: World at War - Final Fronts PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Black Ops PC /xbox 360/PS3

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC /xbox 360/PS3

12 Cod games minus 2 spinoffs that was only for the last gen consoles + 1 Expansion pack for PC.

Then COD MW3 is sequal wise COD9 if one is a PC/console only gamer.

Yes I get your point a super rehash but still sells like hot cakes.

I will be getting BF3 for a change.

Who the hell plays BF for the campaign :? lollolool

millerlight89

You'd have to be crazy to play BF for single player.

At least this time it seems worth playing. Co-op campaign is enough to make me wanna finish it.

Now it's a BF3 Vs MW3..?

hey look, the battlefield 3 guys write articles in their spare time.

reason 6. p2p is pathetic. lags all the time. ive seen 5 host migrations in one match. i'm actaully surprised if theirs no migration during a match. the other to big mp shooters: gears 3 and bf3 will both have dedicated servers

1. Because you're dead.

2. Because you're in a coma.

3. Because you have been living under a rock.

4. Because you have to play it on PS3.

5. Because you're dead.

1. Because you're dead.

2. Because you're in a coma.

3. Because you have been living under a rock.

4. Because you have to play it on PS3.

5. Because you're dead.

FPSDad1161

Or because you have previous COD.

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

DarkLink77

This, and you didn't even mention the fact that it's literally. The Same Game Every Time Around! :evil:

Seriously, new killstreaks, and a different setting are not upgrades/updates or even making the game feel newer or better. Even if they tried something new, and it turned out to be total crap. I'd at least give them credit for trying something new for once, or adding actual features or gameplay.

And the campaigns are so lame, run down this narrow street, get shot 60 times in the face, bloody screen so real, hold down the trigger. Use this glowing RPG to shoot down that Helicopter right there, here I'll hold your hand some more, don't get lost in this narrow street going straight!

I do like the Multiplayer and CoD 4's campaign was fun, but MW2's and BlOps was awful. And it's just the same thing every year. Or as DarkLink said, 12 games in 8 years...

EDIT: With that being said, I don't have anything against those who enjoy it. It is fun and all, I just personally don't like rebuying the same game every year. Thankfully I've only bought 2 CoD games, that's enough for me.

reason 6. p2p is pathetic. lags all the time. ive seen 5 host migrations in one match. i'm actaully surprised if theirs no migration during a match. the other to big mp shooters: gears 3 and bf3 will both have dedicated servers

Cranler

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1. Because you're dead.

2. Because you're in a coma.

3. Because you have been living under a rock.

4. Because you have to play it on PS3.

5. Because you're dead.

Bebi_vegeta

Or because you have previous COD.

The same can be said for any game that has a sequel. There usually isn't a huge jump from one game to it's sequel. I've owned ever CoD from Modern Warfare to Black Ops, and I will be buying MW3 as well. I'm sure it will be similar to Black Ops, but that dosen't mean it won't be a great game.

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reason 6. p2p is pathetic. lags all the time. ive seen 5 host migrations in one match. i'm actaully surprised if theirs no migration during a match. the other to big mp shooters: gears 3 and bf3 will both have dedicated servers

locopatho

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

Hashim19

Anything from COD4 and up are almost identical, with the exception of vehicles in World at War. Perks, killstreaks.. and different skins on the guns which all seem to have hte same feel to them, with no kickback... cad4, 5, 6, 7 ... all the same as cod4.

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Hashim19"]

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

gamer620

I will laugh when all you "short campaign" haters out there find out that BF3's single player is 5 hours long and then praise it.

And then you go on to say that "building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice" yet you continue to expect BF3 to be the better game? You do realize that call of duty has a much larger single player background than BF right?

I'll give you one good reason. Because it's Call of Duty 12, and this series began in 2003. 12 installments in eight years. And people wonder why we're sick of it.

DarkLink77

Two things:

First, what's with all the people saying BF was never about the campaign and then loling at CoD for a 5 hour campaign? Face it. Ever since CoD4, CoD has nevre been about the campaign either. So that's really a moot point.

Second, a better, and SINGLE reason is that there have simply been too many CoD games in the past few years. The formula is stale, and that's why I'm not excited for CoD at all. If DICE released a BF game every year, it would have the same result.

haters gonna hate, MW3 will be a great game and sell great too.

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[QUOTE="Hashim19"]

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

millerlight89

- I don't see the problem with there being a CoD game pretty much every year. They do the same with Sports games, and they have arguably fewer improvements with each installment. There's not much that they can do with the formula of CoD anyway. It's a wartime shooter. What do people expect the Devs to do with the series, CoD: Beachball? :lol:

- The short singleplayer campaign is pretty much a moot point as well because CoD is all about the multiplayer nowadays. The same can be said for BattleField too. People have always played BF largely for the multiplayer, and yet that game gets praised (and rightly so), but to criticise CoD for doing the same is quite petty.

