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#1 _Pinbot_
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I was appaled to see that GS has given Empire Total War, one of the greatest games of all time an 8.5. This is total bull**** and nothing else. This is proof that GS has now become one of the worst reviewers of videogames on the internet. For shame.

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#2 millerlight89
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It's Gamespot, what do you expect. It misses its mark yet again.
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#4 jonesy1911
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8.5 is a superb score, wtf is wrong with people these days.
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... Their complaints seemed legitimate to me.. Performance problems and AI problems.. You should be thankful those are the problems because you A) may not have the performance problem or B) even if you do future patches would fix that.. So who cares what the game got..
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#6 death919
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I use IGN for review scores mostly but when I look at GS scores I usually add 1 to them to compare them to the rest so yeah 9.5 is a pretty awesome score.
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#7 Jackboot343
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8.5 = Great

Maybe I'm crazy though.

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#8 _Pinbot_
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We already have a thread for this right on the first page, Pinbot.AlexSays

Didn't see it at the time of my post.

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#9 crazymaghie123
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8.5 is great but when compared to other games receiving higher scores it really misses the mark...anyways Gamespot sucks for reviews anyways..

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#10 iam2green
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8.5 if s a good score. Sometimes i like to adjust t he score when viewing it.
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#11 Cherokee_Jack
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8.5 is a superb score, wtf is wrong with people these days.jonesy1911
Last I checked, 9 was "superb".
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#12 Abicus7
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Gamespot should just give every game a 10.

then we can all be happy.:roll:

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... Their complaints seemed legitimate to me.. Performance problems and AI problems.. You should be thankful those are the problems because you A) may not have the performance problem or B) even if you do future patches would fix that.. So who cares what the game got..sSubZerOo

I personally have had zero issues with the game whatsoever. Seems to me the review is simply there to create anarchy. It seems to be working as well. In any case, reviewing a game based on system requirements = bad idea. Why not downgrade every console game due to the fact that most are ran at 30fps and still have slowdown? They don't degrade for that yet degrade for stuff like this. It's unacceptable.

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Kevin VanOrd - A master among trolls.
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#15 _Pinbot_
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Gamespot should just give every game a 10.

then we can all be happy.:roll:

Abicus7
No, they shouldn't. But when a game is the scale of Empire Total War with the fantastic gameplay and stunning graphics and 8.5 is wrong. If you played the game, you would understand.
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#16 wooooode
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You do relize most places are giving around the same score right?
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#17 _Pinbot_
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You do relize most places are giving around the same score right?wooooode
Really? All I see are 9.5 and 10's.
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#18 AlexSays
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You do realize most places are giving around the same score right?wooooode
It's the lowest score out of more than 20 reviews. They're "around" the same score, but all consistently higher.
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#19 millerlight89
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Performance issues, you really can't complain unless you have a good computer and it runs like crap, if your computer blows well thats all you. Also to Woooooode most are giving it in the 9.
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[QUOTE="jonesy1911"]8.5 is a superb score, wtf is wrong with people these days.Cherokee_Jack
Last I checked, 9 was "superb".

If you take it in the literal sense then yes it is, but you being abit of a peanut had to try and make me look daft so here goes, an 8.5 is a superb score there is nothing wrong with that, but to you anthing below a 9 is not superb. When I said superb I wasn't using the small word under the actual score I was stating that the OP was making a fuss out of nothing as 8.5 is a score to be proud of. So politely JOG ON.
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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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You do relize most places are giving around the same score right?wooooode
Most sites are giving a 9. On SW, there's a big difference between a 9 and an 8.5.
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#22 fugwit
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8.5 is the new 8.8
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#23 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

Gamespot should just give every game a 10.

then we can all be happy.:roll:

_Pinbot_

No, they shouldn't. But when a game is the scale of Empire Total War with the fantastic gameplay and stunning graphics and 8.5 is wrong. If you played the game, you would understand.

Its a review, the reviewers opinion, he decides to him its worth an 8.5, get over it, there is no right score for a game.

freaking fanboys and there "OMG this game i love only got X score wah wah waaaah", its pathetic.

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#24 wooooode
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]You do relize most places are giving around the same score right?_Pinbot_
Really? All I see are 9.5 and 10's.

Well most respectable sources are giving 9 which is higher, but you cant say 9.5 -10 because those are sources that give everything to high of scores and group every medicore game in with the elite games.
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#25 Abicus7
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last time I checked, 8.5 is a pretty good score.. its not like they gave it a 5.5

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]... Their complaints seemed legitimate to me.. Performance problems and AI problems.. You should be thankful those are the problems because you A) may not have the performance problem or B) even if you do future patches would fix that.. So who cares what the game got..Stealthmaniac05

I personally have had zero issues with the game whatsoever. Seems to me the review is simply there to create anarchy. It seems to be working as well. In any case, reviewing a game based on system requirements = bad idea. Why not downgrade every console game due to the fact that most are ran at 30fps and still have slowdown? They don't degrade for that yet degrade for stuff like this. It's unacceptable.

