6 Over-Exaggerated topics of System Wars

A lot of this has been going around lately, so why not put them all in one topic.

1. Games with multiple discs on the Xbox360.

Cows have used this argument to defend the necessity of Blu-Ray, and while it certainly is a negative trait to have, the issue has simply been blown way out of porpotion. Having to switch a disc after 10-20 hours of gameplay is by no means tedious, or annoying. It's not even worth mentioning. Gamers don't care, and if you honestly do -- think about how lazy you sound.

While it may make MS look bad and the 360 look outdated, it has no affect on game quality.

2. Halo 3's graphics

For every thread bashing Halo 3's graphics as "terrible," there is a thread that praises Halo 3's graphics as "mind-blowing." If you take sides with either -- you are a fanboy. Halo 3 is a good looking game. Can't you leave it at that?

3. Backwards Compatibility of the Playstation 3

The same people who bash the PS3 on this boards are all of a sudden crying about how Sony took BC out of the 40gig. If you don't have a working PS2 by 2007, and are a big enough gamer to be on a forum for videogame consoles -- i find you odd.

Not to mention, you can get BC, 80 gigs, and a bundled game for the extra $100. $500 console--expensive? Hell yes. A rip off? -- are you nuts?

4. The price of PC gaming

Like the Halo 3 graphic whores, there are people on here who say PC gaming costs $3000+ to get into, and at the same time PC gamers claiming they can run Crysis on a $300 machine. $1000-1500 is the usual price for a non tech-savvy consumer who wants a high end gaming machine. And considering that computers can do so many things -- the price is very understandable

5. Xbox360 Failure Rate

It sucks, we know. But again, the issue isn't that big of a deal. I've had a 360 for nearly a year now, and I'm on my 2nd. Yes there is that period where someone finds themselves without a 360 for a few weeks as it gets replaced for free. It's horrible isn't it? Not really. If you can't live without one videogame console for a few weeks than you represent a very small percentage of gamers.

I didn't even notice mine was gone, I have other hobbies.

6. The PS3 is doomed and/or should pull out of the race

I can understand when people tease fanboys about this subject, but sometimes I realize, they are being dead serious. They actually think the PS3 is going to litterally fail and cease production.

PS3 will be a $400 console starting Nov 2nd. It has a blu-ray player and a recovering library (we all know about its 2008 lineup). If anything it will be a strong competitor this gen, and the fact that people believe it will downright fail are flat out ignorant.

....of course they are more ridiculous arguments out there, but I can't think of anymore, feel free to add.

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

animateria

I had to wait and I didn't care. I have other things to do.

and what of this "there are no games for the PS3" argument? or do you agree with that bogus statement?0rin

Meh, I though that kind of fit into the "PS3 is doomed topic"

[QUOTE="0rin"]and what of this "there are no games for the PS3" argument? or do you agree with that bogus statement?Koalakommander

Meh, I though that kind of fit into the "PS3 is doomed topic"

7. Wii is killing the future of gaming. Blame Wii Fit.Homesrfan

more like its killing real exercising

umm, thw wii has full BC, but you said next gen and since no console is next gen i guess you're correct.marth678

failure rate is a big deali-lick-monkeys

for MS, not for gamers, im in my 4th and i still love the 360, sucks for MS but what the hell do i care?

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

animateria

[QUOTE="marth678"]umm, thw wii has full BC, but you said next gen and since no console is next gen i guess you're correct.Lazy_Boy88

Fanboy

[QUOTE="animateria"]

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

Koalakommander

I had to wait and I didn't care. I have other things to do.

I've read enough stuff with people complaining about it... Obviously its not going to be every 360 owner that had the red ring problem...

5. Xbox360 Failure Rate

It sucks, we know. But again, the issue isn't that big of a deal. I've had a 360 for nearly a year now, and I'm on my 2nd. Yes there is that period where someone finds themselves without a 360 for a few weeks as it gets replaced for free. It's horrible isn't it? Not really. If you can't live without one videogame console for a few weeks than you represent a very small percentage of gamers.

I didn't even notice mine was gone, I have other hobbies.Koalakommander

Agree with them all except this one, BIG TIME. It's incredibly SAD that when you go into buying a 360 that you're basically flipping a coin to see if you can expect your 360 to still be working a year later.

You've never seen a company spend 1 billion dollars trying to cover warranties on their faulty system before in VG history. This is a huge deal.

Wow, I haven't logged on to system wars in probably about a year. Some things never change.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

5. Xbox360 Failure Rate

It sucks, we know. But again, the issue isn't that big of a deal. I've had a 360 for nearly a year now, and I'm on my 2nd. Yes there is that period where someone finds themselves without a 360 for a few weeks as it gets replaced for free. It's horrible isn't it? Not really. If you can't live without one videogame console for a few weeks than you represent a very small percentage of gamers.

