A Blu-Ray victory; Effecting the next Xbox how?

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#1 ToScA-
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We've all heard the latest news; it seems as if Blu-Ray will become the new standard.

I have absolutely no problem with that as long as it benefits our dear game developers. However, I'm concerned about how this might affect Microsoft new Xbox. By the time Xbox "720" releases I think people will expect HD to be pretty much a standard among consoles those days. Not only for gaming reasons, but for film-watching as well.

In order to benefit the demands of the developers of the next generation, Microsoft (as well as any other console manufacturer) will probably have to abandon the DVD format and settle for a format that allows for High Definition gaming. A result of games becoming more demanding and requiring more space mostly due to the introduction of High Definition.

Microsoft can still use HD-DVD as a format to live up to these demands; however, these days it seems as if the general public want a console to be able to playback films. Therefore, HD-DVD losing the format war would be distatrous to Microsoft if the intension is indeed for the next Xbox to use a HD-DVD-drive. Unless Microsoft has another solution? Perhaps I myself have missed something, if so...fill me in.

In conclusion, I think Microsoft will need a HD disc format (to live up to the increasing demands of games), but at the same time this very format needs to be compatible with the discs of whatever format wins the format wars in order to satisfy public demand.

However, looking at Nintendo and their Gamecube, it seems as if they've been able to survive a whole generation without satisfying the latter demand. However, the sales of the console were pretty distant if compared to how the Playstation 2 (which did satisfy this demand) performed sales-wise. Still, Nintendo did rather well. But how will Nintendo perform in a generation that will probably be far more disc format dependant than the previous generation ever was?

I hope this is the correct forum to discuss this since whatever outcome of the format wars will affect the future systems in some way or another.

Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? Please share.

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#2 game_fanatic
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personlly don't think the xbox using blu'ray would make a damn difference to anything except maybe quality of games.
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#3 nikolajz1
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Effecting

Although it could be affecting if the Lems started crying. Haha

But seriously I dont think Blu Ray's success hurts MSFT. If you remember a while ago there was a poll and 60% of consumers who bought a PS3 didnt know it had blu-ray. DVD is not dead yet and as long as it isnt Microsoft should be fine.

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#4 darkplayer
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Theres a thread on this on the same page with 80+ replies.

Look next time before posting

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#5 Jack-o-Thompson
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what if microsoft added a blu ray drive for the next xbox, whats wrong with that?
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#6 ToScA-
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Theres a thread on this on the same page with 80+ replies.

Look next time before posting

darkplayer

Wow, didn't see it at all ;/

what if microsoft added a blu ray drive for the next xbox, whats wrong with that?Jack-o-Thompson

Because Sony and their products are competition.

Ah well, sorry mods, might as well delete this thread.

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#7 Bazfrag
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Its system wars, not format wars, but i cant see any other option for ms other than blueray in the next xbox. I think next gen will be too soon to go completely dl only games and films, and with major film studios jumping ship from hd-dvd it seems inevitable. I dont think ms is too bothered, apart from having to pay sony for the drives.

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#8 TREAL_Since
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Blu-Ray will be in the next XBOX as well as the PS4. Heck the Wii 2 may have it too. By that time BR will be as cheap as DVD is today.

This doesn't really effect the next XBOX in a bad way, but cows can somehow claim ownage since I've sen alot of Lems say that BluRay will fail and that it is not needed. It looks like BluRay will be a main factor in Sony's success. Kudos Sony :).

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#9 wemhim
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Why not just use Blu-Ray? They don't need to use something else...
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#10 supras989
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guys giuys guys it all seams simple for microsoft to put in a blu ray drive but sony owns a part of blu ray, is sony going to give there next console the ability to use blu ray, that is the question but what is the answer?

this will very much affect the development of the next xbox
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#11 wemhim
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guys giuys guys it all seams simple for microsoft to put in a blu ray drive but sony owns a part of blu ray, is sony going to give there next console the ability to use blu ray, that is the question but what is the answer?

this will very much affect the development of the next xbox
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That's not an issue. Sony VAIO laptops and desktop PCs use Windows XP and Vista...
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Its system wars, not format wars, but i cant see any other option for ms other than blueray in the next xbox. I think next gen will be too soon to go completely dl only games and films, and with major film studios jumping ship from hd-dvd it seems inevitable. I dont think ms is too bothered, apart from having to pay sony for the drives.

