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#1 leandrro
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500 dollars 2009's PC beats Xbox One

AMD HD 5850 1gb GDDR5 U$240 price in 2009
AMD Athlon x4 620 U$90 price in 2009
Motherboard U$40 price in 2009
2gb DDR3 U$40 price in 2009
320gb HDD U$60 price in 2009
ATX Case U$20 price in 2009
350W PSU U$40 price in 2009
Wireless keyboard and mouse U$15 price in 2009

Total U$545 in 2009

comparison
PC vs Xbox one (100% of tech rumors have been confirmed so far)
GDDR5 video memory vs DDR3 video memory
2.0 teraflops vs 1.2 teraflops
core clock 725Mhz vs 800Mhz
memory bandwidth 128gb/sec. vs 102 gb/sec.
gpu transistors 2 billion vs 2 billion
1440 Stream Processing Units vs 768 stream processing units

one equivalent performance PC today would cost around 300-350

Battlefield 3 1080p ultra settings performance
40fps vs 35fps

HD5850 bf3 videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiZqpGh8eqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg1uwUisL-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciG73zfv6aM

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#2 clyde46
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Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.
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#3 silversix_
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With console optimization it will outperform a rig with a 5850... now i feel bad for defending xbone
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#4 leandrro
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ps. im not a PC fanboy in december 2008 i bought a x360

but it died from natural causes in sep 2010

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#5 leandrro
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5850 will beat x1 in every game

about console optimization:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGW1bk1nmM&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjcXKEc7MsE&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E1rvJAMC78&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

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#6 NEWMAHAY
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Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46
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#7 OhSnapitz
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..what about the PS3? Why only target the XBOne.
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#8 Rocker6
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Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46

It could, if you lower the settings enough. Used to own a 5850, it was a very competent card!

Still, the comparison is pointless...

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.Rocker6

It could, if you lower the settings enough. Used to own a 5850, it was a very competent card!

Still, the comparison is pointless...

But the consoles will look better then.
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#10 GungraveRX
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..what about the PS3? Why only target the XBOne.OhSnapitz
2GB DDR3 RAM You were never close OP. But you can built a much better modern one for $500, so why go for old tech?
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#11 clyde46
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You aren't not going to find DDR2 for $40 now.
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#12 FireEmblem_Man
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That PSU won't be able to run that 5850 you know

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#13 lostrib
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2gb of RAM? really

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#14 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46

It could, if you lower the settings enough. Used to own a 5850, it was a very competent card!

Still, the comparison is pointless...

But the consoles will look better then.

True... while a modern gaming rig will easily outmatch X1, and even the PS4, biased comparisons like this are pointless. Everyone with a working brain knows you can't win the specs war against the PC, but still, no point in pretending how consoles are total crap.

They're not, they pack enough power to be balanced and accessible systems fit for purpose for the demand of many gamers, and nothing wrong with that.

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#15 psymon100
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I don't think so man. 

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#16 GONtheSKYLORD
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The thing you are forgetting TC is a PC of equal spec to the console will get outperformed.
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#17 nameless12345
Member since 2010 • 15125 Posts

I'd rather wait for AMD 8 series.

It will have a great price and twice the power of PS4.

Together with an 8-core AMD CPU and 8 gigs of RAM or more, it should run circles around next-gen consoles. (unless the console ports will be un-optimized crap like it was the case with many console ports this generation)

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#18 mitu123
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...No way.O_o

That PSU won't be able to run that 5850 you know

FireEmblem_Man
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#19 xsubtownerx
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2GB of RAM beats 8?
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#20 Maneil99
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350w PSu is not going to power a 5850...

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#21 hexashadow13
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There is so much wrong with that I don't know where to begin. :/
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#22 anshul89
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The Xbox one is a disaster.
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#23 MonsieurX
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But 8gb GDDR5
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#24 leandrro
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i did another topic named 5 years old pc beats ps4

but that PC in 2008 cost 1200 dollars

with the lower performance of the x1, going from 2008 to 2009 and higher price you can make this comparison with a 2009 500 dollar pc

ps4 pc equivalent hardware costs 400 dollars, its not overpriced like x1 but you still have to pay for online while pcs dont

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#25 leandrro
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]..what about the PS3? Why only target the XBOne.GungraveRX
2GB DDR3 RAM You were never close OP. But you can built a much better modern one for $500, so why go for old tech?