I didn't even notice mine was gone, I have other hobbies.Amnesiacx

Agree with them all except this one, BIG TIME. It's incredibly SAD that when you go into buying a 360 that you're basically flipping a coin to see if you can expect your 360 to still be working a year later.

You've never seen a company spend 1 billion dollars trying to cover warranties on their faulty system before in VG history. This is a huge deal.

perhaps it's a big financial deal, from a gaming stnadpoint it really isn't anything.

I have a working PS2 and I want BC. Is it that odd to want to streamline your equipment? I don't want to have to either keep my PS2 out when I already have a PS3, or pull the PS2 out everytime I want to play a PS2 game. My 360 replaced my Xbox, my PS2 replaced my PS1. I don't have a Wii, but for those that do, it probably replaced their Gamecube. That's how it works. It's all about convenience and aesthetics. Current PS3 owners should be intimately familiar with the concept of aesthetics, it's half the reason they bought the thing.Zeliard9

Try to budget that extra whopping extra $100 for an 80 gig PS3 then. It's not that hard.

7. Wii is killing the future of gaming. Blame Wii Fit.Homesrfan

Yeah, cause its out already, and in many homes, so we know its affects. Come one, dude. Helping the industry grow doesn't hurt gaming, it helps it. The more money console makers and devs see, there more they'll spend. And that means better games for all.

Don't be so blind.

Wow, I agree with you 100% this time. That was basically the most non-biased non-fanboy post I've ever seen in SW's.BioShockOwnz

Also Wii is a fad and nothing but a gimmick. I think by now we can agree it is not a fad but many still say that.

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]7. Wii is killing the future of gaming. Blame Wii Fit.The_Crucible

Yeah, cause its out already, and in many homes, so we know its affects. Come one, dude. Helping the industry grow doesn't hurt gaming, it helps it. The more money console makers and devs see, there more they'll spend. And that means better games for all.

Don't be so blind.

Er... He just means that the argument for Wii killing future gaming is exaggerated...

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]I have a working PS2 and I want BC. Is it that odd to want to streamline your equipment? I don't want to have to either keep my PS2 out when I already have a PS3, or pull the PS2 out everytime I want to play a PS2 game. My 360 replaced my Xbox, my PS2 replaced my PS1. I don't have a Wii, but for those that do, it probably replaced their Gamecube. That's how it works. It's all about convenience and aesthetics. Current PS3 owners should be intimately familiar with the concept of aesthetics, it's half the reason they bought the thing.Koalakommander

Try to budget that extra whopping extra $100 for an 80 gig PS3 then. It's not that hard.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]I have a working PS2 and I want BC. Is it that odd to want to streamline your equipment? I don't want to have to either keep my PS2 out when I already have a PS3, or pull the PS2 out everytime I want to play a PS2 game. My 360 replaced my Xbox, my PS2 replaced my PS1. I don't have a Wii, but for those that do, it probably replaced their Gamecube. That's how it works. It's all about convenience and aesthetics. Current PS3 owners should be intimately familiar with the concept of aesthetics, it's half the reason they bought the thing.Zeliard9

Try to budget that extra whopping extra $100 for an 80 gig PS3 then. It's not that hard.

Naturally defeating the whole purpose of attracting new customers by having a PS3 at $399. Good argument, though, as expected.

You are attracting many new customers at the $400 pricepoint. Sony doesn't care about the rare exception that happens to be you.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]I have a working PS2 and I want BC. Is it that odd to want to streamline your equipment? I don't want to have to either keep my PS2 out when I already have a PS3, or pull the PS2 out everytime I want to play a PS2 game. My 360 replaced my Xbox, my PS2 replaced my PS1. I don't have a Wii, but for those that do, it probably replaced their Gamecube. That's how it works. It's all about convenience and aesthetics. Current PS3 owners should be intimately familiar with the concept of aesthetics, it's half the reason they bought the thing.Koalakommander

Try to budget that extra whopping extra $100 for an 80 gig PS3 then. It's not that hard.

Naturally defeating the whole purpose of attracting new customers by having a PS3 at $399. Good argument, though, as expected.

You are attracting many new customers at the $400 pricepoint. Sony doesn't care about the rare exception that happens to be you.

Yes, I'm the only one annoyed that it doesn't have BC, clearly why you brought it up in the OP. :roll: If potential customers don't like the idea of a console having no BC, why doesn't that make it a legitimate issue? Isn't it a legitimate issue by virtue of that alone? People aren't bringing it up just to troll, people are bringing it up because they want to buy a reasonably priced PS3 with the basic features you expect out of almost any console released in the decade. Like backwards compatibility.

failure rate is a big deali-lick-monkeys

So is the PS3s future.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]I have a working PS2 and I want BC. Is it that odd to want to streamline your equipment? I don't want to have to either keep my PS2 out when I already have a PS3, or pull the PS2 out everytime I want to play a PS2 game. My 360 replaced my Xbox, my PS2 replaced my PS1. I don't have a Wii, but for those that do, it probably replaced their Gamecube. That's how it works. It's all about convenience and aesthetics. Current PS3 owners should be intimately familiar with the concept of aesthetics, it's half the reason they bought the thing.Zeliard9

Try to budget that extra whopping extra $100 for an 80 gig PS3 then. It's not that hard.

