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#1 A_Gamerz_soul
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I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

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I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

A_Gamerz_soul

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.

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I don't get the point of this, we all know Sony isn't going to overclock anything because it alienatesover 3.5million users so why bother posting about it?
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#5 A_Gamerz_soul
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I don't get the point of this, we all know Sony isn't going to overclock anything because it alienatesover 3.5million users so why bother posting about it?PBSnipes

why bother being on a gaming forum giving your opinions like they give ****
now thats what i call irony

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#6 MorisUkunRasik
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Naw its the PS3s Hardware spces that need help not the 360s.
KillaHalo2o9

really...care to explain?

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I don't get the point of this, we all know Sony isn't going to overclock anything because it alienatesover 3.5million users so why bother posting about it?PBSnipes

because that didnt happen with the psp's RAM???

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#8 osirisomeomi
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The new process will make the PS3 run cooler and lower costs. It will not cause overclocking.
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[QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

KillaHalo2o9

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.



Denial like thatis a sickness. I could point you to a psychiatrist if you want. lol
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I don't see the need to overclock it for games....but if we opened one up and OC'd I wonder how much faster we can get Folding@Home to run. I mean seriously the PS3 has the best CPU for doing the mathematical operations that Folding needs and if we could overclock it, well just imagine.
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#11 squallff8_fan
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[QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

KillaHalo2o9

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.

Well looking at the faulty percentage of xbox 360's I would say they need more help then ps3's.

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

squallff8_fan

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.

Well looking at the faulty percentage of xbox 360's I would say they need more help then ps3's.

I think he is refereing to the PS3s graphic inferiority
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#13 A_Gamerz_soul
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

squallff8_fan

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.

Well looking at the faulty percentage of xbox 360's I would say they need more help then ps3's.

OWNED (thanx man)

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Naw its the PS3s Hardware spces that need help not the 360s.
MorisUkunRasik

really...care to explain?

Games both on the PS3 and, 360 Run better on the Xbox360 Framerates

Xbox360 Polygon count 500 million Tri Per Sec PS3 Polygon Count 275/333.3Milion Tri Per Sec Higher the # faster display time.

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

_AsasN_

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.



Denial like thatis a sickness. I could point you to a psychiatrist if you want. lol

lol!

so true! there are some ppl here that make their console their religion... that's sick!

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I don't get the point of this, we all know Sony isn't going to overclock anything because it alienatesover 3.5million users so why bother posting about it?pridetwo

because that didnt happen with the psp's RAM???

I assume you're talking about how people have discovered how to "unlock" the full power of the PSP's processor, which is not the same as the RAM or overclocking. In the PSP's case the processor has always been capable of (I believe) 333mhz, but has been limited to 233mhz in order to conserve battery power. It is not the same as overclocking, which would alienate all current PS3 owners.
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Where's the new 360 processor? I'm hoping for that along the price drop and less faulty hardware.
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[QUOTE="pridetwo"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I don't get the point of this, we all know Sony isn't going to overclock anything because it alienatesover 3.5million users so why bother posting about it?PBSnipes

because that didnt happen with the psp's RAM???

I assume you're talking about how people have discovered how to "unlock" the full power of the PSP's processor, which is not the same as the RAM or overclocking. In the PSP's case the processor has always been capable of (I believe) 333mhz, but has been limited to 233mhz in order to conserve battery power. It is not the same as overclocking, which would alienate all current PS3 owners.

Umm actually unlocking the processor for more power is exactly the same thing as overclocking. In fact did you know that most processors are almost always made from the same die with the less powered ones with minor flaws and multiplier locks. Overclocking doesn't alienate anyone as long as the Dev's don't developed for an overclocked system.

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#19 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

SambaLele

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.



Denial like thatis a sickness. I could point you to a psychiatrist if you want. lol

lol!

so true! there are some ppl here that make their console their religion... that's sick!

lol Like you dont Dam Cows these days and, plus atleast MS fixes them for you unlike Sony.

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#20 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

A_Gamerz_soul

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.

Well looking at the faulty percentage of xbox 360's I would say they need more help then ps3's.

OWNED (thanx man)

:lol:

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With the console already costing ALOT to produce, even tho the GPU was clocked down 50Mhz, it could be bumped up to 550Mhz again, who knows. I dont believe it will happen.
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#22 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Naw its the PS3s Hardware spces that need help not the 360s.
KillaHalo2o9

really...care to explain?

Games both on the PS3 and, 360 Run better on the Xbox360 Framerates

Xbox360 Polygon count 500 million Tri Per Sec PS3 Polygon Count 275/333.3Milion Tri Per Sec Higher the # faster display time.

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I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

A_Gamerz_soul
I thought the cell chips were already 65nm.
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="pridetwo"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I don't get the point of this, we all know Sony isn't going to overclock anything because it alienatesover 3.5million users so why bother posting about it?dlp21

because that didnt happen with the psp's RAM???

