$99 hddvd sold 90,000 in three days

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#1 wiiwillwiiwill
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http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6498141.html

The HD DVD format significantly pumped its installed base over the weekend, as dueling store clearances sold an estimated 90,000 Toshiba players, according to sources close to retailers.

That tally covers Friday to Sunday sales of Toshiba's second-generation HD-A2 model, which Wal-Mart and Best Buy sold for about $99 on Nov. 2. That's $200 less than Toshiba's $299 list price and $100 off widespread retail pricing of $199.

The $99 players made up most of the 90,000 units sold, a source said.

Within three days, Toshiba corralled nearly as many sales as the best-selling stand-alone Blu-ray Disc player has sold since its launch. Sony's dominant Blu-ray set-top, the $499 BDP-S300, has shipped about 100,000 since it bowed this summer.

However, the Blu-ray format still retains the largest overall installation base, due largely to the millions of PlayStation 3 hardware sold.

In fact, the 90,000 figure for HD-A2 sales could be even higher, as it doesn't appear to include all retailer information. The figure does span consumer activity on HD-A2s at Wal-Mart, Best Buy and Circuit City, among others.

Best Buy also shaved $100 off Toshiba's $299 third-generation player, the HD-A3, Friday through Sunday. At deadline, a Best Buy spokesman did not provide updated sales on the HD-A3.

Toshiba and the HD DVD Promotional Group also declined comment.

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#2 Chutebox
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Good numbers for HD DVD camp. We'll see if it makesa difference though.
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I hope this forces sony to lower the price of blu-ray.. that way there can be a price war in HD disks... and who wins :D afcourse the customers....

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Does anyone else find it strange that a movie format may decide the fate of the console wars this generation?
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#5 omgimba
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Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

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#6 Chutebox
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Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

omgimba

Yea, it's really not close lol

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Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

omgimba

link?????

ps3 only sold less than 300 million in US, how can you claim blue-ray sold 7 million?????

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#8 OremLK
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Wish I had known about this, I would've picked up an HD-DVD player instead of a couple of games I bought.
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#9 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

wiiwillwiiwill

link?????

ps3 only sold less than 300 million in US, how can you claim blue-ray sold 7 million?????

300 million? What the hell are you talking about? And I'm sure he's talking about world wide.

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#10 omgimba
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[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

wiiwillwiiwill

link?????

ps3 only sold less than 300 million in US, how can you claim blue-ray sold 7 million?????

Lol.. These figures where fabricated too put things into perspective.. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong, the message is still true..

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#11 wiiwillwiiwill
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[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

Chutebox

link?????

ps3 only sold less than 300 million in US, how can you claim blue-ray sold 7 million?????

300 million? What the hell are you talking about? And I'm sure he's talking about world wide.

ok, but how about hddvd only 500k userbase????

post a link to prove

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#12 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

wiiwillwiiwill

link?????

ps3 only sold less than 300 million in US, how can you claim blue-ray sold 7 million?????

300 million? What the hell are you talking about? And I'm sure he's talking about world wide.

ok, but how about hddvd only 500k userbase????

post a link to prove

I didn't claim that and I don't have a link. But blu ray base is far higher than HD DVD.

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The difference is that these 90,000 people (if the number is to be believed) bought the units with the sole purpose of watching high def movies.

If anecdotal evidence is to be believed,many PS3 owners aren't even aware that they can watch Blu Ray on their console.

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[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Maybe HD-DVD sold a total of 500k then or so!

Compared too some around 7 million blu ray players.

Chutebox

link?????

ps3 only sold less than 300 million in US, how can you claim blue-ray sold 7 million?????