Naturally defeating the whole purpose of attracting new customers by having a PS3 at $399. Good argument, though, as expected.

You are attracting many new customers at the $400 pricepoint. Sony doesn't care about the rare exception that happens to be you.

Yes, I'm the only one annoyed that it doesn't have BC, clearly why you brought it up in the OP. :roll: If potential customers don't like the idea of a console having no BC, why doesn't that make it a legitimate issue? Isn't it a legitimate issue by virtue of that alone? People aren't bringing it up just to troll, people are bringing it up because they want to buy a reasonably priced PS3 with the basic features you expect out of almost any console released in the decade. Like backwards compatibility.

And yet you still fail to realize that you can get a model superior to the $600 60gig, for $100 cheaper.

The PS3 will always be the most expensive console this gen--it's a blu-ray player remember? The $399 model is for the people who want the PS3 for its games, but couldn't afford it earlier. Now they can, and if BC is a huge problem for them, a good deal still remains with the 80 gig model.

IMO that's the best selection of SKUs I've seen this gen.

And yet you still fail to realize that you can get a model superior to the $600 60gig, for $100 cheaper.

The PS3 will always be the most expensive console this gen--it's a blu-ray player remember? The $399 model is for the people who want the PS3 for its games, but couldn't afford it earlier. Now they can, and if BC is a huge problem for them, a good deal still remains with the 80 gig model.

IMO that's the best selection of SKUs I've seen this gen.

Koalakommander

you right, hes wrong. you want BC ? you get the 60/80 gb. you don't want it? you get 40gb. end story. BC argument isworse than theno games argument.

i mean how can you be upset they tried to make a console cheaper?

[QUOTE="animateria"]

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

Unforgiven2870

very true Unforgiven, in fact, check this out animateria....

http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/xpsdt?~ck=anav&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

yea check the far right one..... Exaggerated my ASS!!!

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="animateria"]

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

KGB32

very true Unforgiven, in fact, check this out animateria....

http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/xpsdt?~ck=anav&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

yea check the far right one..... Exaggerated my ASS!!!

Then I guess My rig is rubbish... Though it can play all the games coming out...

DELL? thanks for that "UNBIASED OPINION"

[QUOTE="KGB32"][QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="animateria"]

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

animateria

very true Unforgiven, in fact, check this out animateria....

http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/xpsdt?~ck=anav&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

yea check the far right one..... Exaggerated my ***!!!

Then I guess My rig is rubbish... Though it can play all the games coming out...

DELL? thanks for that "UNBIASED OPINION"

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Yes, I'm the only one annoyed that it doesn't have BC, clearly why you brought it up in the OP. :roll: If potential customers don't like the idea of a console having no BC, why doesn't that make it a legitimate issue? Isn't it a legitimate issue by virtue of that alone? People aren't bringing it up just to troll, people are bringing it up because they want to buy a reasonably priced PS3 with the basic features you expect out of almost any console released in the decade. Like backwards compatibility.

Koalakommander

And yet you still fail to realize that you can get a model superior to the $600 60gig, for $100 cheaper.

The PS3 will always be the most expensive console this gen--it's a blu-ray player remember? The $399 model is for the people who want the PS3 for its games, but couldn't afford it earlier. Now they can, and if BC is a huge problem for them, a good deal still remains with the 80 gig model.

IMO that's the best selection of SKUs I've seen this gen.

I don't think you'll even see the $399 model make a very significant difference in sales until next year, because this holiday season people will be buying 360s and especially Wiis. Sony lowered the price because it was absolutely necessary. Remember, the PS3 launched less than a year ago and they've already sliced the price by $200. They obviously didn't want to. What helped them is that overall manufacturing costs since launch have gone down. Software emulation didn't factor at all into the price reduction.

That's why people have beef with them removing BC with PS2 games: it just wasn't necessary. I personally see it as a way for them to get people to start buying more PS3 games, since the PS2 has probably hurt the PS3 and its games' sales as much as anything else.

[QUOTE="animateria"]

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

Unforgiven2870

and what of this "there are no games for the PS3" argument? or do you agree with that bogus statement?0rin

theres games for the ps3!?!?!??! :o hahhaa you set that up :twisted:

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="animateria"]

Price of PC gaming doesn't come at $3000.

A well performing PC will go around 1000-1500. Its more expensive yes but $3000 is greatly exaggerated...

Xbox 360 failure rates is a bad thing. People who need to wait for their 360 to be repaired will agree on that.

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