8GB GDDR5- A Marketing Slogan?

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]

When will  people realise that 30 fps or 60 fps is a design choice.

All CoD games are 60 fps yet their graphics are crap. Compare to Killzone 2 and 3 that were 30 fps and better graphics, physics and whatnot better than CoD. Sacrifice must be made.

 

Forza 5 looks awesome but they made lots of cut backs. Static lightning, no night racing, no weather, etc whereas, Drive Club has all those features.

 

ALL GAMES can be 60 fps if a developer wants it to be, just that sacrifices will be made.

MightyMuna

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

Cloud integration allows for many things, perhaps an infinite amount of things that I cannot cover. Essentially, a cloud is just a massive powerful group of servers that any X1 game dev can use on the fly. They can store any sort of information they want there, for any reason, at any time.

Sunset Overdrive is going to use the cloud to run a persistant always updating world with new quests and weapons coming in on the fly. Titanfall is using it for AI code, so is Forza. In fact Forza uses the cloud to actively study how you drive so it can replicate it in your friends games when you arent online. The possibilities are endless and all up to the devs. The X1 also uses its mighty servers to have full dedicated server support for all games.

Crypt_mx

Cloud BS. Apparently clouds don't exist and don't do these things. I can't believe you're buying in to sony so hard you can't do research. Internet is going to get faster and faster over time man. Clouds are only getting backed by bigger and stronger servers. Its the future. If you are going to argue that the future is NOT cloud based...then ur just....dumb.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

To make it simple enough for you to understand, ANY advantage PS4 has over X1 cows will brag about and vice versa.

But this thread is talking about marketing GIMMICKS from Sony.

Explain how RAM has been used as one..

 

 

I'll wait.

tagyhag

But the Cell was the MOST talked about, I was here. By both Sony and Cows. Sony said a LOT of bullshit that following E3 that ended up being just lies.

And you're right, this thread is for Sony even though I did primarily talk about Cows because that's what they do. That said, no one here can say with a 100% certainy that Sony is/is not using GDDR5 marketing wise.

I will just stick with knowing that Sony is a corporation and corporations are about making money without giving a sh*t about their customers and marketing does come into that goal.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

To make it simple enough for you to understand, ANY advantage PS4 has over X1 cows will brag about and vice versa.

But this thread is talking about marketing GIMMICKS from Sony.

Explain how RAM has been used as one..

 

 

I'll wait.

tagyhag

But the Cell was the MOST talked about, I was here. By both Sony and Cows. Sony said a LOT of bullshit that following E3 that ended up being just lies.

And you're right, this thread is for Sony even though I did primarily talk about Cows because that's what they do. That said, no one here can say with a 100% certainy that Sony is/is not using GDDR5 marketing wise.

I will just stick with knowing that Sony is a corporation and corporations are about making money without giving a sh*t about their customers and marketing does come into that goal.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]

When will  people realise that 30 fps or 60 fps is a design choice.

All CoD games are 60 fps yet their graphics are crap. Compare to Killzone 2 and 3 that were 30 fps and better graphics, physics and whatnot better than CoD. Sacrifice must be made.

 

Forza 5 looks awesome but they made lots of cut backs. Static lightning, no night racing, no weather, etc whereas, Drive Club has all those features.

 

ALL GAMES can be 60 fps if a developer wants it to be, just that sacrifices will be made.

tagyhag

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"HOW IS 8GB GDDR5 RAM A MARKETING GIMMICK? Stay on topichiphops_savior

HOW IS 8GB GDDR5 RAM A MARKETING GIMMICK? Stay on topic

Douevenlift_bro

I read Slogan on the title and that's what I'm basing this on.

There are many ways to go at it, and one of the most effective ways is developing a slogan.

is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?

hiphops_savior

The OP maybe be confused as to what he wants to say but I'm not. :P

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

I haven't seen any 8gb GDDR5 advertisements... seen plenty of talk about it.  Word of Mouth is sometimes better than large ad campaigns. 

 

Oh and GDDR5 is better than 3... so theres that too .

hiphops_savior

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"HOW IS 8GB GDDR5 RAM A MARKETING GIMMICK? Stay on topichiphops_savior

RAM is a huge piece to the puzzle, thats why PS4 also has a better GPU. All these give better performance.Please deny it?

RAM only gets you so far

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

HOW IS 8GB GDDR5 RAM A MARKETING GIMMICK? Stay on topic

tagyhag

I read Slogan on the title and that's what I'm basing this on.