300 million? What the hell are you talking about? And I'm sure he's talking about world wide.

ok, but how about hddvd only 500k userbase????

post a link to prove

I didn't claim that and I don't have a link. But blu ray base is far higher than HD DVD.

lol... somebody bought a hd dvd.... somebody is worrying

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I have a feeling neither format will die once cheap dual format players are released. When that happens, Universal, Paramount/Dreamworks will stick to HD-DVD and Sony, Fox, Disney, MGM and Lionsgate will stick to Blu-Ray. Neutral studios like New Line and Warner at this point can either chose a side they prefer, or continue doing both formats... doesn't really matter since dual format players mean everyone has access to either format.
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saying that this doesnt matter because blu ray has a lead is retarded. Thats like saying it doesnt matter how many PS3's sell becaus the 360 has the lead. I think that this is major in the HD format war.
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Does anyone else find it strange that a movie format may decide the fate of the console wars this generation?DeliriumGlo

I dont find it strange at all, its all a part of Sony's big hustle to create a format standard (use the PS3 to tout overall format sales!!!). In the past consoles relied on their own proprietary format for games, only Sony made "other" media maintstream in console gaming. At that time Sony had the industry on its side due the industry tiring of the big bully tactics of Ninty. But this gen the industry is not onboard 100% the "Blu-ray for gaming" bandwagon, only Sony supporters which is why the format war is still in progress with no clear winner....

Game On...

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The difference is that these 90,000 people (if the number is to be believed) bought the units with the sole purpose of watching high def movies.

If anecdotal evidence is to be believed,many PS3 owners aren't even aware that they can watch Blu Ray on their console.

mruurds

And yet blu-ray disc sales are completely contrary to this claim.

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The difference is that these 90,000 people (if the number is to be believed) bought the units with the sole purpose of watching high def movies.

If anecdotal evidence is to be believed,many PS3 owners aren't even aware that they can watch Blu Ray on their console.

mruurds

Between the people that bought ps3 as a dedicated player (it is still one of the best) because it was the cheapest for a long time, and ps3 gamers that watch bluray, i would estimate that between a quarter and a third of ps3 owners purchase blu-ray movies.

I would also estimate another quarter to a third dont give a s**t, and the remaining half/third are completely clueless.

Based on the current install base, that means there are around half a million ps3 owners that purchase movies. Add another 200,000 max for standalone players giving around 0.7m bluray fanatics.

Now HDDVD standalones sell quite well, so lets say 300,000 have been sold, plus another 150,000-200,000 xbox add ons. Add the 90,000 just sold and we arrive at around 540,000- 590,000 hddvd fanatics.

Given the ratio of ownage applied to hddvd fanboys by bluray fanboys in terms of movie sales, either my estimate for bluray is too low, or the estimate for hddvd is too high. BUT if we remove the 90,000 sold this week, as they haven't had any affect on movie sales yet, there are 450,000 - 500,000 hddvd fanboys vs 700,000 - 750,000 bluray fanboys.

This compares favourably to the ratio of movie sales on both formats.

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hd dvd still exists?
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system wars not format wars people
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I picked up the $99 toshiba hd-dvd player and Transformers HD-DVD at Wal-Mart last Friday. Good Stuff.
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#23 ByFly
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I picked up the $99 toshiba hd-dvd player and Transformers HD-DVD at Wal-Mart last Friday. Good Stuff.joe_g_patton

man you are making me jealous :(

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#24 cosmostein77
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The longer both formats exist the less and less of a factor the PS3 advantage will be,

As stand alone players get cheaper and sell more the 360/PS3 players will become less of a factor, HD-DVD is doing an excellent job of hanging on.

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#25 blackace
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hd dvd still exists?humber_matus

Yup, it's not going anywhere anytime soon. If M$ actually includes the HD-DVD in their next XBox 360 SKU, the battle is going to get really interesting. I don't see either format leaving the market within the next year. I'm still waiting for a quality "dual player" to get released. I heard the LG dual player was crap, so I have to wait and see what comes next.

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#26 Warfust
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The death of the war will be cheap dual format players. HD-DVD will win in the long run ONLY because the disks are cheaper to make. Though I predict that Blu-Ray finds a market in the PC world due to it's capacity, but at $50 a disk for RAM type it's still too expensive for now.
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#27 cod4ownzzz
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system wars not format wars peopleblue_hazy_basic

The fanboys sound exactly the same. Folloe the link below and you'll find the exact same behaviour:

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43

The only difference is that their forums are called SMACKDOWN lol!!