YOU Personally... that does not equate to every one... And going beyond recommended specs does not mean you are garenteed to run the game, many of people have been getting TERRIBLE performance with top of the line machines... Furthermore I have seen the AI do some sketchy stuff on the Battle field.. Calavry charges namely, or pathfinding problems.. ... That makes no sense on the second part, they do minus points if there is considerable slow down, but rarely in a game is there due to how easy it is to optemized compared to the pc.. Stop whining, its a great score and it will be made a 9.0 to 9.5 game when patches are released for the people who have performance problem and the AI problems.
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#27 ActicEdge
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:roll: Wow, an 8.5 is so bad. For same gamespot, you have no credibility for giving a game a GREAT score. Just throw out constant AAA like everyone else, that'll earn you respect.

Seriously, so much crying over .5 off what yoy wanted. Gamespot and you disagree,. Don't make it sound like they are wrong and you are right. When you have your own review scale, and write reviews to multiple games, then you can cry. Until then, you disagree with there score, no more than that.

I swear the people on SW are all about the conspiracy theories.

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#28 Cherokee_Jack
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last time I checked, 8.5 is a pretty good score.. its not like they gave it a 5.5

Abicus7
It's not like pretty much every respectable source was giving it a 9. Oh, wait.
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#29 _Pinbot_
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[QUOTE="_Pinbot_"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

Gamespot should just give every game a 10.

then we can all be happy.:roll:

warmaster670

No, they shouldn't. But when a game is the scale of Empire Total War with the fantastic gameplay and stunning graphics and 8.5 is wrong. If you played the game, you would understand.

Its a review, the reviewers opinion, he decides to him its worth an 8.5, get over it, there is no right score for a game.

freaking fanboys and there "OMG this game i love only got X score wah wah waaaah", its pathetic.

Yes, but when the reviewer seems to constantly have a different opinion than the majority of the population then something seems a bit strange. The job is to give an honest and unbiased opinion of the game.

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#30 Abicus7
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

last time I checked, 8.5 is a pretty good score.. its not like they gave it a 5.5

Cherokee_Jack

It's not like pretty much every respectable source was giving it a 9. Oh, wait.

So your getting PO'd about 0.5 points... ok.

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#31 Cherokee_Jack
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:roll: Wow, an 8.5 is so bad. For same gamespot, you have no credibility for giving a game a GREAT score. Just throw out constant AAA like everyone else, that'll earn you respect.

Seriously, so much crying over .5 off what yoy wanted. Gamespot and you disagree,. Don't make it sound like they are wrong and you are right. When you have your own review scale, and write reviews to multiple games, then you can cry. Until then, you disagree with there score, no more than that.

I swear the people on SW are all about the conspiracy theories.

ActicEdge
Well, maybe you'll change your tune when MadWorld gets a 7.5. Just a .5 difference, you know.
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#33 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

last time I checked, 8.5 is a pretty good score.. its not like they gave it a 5.5

Abicus7

It's not like pretty much every respectable source was giving it a 9. Oh, wait.

So your getting PO'd about 0.5 points... ok.

.5 points is important here. The PC could have had another AAAE, but now it doesn't.
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#34 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

last time I checked, 8.5 is a pretty good score.. its not like they gave it a 5.5

It's not like pretty much every respectable source was giving it a 9. Oh, wait.

yeah why the hell didn't gamespot stick to conformity instead of voicing their own opinions..
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#35 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="_Pinbot_"] No, they shouldn't. But when a game is the scale of Empire Total War with the fantastic gameplay and stunning graphics and 8.5 is wrong. If you played the game, you would understand._Pinbot_

Its a review, the reviewers opinion, he decides to him its worth an 8.5, get over it, there is no right score for a game.

freaking fanboys and there "OMG this game i love only got X score wah wah waaaah", its pathetic.

Yes, but when the reviewer seems to constantly have a different opinion than the majority of the population then something seems a bit strange. The job is to give an honest and unbiased opinion of the game.

So opinions are not allowed to differ, what makes you think he isn't being honest with his review (because more people gave the game a higher score?) lay of the ice bruv.
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#36 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

It's not like pretty much every respectable source was giving it a 9. Oh, wait.Cherokee_Jack

So your getting PO'd about 0.5 points... ok.

.5 points is important here. The PC could have had another AAAE, but now it doesn't.

I feel sorry for you.. As a pc gamer, I could care less of "bragging rights" in system wars.. But to you it seems like its extremely important..
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#37 _Pinbot_
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[QUOTE="_Pinbot_"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

Its a review, the reviewers opinion, he decides to him its worth an 8.5, get over it, there is no right score for a game.

freaking fanboys and there "OMG this game i love only got X score wah wah waaaah", its pathetic.

jonesy1911

Yes, but when the reviewer seems to constantly have a different opinion than the majority of the population then something seems a bit strange. The job is to give an honest and unbiased opinion of the game.

So opinions are not allowed to differ, what makes you think he isn't being honest with his review (because more people gave the game a higher score?) lay of the ice bruv.