- Moaning about DLC prices is silly. Have people forgotten DLC is optional? They don't force you to fork out £10 for a few maps. If you pay it then that's YOUR decision. Considering maps are for multiplayer, and multiplayer has an almost infinite lifetime - you can get more fun for your money than if you'd spent £40 on a 5hr game with no multiplayer. I don't buy DLC maps, and I still enjoy my games.

- I don't really see how BF3 is a reason not to be excited about Mw3. People seem to think it's a choice between either CoD or BF nowadays. Why can'y you buy both games and enjoy them for what they offer? I know I will.

The only reason you need is that it's gonna be the exact same thing as Black Ops.

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[QUOTE="Hashim19"]

5) The Single-player campaign.

Just like CoD4 and especially Modern Warfare 2, expect a very short single-player. Yes, it may be impressive and resemble a Michael Bay movie but at the end of the day a game should be able to stand on its own via the single-player campaign and in modern times, building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice. Many people buy the Call of Duty games without even touching the single-player but once you've had enough of campers and bugs and poorly designed maps, you'll probably want something else to fall onto to assure yourself that spending

Whole article http://goo.gl/fLsL1

I like few points but single player one is correct also dlc one ... Batlefield 3 is going to be huge :D

AmazonTreeBoa

I will laugh when all you "short campaign" haters out there find out that BF3's single player is 5 hours long and then praise it.

And then you go on to say that "building a game solely around the multiplayer is not good practice" yet you continue to expect BF3 to be the better game? You do realize that call of duty has a much larger single player background than BF right?

Once again, do people seriously expect much from CoD single player anymore? People have complained about the campaigns in CoD since the original Modern Warfare. The original comment is nothing but a hypocritical remark from a call of duty hater. Nothing more. You can argue all you want about how no one cares about Single player in a BF game, but guess what, when you argue that the worst part about CoD is because of its campaign length and then go on to say BF3 is going to be superior, that is just blind hate. especially considering that the CoD franchise now sells because of its more accessible multiplayer component. Which is exactly why BF3 will sell for... because of its Multiplayer component

Hypocrisy seems to be lost on System Wars. I am in no way arguing that CoD won't suck or BF3 will be amazing, I am simply trying to figure out if the original poster was being hypocritical in his post because he truly thinks BF3 is not going to suffer from the same problems, or if hes just trying to make another I hate CoD thread.

1. Because you're dead.

2. Because you're in a coma.

3. Because you have been living under a rock.

4. Because you have to play it on PS3.

5. Because you're dead.

FPSDad1161

Or because you played Black Ops and realized how medicore and plain the multiplayer is.

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[QUOTE="FPSDad1161"]

1. Because you're dead.

2. Because you're in a coma.

3. Because you have been living under a rock.

4. Because you have to play it on PS3.

5. Because you're dead.

FPSDad1161

Or because you have previous COD.

The same can be said for any game that has a sequel. There usually isn't a huge jump from one game to it's sequel. I've owned ever CoD from Modern Warfare to Black Ops, and I will be buying MW3 as well. I'm sure it will be similar to Black Ops, but that dosen't mean it won't be a great game.

Yes, but atleast sequel games have another good story or something that changed multiplayer side... but MW3 hasn't either of theses.

- I don't see the problem with there being a CoD game pretty much every year. They do the same with Sports games, and they have arguably fewer improvements with each installment. There's not much that they can do with the formula of CoD anyway. It's a wartime shooter. What do people expect the Devs to do with the series, CoD: Beachball? :lol:

- The short singleplayer campaign is pretty much a moot point as well because CoD is all about the multiplayer nowadays. The same can be said for BattleField too. People have always played BF largely for the multiplayer, and yet that game gets praised (and rightly so), but to criticise CoD for doing the same is quite petty.

- Moaning about DLC prices is silly. Have people forgotten DLC is optional? They don't force you to fork out £10 for a few maps. If you pay it then that's YOUR decision. Considering maps are for multiplayer, and multiplayer has an almost infinite lifetime - you can get more fun for your money than if you'd spent £40 on a 5hr game with no multiplayer. I don't buy DLC maps, and I still enjoy my games.

- I don't really see how BF3 is a reason not to be excited about Mw3. People seem to think it's a choice between either CoD or BF nowadays. Why can'y you buy both games and enjoy them for what they offer? I know I will.

KlepticGrooves

- The sports games you referred have innovated more then COD did over the years. Just because it's hard for COD to innovate doesn't mean they should do the same thing over and over.

- How is a short singleplayer a moot point? It's a perfectly valid reason to 'not get exited' over COD. Good Singleplayer is a great addition to the overall game and the lack of a good singleplayer is a waste of potential.


- If someone wants to play COD competitivly than DLC's are pretty much obligated, claiming that DLC's can be ignored without consequences in the online gaming experience is simply false.