I assume you're talking about how people have discovered how to "unlock" the full power of the PSP's processor, which is not the same as the RAM or overclocking. In the PSP's case the processor has always been capable of (I believe) 333mhz, but has been limited to 233mhz in order to conserve battery power. It is not the same as overclocking, which would alienate all current PS3 owners.

Umm actually unlocking the processor for more power is exactly the same thing as overclocking. In fact did you know that most processors are almost always made from the same die with the less powered ones with minor flaws and multiplier locks. Overclocking doesn't alienate anyone as long as the Dev's don't developed for an overclocked system.

The difference between the PSP and overclocking is that the PSP has always been a 333mhz processor, it has been designed to run at that speed. The PS3 hardware has not been designed to run at overclocked speeds, and therefore any overclocking could cause problems. And while overclocking technically doesn't alienate anyone because the developers wouldn't develop for the overclocked models, it defeats the purpose of Sony themselves overclocking the models. Why bother with the possible heating and other overclocknig related issues when there would be no real benefit.
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

KillaHalo2o9

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.



Denial like thatis a sickness. I could point you to a psychiatrist if you want. lol

lol!

so true! there are some ppl here that make their console their religion... that's sick!

lol Like you dont Dam Cows these days and, plus atleast MS fixes them for you unlike Sony.

what is there needing to get fixed again? the PS3?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=806

http://www.fastsilicon.com/latest-news/microsoft-admits-all-xbox360s-are-defective.html?Itemid=60

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40658

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40933

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40703

and you say "at least they admit the mistake! Sony wouldn't do that!" but if you remember the lithium batteries issue, Sony didn't just give everyone an extended warranty, they recalled all units and gave them new flawless ones!

If you're talking about the hardware itself, then why are multiplats beginning to look better on the PS3 more and more? must have nothing to do with devs learning how to tap out the hardware...

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#26 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Naw its the PS3s Hardware spces that need help not the 360s.
KillaHalo2o9

really...care to explain?

Games both on the PS3 and, 360 Run better on the Xbox360 Framerates

Xbox360 Polygon count 500 million Tri Per Sec PS3 Polygon Count 275/333.3Milion Tri Per Sec Higher the # faster display time.

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The difference between the PSP and overclocking is that the PSP has always been a 333mhz processor, it has been designed to run at that speed. The PS3 hardware has not been designed to run at overclocked speeds, and therefore any overclocking could cause problems. And while overclocking technically doesn't alienate anyone because the developers wouldn't develop for the overclocked models, it defeats the purpose of Sony themselves overclocking the models. Why bother with the possible heating and other overclocknig related issues when there would be no real benefit.PBSnipes

Once again I would like to point out that most processors are underclocked. Also, many processors are not meant to be overclocked but they are. Now I agree that it is pointless for Sony to OC the models, but some homebrewers might want to give it a whirl. It would be nice to see what we can really get out of one these processors, just to know.

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

I know this is all nerd talk but when the ps3 cell chip becomes 65nm, which is cheaper and more efficent, you know there woould be headway for overclocking. I know that the ps3 chips wont but since they already run efficently and without problems, u could therotically overclock the cell on the ps3.

Not that it will do any good because games will still be ms ade with the 90nm in mind and if sony were to overclock the new one, it would totally abandon the user base it has now. And even if they were to have an online patch doing so, it could cause problems with the 90nm ones, but i wonder how overclockable the rsx is, hmm.

Anyways its just a thought, isint it funny that systems are more and more like complicated pcs.

I would say the same about the 65nm 360s, but that would only keep it from not dying on owners :P

SambaLele

Naw its the PS3s Hardware specs that need help not the 360s.



Denial like thatis a sickness. I could point you to a psychiatrist if you want. lol

lol!

so true! there are some ppl here that make their console their religion... that's sick!

lol Like you dont Dam Cows these days and, plus atleast MS fixes them for you unlike Sony.

what is there needing to get fixed again? the PS3?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=806

http://www.fastsilicon.com/latest-news/microsoft-admits-all-xbox360s-are-defective.html?Itemid=60

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40658

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40933

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40703

and you say "at least they admit the mistake! Sony wouldn't do that!" but if you remember the lithium batteries issue, Sony didn't just give everyone an extended warranty, they recalled all units and gave them new flawless ones!

If you're talking about the hardware itself, then why are multiplats beginning to look better on the PS3 more and more? must have nothing to do with devs learning how to tap out the hardware...

Nice links

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#29 KillaHalo2o9
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Man I bought my 360 in June 2 of this year from Costco should I go return it?
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#30 Vaizard34
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Man I bought my 360 in June 2 of this year from Costco should I go return it?
KillaHalo2o9

Yeah and get a PS3 while you're there. You'll be much better off.

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I would like to know,how the hell a Liquid Cooling system would even fit in a ps3 :lol:
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#32 A_Gamerz_soul
Member since 2007 • 239 Posts

Man I bought my 360 in June 2 of this year from Costco should I go return it?
KillaHalo2o9

hell mother---kin yes, wait for gta to come out and make a graphic comparison between each system, if the ps3 version is better or at least as good as the 360s, get that one, thats what im waiting for my next console purchase.