 

its to prove how larggely overpriced it is

the 500 dollars for that kind of performance should be sold in 2009 not 2013

 

x1 gpu cant handle more than 1gb ddr5 just like

even the ps4 gpu is useless with more than 2gb ddr5, 8gb (ddr3) is for system memory, OS, video recording, tv etc etc

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#26 jsmoke03
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500 dollars 2009's PC beats Xbox One

AMD HD 5850 1gb GDDR5 U$240 price in 2009
AMD Athlon x4 620 U$90 price in 2009
Motherboard U$40 price in 2009
2gb DDR3 U$40 price in 2009
320gb HDD U$60 price in 2009
ATX Case U$20 price in 2009
350W PSU U$40 price in 2009
Wireless keyboard and mouse U$15 price in 2009

Total U$545 in 2009

comparison
PC vs Xbox one (100% of tech rumors have been confirmed so far)
GDDR5 video memory vs DDR3 video memory
2.0 teraflops vs 1.2 teraflops
core clock 725Mhz vs 800Mhz
memory bandwidth 128gb/sec. vs 102 gb/sec.
gpu transistors 2 billion vs 2 billion
1440 Stream Processing Units vs 768 stream processing units

one equivalent performance PC today would cost around 300-350

Battlefield 3 1080p ultra settings performance
40fps vs 35fps

HD5850 bf3 videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiZqpGh8eqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg1uwUisL-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciG73zfv6aM

leandrro
gotta add the os to the price or it wont play games
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#27 leandrro
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That PSU won't be able to run that 5850 you know

FireEmblem_Man

 

hd 5850 has 151W tdp

athlon has around 95W

all the rest is around 30W

350W is far more than enough

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#28 leandrro
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2gb of RAM? really

lostrib

 

its 3gb , there is one in the gpu

and gpu ram is gddr5

but nothing proves the point anymore than the real hd 5850 in a 2009's pc running bf3 better than x1 would

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#29 foxhound_fox
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2GB of RAM? Yeah, if all you are running is an email client. Most internet browsers these days take a minimum of 500MB running idle. Windows 7 is 1GB. 8GB is the bare minimum for a competent PC these days.
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#30 leandrro
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2GB of RAM beats 8?xsubtownerx

 

sure

128 memory bandwidth vs 102

its quality over quantity

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Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46

I was going to come in here to say pretty much the same thing.

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#32 leandrro
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You aren't not going to find DDR2 for $40 now. clyde46

its a 2009 build

today i would go with a hd 7770 1gbgddr5 + with 4gb ddr3 ram + amd quad core for $65 in a total of 300-350 dollars

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#33 leandrro
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350w PSu is not going to power a 5850...

Maneil99

 

why people waste so much on PSU?

is says 151W tdp means you need 151W for the video card

people never go to extreme power supply calculator?

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#34 leandrro
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There is so much wrong with that I don't know where to begin. :/hexashadow13

real life perfomance tells it all despite the tech crap

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#35 leandrro
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2GB of RAM? Yeah, if all you are running is an email client. Most internet browsers these days take a minimum of 500MB running idle. Windows 7 is 1GB. 8GB is the bare minimum for a competent PC these days.foxhound_fox

 

its a 2009 build, it would be stupid to build one like this today

my 300 dollar pc runnng bf3 at ultra uses about 2gb for windows, 900mb for bf3 and i still make a 1200mb ram drive on the rest of the unused ram

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#36 millerlight89
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ZZZZZ New consoles >> PC
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#37 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]2GB of RAM beats 8?leandrro

 

sure

128 memory bandwidth vs 102

its quality over quantity

2GB of ram ain't getting you anywhere with a lot of the newer games. And also like another user pointed out, without an OS your not going to be able to play your games.
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#38 jimmyrussle117
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Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46

Those demos were running on a PC.