Yes opinions are allowed to differ. But when there is one person out of the pack, it is obvious they are just craving attention.
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#38 Master-Thief-09
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8.5 is a superb score, wtf is wrong with people these days.jonesy1911
AA = great. AAA = superb. Look at some of the games that got AAA this gen, ETW should [easily] have been AAA.
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#39 Toriko42
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I'm not going to complain, going through the review I think he justified it enough. God forbid someone on Gamespot peg a game down though I wish we still had the .1 system. I think it'd be 8.8-8.9 then.

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#40 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

So your getting PO'd about 0.5 points... ok.

sSubZerOo

.5 points is important here. The PC could have had another AAAE, but now it doesn't.

I feel sorry for you.. As a pc gamer, I could care less of "bragging rights" in system wars.. But to you it seems like its extremely important..

No, it's not very important to me. I'm just in System Wars for kicks, really. But as long as the rest of System Wars cares about Gamespot scores, I do too.

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[QUOTE="_Pinbot_"][QUOTE="wooooode"]You do relize most places are giving around the same score right?wooooode
Really? All I see are 9.5 and 10's.

Well most respectable sources are giving 9 which is higher, but you cant say 9.5 -10 because those are sources that give everything to high of scores and group every medicore game in with the elite games.

IGN gave 9.5 ,,,

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#42 anshul89
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omg it flopped :(

There's no way any cosole will get more high quality exclusives than the PC this gen so it doesn't matter anymore :P

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#43 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="jonesy1911"][QUOTE="_Pinbot_"]

Yes, but when the reviewer seems to constantly have a different opinion than the majority of the population then something seems a bit strange. The job is to give an honest and unbiased opinion of the game.

_Pinbot_

So opinions are not allowed to differ, what makes you think he isn't being honest with his review (because more people gave the game a higher score?) lay of the ice bruv.

Yes opinions are allowed to differ. But when there is one person out of the pack, it is obvious they are just craving attention.

No, hes being honest with his review, do you want him to bump it up to a 9 just so you can then say more nonsense about the man, deal with the score, if someone told you to jump off a cliff would you do so? just because others do one thing doesnt mean diddley, again deal with the GREAT 8.5.

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#44 RyuRanVII
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They should move Kevin-V to make console reviews. First Endwar getting 6 while console gets 7, and PC version has no problem at all. Now one of the best PC games released recently get's only 8,5? I understand why DoW II got 8,5, but Empire: Total War? Ok, the game has some flaws, but it deservers a 9 at least.

Gamespot is totally against PC Gaming lately... It's sad.

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#45 moose_knuckler
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8.5 is a superb score, wtf is wrong with people these days.jonesy1911
It all started when people whined about Killzone 2 should've been a 9.5 instead of 9......HA! First that, now this.
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#46 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="jonesy1911"]8.5 is a superb score, wtf is wrong with people these days.moose_knuckler
It all started when people whined about Killzone 2 should've been a 9.5 instead of 9......HA! First that, now this.

Not the same thing. KZ 2 still would have been AAA if it got 9.5, but ETW got bumped down a whole grade.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] .5 points is important here. The PC could have had another AAAE, but now it doesn't. Cherokee_Jack

I feel sorry for you.. As a pc gamer, I could care less of "bragging rights" in system wars.. But to you it seems like its extremely important..

No, it's not very important to me. I'm just in System Wars for kicks, really. But as long as the rest of System Wars cares about GS scores, I do to.

Yeah you know god forbid they do not conform.. Especially when their complaints can relatively be fixed easilly with a patch due to performance problems and AI problems.. Its a .5 difference who cares, this is crying because you think its a AAA..
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#48 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

:roll: Wow, an 8.5 is so bad. For same gamespot, you have no credibility for giving a game a GREAT score. Just throw out constant AAA like everyone else, that'll earn you respect.

Seriously, so much crying over .5 off what yoy wanted. Gamespot and you disagree,. Don't make it sound like they are wrong and you are right. When you have your own review scale, and write reviews to multiple games, then you can cry. Until then, you disagree with there score, no more than that.

I swear the people on SW are all about the conspiracy theories.

Cherokee_Jack

Well, maybe you'll change your tune when MadWorld gets a 7.5. Just a .5 difference, you know.

Yes, because I've played Madworld and know enough to review it myself :roll: Like I'm even going to buy Madworld. (shakes head)

Also, 7.5 is a good score, it says good underneath it. I've enjoyed games with lesser scores than 8.5 and not had to cry and shout bias about it. This is just funny, if you can't see it, well, good for you.

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#50 Brainhunter
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Gamespot reviews games based on their quality upon release : even for PC games. I admire this attitude, as I expect a retail PC title to be fully playable the moment I install it on my PC. If patches delivered by the development team is required to render the game even in a "playable state", then the game will be penalized in Gamespot's review. This is also the main reason why the launch of "The Witcher" failed to get an AAA on Gamespot (and many other websites), due to poor optimization for many people's PCs. Just assume the game is an AAA, if the problems are resolved, lol.