Bazfrag

I'm well aware of that; but the outcome of the format wars will surely have tremendous effect on the systems.

Why not just use Blu-Ray? They don't need to use something else...wemhim

Because Sony and Microsoft compete against each other. Microsoft would probably have to pay some sort of royalties to Sony in order to use their technology in a console that competes against Sony and their console.

[QUOTE="supras989"]guys giuys guys it all seams simple for microsoft to put in a blu ray drive but sony owns a part of blu ray, is sony going to give there next console the ability to use blu ray, that is the question but what is the answer?

this will very much affect the development of the next xbox
wemhim
That's not an issue. Sony VAIO laptops and desktop PCs use Windows XP and Vista...

Might have something to do with the products being entirely different :|

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Bon appetite

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#14 Shazenab
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The new xbox will probably use blu-ray, but I'm a bit suspect on how much this will acttually change gaming. Ok, ok, there is more room for high-res textures, but the main appeal of blu ray [for a lot of people] is the added content. Developers (and publishers)dont seem to have the time or money to take advatage of blu ray, and make LONGER gaming experiance.

Personally I thinkhigh res textures are second to more in depth gaming experiances.

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#15 wemhim
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[QUOTE="Bazfrag"]

Its system wars, not format wars, but i cant see any other option for ms other than blueray in the next xbox. I think next gen will be too soon to go completely dl only games and films, and with major film studios jumping ship from hd-dvd it seems inevitable. I dont think ms is too bothered, apart from having to pay sony for the drives.

ToScA-

I'm well aware of that; but the outcome of the format wars will surely have tremendous effect on the systems.

Why not just use Blu-Ray? They don't need to use something else...wemhim

Because Sony and Microsoft compete against each other. Microsoft would probably have to pay some sort of royalties to Sony in order to use their technology in a console that competes against Sony and their console.

[QUOTE="supras989"]guys giuys guys it all seams simple for microsoft to put in a blu ray drive but sony owns a part of blu ray, is sony going to give there next console the ability to use blu ray, that is the question but what is the answer?

this will very much affect the development of the next xbox
wemhim
That's not an issue. Sony VAIO laptops and desktop PCs use Windows XP and Vista...

Might have something to do with the products being entirely different :|

Sony use the VC-1 codec in Blu-Ray(MS owns it!). And Sony isn'y the only member of the board of directors... MS can use Blu-Ray just fine. Notice how EVERY single company uses DVD now? EVEN competitors of the original board.
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#16 toxicmog
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whats the blu ray to DVD sales ;)

Whats to say if people want either format and are happy with DVD :P I know i am ^^ Because...its damn cheap.

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#17 wemhim
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whats the blu ray to DVD sales ;)

Whats to say if people want either format and are happy with DVD :P I know i am ^^ Because...its damn cheap.

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Yes, because DVD beat VHS right away.
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#18 Drukter
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Because Sony and their products are competition.

ToScA-

Wrong. outside the gaming industry, the work togheter. Microsoft sells Sony Music Entertainment stuff on Live, Sony is using Windows, etc. Just because they're rivals in the gaming industry doesn't mean s***.

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#19 Blue-Sky
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How is BR going to be the next standard if it hasn't even touched DVD sales yet?

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#20 wemhim
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How is BR going to be the next standard if it hasn't even touched DVD sales yet?

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That's the reason why they say next...Just like DVD didn't touch VHS sales right away. In 1997, "Succesful" people owned DVD players.
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#21 Sumotaii
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By the time Blu Ray or HD DVD ever catches or caught on its to late. DVD took what 6 or 7 years to beat VHS? I just guess by time the technology gets cheap and even better there be a new format that does quite more anyway.

I'll be first to admit i really like the PS3 alot, and i don't even own one. I Got a a 360 for over a year and a Wii. I'm hooked on Resident Evil 4 Wii and well i play my few 360 games. Reason why i don't feel like doing the whole PS3 thing is im happy with Dvd although PS3 offers much more then anything else.

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#22 DeadMan1290
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Because Sony and their products are competition.

Ah well, sorry mods, might as well delete this thread.

ToScA-

Blu-Ray does NOT belong to Sony. They just invest in it. If MS wants THEY can invest in Blu-Ray also.