There are many ways to go at it, and one of the most effective ways is developing a slogan.

is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?

hiphops_savior

The OP maybe be confused as to what he wants to say but I'm not. :P

RAM only gets you so far

lostrib

Everybody understands this

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

RAM only gets you so far

Douevenlift_bro

Everybody understands this

better GPU would be more important

I mean, at the end of the day I can say I'm happy the higher shader performance and RAM are real things as opposed to CLOUD

Douevenlift_bro

Yes. The Cloud is a bunch of shit until I see some real performance out of it.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

RAM only gets you so far

lostrib

Everybody understands this

better GPU would be more important

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

I read Slogan on the title and that's what I'm basing this on.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] There are many ways to go at it, and one of the most effective ways is developing a slogan.

is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?

Douevenlift_bro

The OP maybe be confused as to what he wants to say but I'm not. :P

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

I mean, at the end of the day I can say I'm happy the higher shader performance and RAM are real things as opposed to CLOUD

tagyhag

Yes. The Cloud is a bunch of shit until I see some real performance out of it.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"HOW IS 8GB GDDR5 RAM A MARKETING GIMMICK? Stay on topicDouevenlift_bro

RAM is a huge piece to the puzzle, thats why PS4 also has a better GPU. All these give better performance.Please deny it?

Does the sum of the PS4 architecture add up to a better experience, or is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?hiphops_savior

How is RAM a marketing gimmick?R3FURBISHED

Reading comprehension and System Wars don't mix.

Critical thinking is a pipe dream at this point.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] There is much more to an architecture than RAM. So far, gameplay videos of Shadow Fall and Drive Club does not back up the promise that GDDR5 would create a better experience.hiphops_savior

RAM is a huge piece to the puzzle, thats why PS4 also has a better GPU. All these give better performance.Please deny it?

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]How is RAM a marketing gimmick?lowkey254

GDDR5 = Teh Cell (and we all know how that turned out)

In other words: GIMMICK

PS4 and XBOX ONE graphics and performance will be identical.

end /thread

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Does the sum of the PS4 architecture add up to a better experience, or is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?AmazonTreeBoa

GDDR5 = Teh Cell (and we all know how that turned out)

In other words: GIMMICK

PS4 and XBOX ONE graphics and performance will be identical.

end /thread

Baurus_1

Teh Cloud=Teh Cell

RAM is one part of the system. The GPU itself needs to be powerful enough to push the graphics on the screen, for example a 7790 2GB will struggle to produce the graphics of a 7870 1GB. The PS4 RAM amount and speed is very impressive, but maybe there's a point where RAM amount hits a ceiling of usefulness because the card can only do so much, also there is the OS reserve and CPU usage of that same RAM, so even if it's a 50/50 split in a game, you're looking at 3GB of VRAM, the same amount in current high end cards like the, which already do way better than the 7850/70 in the PS4.

Still, the PS4 graphics power is unquestionably better than XBone's. We'll see how that translates in actual games though, it will come down to what the lead platform is. My guess it's like the PS2-Xbox or PS1-N64 scenario, where developers put the PS2 code in the Xbox and it just ran faster due to sheer brute force.

Also, both consoles' CPUs are not very impressive, even with the core count. A core i5 or even Core i3 from Ivy or Haswell will rival or beat it, certainly in single core performance, and the i5 in everything really, nevermind an i7. Those CPUs have not only higher clocks, but Intel CPUs do more than AMD's at the same clock speed. Wii U's CPU clock doesn't seem so out of this generation now in this context.

did sony tout 8gb gddr5 at anytime during their e3 conference? No, do sony developers tout GDDR5 when asked about the games they are making no. It's not a marketing slogan, casuals don't usually care about the technology that powers their systems. Now the xb1 and cloud is a marketing strategy because in every conference and interview it comes up. 

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Does the sum of the PS4 architecture add up to a better experience, or is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?hiphops_savior

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Does the sum of the PS4 architecture add up to a better experience, or is the 8GB of GDDR5 nothing more than a marketing gimmick?hiphops_savior

GDDR5 is the next emotion engine & cell. 

now i remember why system wars has fallen apartstereointegrity

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Better experience.xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] Until I see the results, best not to jump to conclusions.hiphops_savior

all those jaggies, low res textures, last gen lighting lol of course it can hit 1080p at 60 fps, the graphics are **** awful, next gen games have like 8x more graphical assets then that shit