Peasants these days.

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#39 leandrro
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[QUOTE="leandrro"]

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]2GB of RAM beats 8?xsubtownerx

 

sure

128 memory bandwidth vs 102

its quality over quantity

2GB of ram ain't getting you anywhere with a lot of the newer games. And also like another user pointed out, without an OS your not going to be able to play your games.

 

ok, after using this pc for 4 years in december 2013 the guy will buy a 20 dollar 4gb ram to make it good for another 5 years

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#40 lostrib
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.jimmyrussle117

Those demos were running on a PC.

Peasants these days.

yes, high end PCs or dev kits. Not $500 PCs from 2009

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#41 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

350w PSu is not going to power a 5850...

leandrro

 

why people waste so much on PSU?

is says 151W tdp means you need 151W for the video card

people never go to extreme power supply calculator?

you realize that PSUs aren't 100% efficient, right?

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#42 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="GungraveRX"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]..what about the PS3? Why only target the XBOne.leandrro

2GB DDR3 RAM You were never close OP. But you can built a much better modern one for $500, so why go for old tech?

 

its to prove how larggely overpriced it is

the 500 dollars for that kind of performance should be sold in 2009 not 2013

 

x1 gpu cant handle more than 1gb ddr5 just like

even the ps4 gpu is useless with more than 2gb ddr5, 8gb (ddr3) is for system memory, OS, video recording, tv etc etc

 

overpriced? launch consoles are usually sold at a loss or at cost... how can they be overpriced? this is literally the dumbest thing i have ever heard.

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#43 Inconsistancy
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It wont run any next-gen games, even if you have more theoretical performance, you don't have any RAM to use it. And even if you had 128GB of system RAM, the GPU is the one that's going to be choked, once it's off of its VRAM it'll tank in frame rate.

why people waste so much on PSU?

is says 151W tdp means you need 151W for the video card

people never go to extreme power supply calculator?

leandrro

Efficiency and reliability. A 750W Corsair uses less energy at 300W than a 350W generic PSU (which may not even be able to keep 350W stable). And I had a generic PSU on my previous computer, it burt out in a thunderstorm.

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#44 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.jimmyrussle117

Those demos were running on a PC.

Peasants these days.

Try again peasant.
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#45 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]You aren't not going to find DDR2 for $40 now. leandrro

its a 2009 build

today i would go with a hd 7770 1gbgddr5 + with 4gb ddr3 ram + amd quad core for $65 in a total of 300-350 dollars

Why the hell would you build a PC now from parts from 2009 unless you are flat broke? Hell if you are that poor PC gaming, hell gaming in general is the last thing you should be doing.
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#46 AM-Gamer
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An Xbox one would smoke that rig and its a joke of a console for its price. 

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#47 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46

Those demos were running on a PC.

Peasants these days.

Try again peasant.

Ubisoft demos werent runnong in pc's . That was EA.

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#48 Zophar87
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I built my PC back in 2010 and it's par with the Xbone at the very least..

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#49 II_Seraphim_II
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I feel like a lot of PC gamers dont understand the concept that if you have a PC and a console with the exact same specs, the console will outperform the PC every single time. That's because games for a console are optimized to one set of hardware. PC hardware is highly variable and thus optimization occurs but not to the same level as consoles. And not to mention that consoles (well, most consoles excluding the X1 lol) are primarily made for games, and thus all the hardware and resources are geared towards that, save lil that's used for the OS. On the other hand, PCs are far more varied and used for multiple tasks.
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#50 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Yea, don't care. It wont run The Division or Watch Dogs at 60FPS.clyde46

Those demos were running on a PC.

Peasants these days.

Try again peasant. http://imgur.com/4I2gbxF" title="http://imgur.com/4I2gbxF">

So yeah clyde....uh...feel free to post ur address.....if you get robbed of your sexy setup, it wasnt me :P