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#1 Sihanouk
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Take what you will out of this. Rockstar "Horrified" By Xbox 360... Wouldn't it suck, to be playing your favorite game and then have the console die on you? When will negative press about the 360 end? Because of the hardware issues the following seems clearer and clearer to me:

1. Microsoft will care about making profits than winning the console war. It most likely underestimated the reliability of its own console. As such, the 1 billion plus it set aside for RROD wasn't enough.

2. Microsoft will not win the console war. It will be the PS3 or the Wii.

3. Microsoft will not release the Blu-ray add on for the 360. I think I will most likely be right on this one. If microsoft releases the add-on, it risks increasing the anger towards RROD--its customers with RROD are now angry for not being to play games AND watch movies. It will impact Microsofts reputation when it releases the next Xbox. There are other reasons against Microsoft releasing the blu-ray add-on like: slowing the adoption of VOD, incrasing the value of the PS3, slow adoption of add-ons in general.

4. Starting november of 2008, when the 3 yr warranty starts to expire, a new round of negativity towards the 360 will occur. Microsoft will lose more money as a result, either from extending the warranty again (unlikely) or consumers having less interest in buying the 360 because of bad reputation.

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When did Rockstar become the greatest video game developer on the planet...?

If GTA 4 ran so bad on the 360 why would so much money be soaked into it...?

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Is it just me or is kotaku become slightly anti MS/360 lately?
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#4 Sihanouk
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Is it just me or is kotaku become slightly MS/360 lately?stvee101

It's you. There are other sites reporting this also. The 360 keeps having negative issues popping: Hardware issues (a big one), hardware sales (getting worse and worse relative to the PS3 and Wii), etc.

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Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?
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And yet games like Mass Effect, which isn't a game ported form the PS2, work fine. Smooth move, R*.
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#7 Duckyindiana
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Its the GAME thats the problem not the console!
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Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Bigboi500

Wow ,calm down and take it easy,no need to get worked up over something like this.

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#9 Sihanouk
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Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Bigboi500

Hehe. Your words are more false and misleading than mine. I offered facts and reasons. I even had a link. It's not false. A lot 360s do have problems running a rockstar game.

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#10 Ontain
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buggy port. R* blames MS. who are we to believe?
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?stvee101

Wow ,calm down and take it easy,no need to get worked up over something like this.

You calm down I'm just tired of the b.s. the mods should lock this crap.
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Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Bigboi500

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Bigboi500

Wow ,calm down and take it easy,no need to get worked up over something like this.

You calm down I'm just tired of the b.s. the mods should lock this crap.

Someone forgot to take their pills again :roll:

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stop catching feelings. ^^
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?stvee101

Wow ,calm down and take it easy,no need to get worked up over something like this.

You calm down I'm just tired of the b.s. the mods should lock this crap.

Someone forgot to take their pills again :roll:

Spin doctor much? :|
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Why couldnt you just say it was Bully and not GTA IV?
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Verge_6

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

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When did Rockstar become the greatest video game developer on the planet...?

If GTA 4 ran so bad on the 360 why would so much money be soaked into it...?

Antikyth3ra

If you read the article you have noticed this is not about GTA4!

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COD 4 runs at 60fps. Rockstar sucks really bad if they cant make a PS2 port work on 360. pathetic.
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Sihanouk

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

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You mean that game i didn't even bother to play on my PS2? Ok then.
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Spin doctor much? :|Bigboi500

:?:lol: Whats going on here?

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Sihanouk

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

That has to be the most pathetic thing ive heard. U need a bluray player to get laid.
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I'm glad this happened. Its a good lesson for all you PlayStation haters. The 360 is capable of getting bad ports, too. And this is a port of a PS2 game. Very weird, but yeah, I hope that this makes people realize that just because a port doesn't work out doesn't mean it's the fault of the system.

A port is a port.

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So Rockstar makes a buggy port, and it's MS's fault?
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Verge_6

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

I've said nothing to get in trouble over. :? But yeah I see what you mean.
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?jg4xchamp

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

That has to be the most pathetic thing ive heard. U need a bluray player to get laid.



I wouldnt be surprised if he used pickup lines like: "Your father is a thief. He took all the stars from heaven and put them into your eyes.".
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Yeah that table tennis game is a real killer.
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Devs are getting whinier every day it seems.

They should really stop blaming the platforms and/or the industry they're working with for their own shortcomings.
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Verge_6

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

haha. I wasn't delusional. I was blessed. Second date, new year's eve. Blu-ray movie. Making out. Best new year ever for me. I never said Blu-ray was the sole reason. I said it helped. If I stick around this forum, I will create a topic to see if other PS3 owners also had success stories from watching a Blu-ray movie with their girl. We will see who is delusional and who is envious.

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It has so many problems that it is the only version shown to press?
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Sihanouk

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

haha. I wasn't delusional. I was blessed. Second date, new year's eve. Blu-ray movie. Making out. Best new year ever for me. I never said Blu-ray was the sole reason. I said it helped. If I stick around this forum, I will create a topic to see if other PS3 owners also had success stories from watching a Blu-ray movie with their girl. We will see who is delusional and who is envious.

...I'm really sorry to break this to you, but...the Second life persona you created isn't alive

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Take what you will out of this. Rockstar "Horrified" By Xbox 360... Wouldn't it suck, to be playing your favorite game and then have the console die on you? When will negative press about the 360 end? Because of the hardware issues the following seems clearer and clearer to me:

1. Microsoft will care about making profits than winning the console war. It most likely underestimated the reliability of its own console. As such, the 1 billion plus it set aside for RROD wasn't enough.

2. Microsoft will not win the console war. It will be the PS3 or the Wii.

3. Microsoft will not release the Blu-ray add on for the 360. I think I will most likely be right on this one. If microsoft releases the add-on, it risks increasing the anger towards RROD--its customers with RROD are now angry for not being to play games AND watch movies. It will impact Microsofts reputation when it releases the next Xbox. There are other reasons against Microsoft releasing the blu-ray add-on like: slowing the adoption of VOD, incrasing the value of the PS3, slow adoption of add-ons in general.

4. Starting november of 2008, when the 3 yr warranty starts to expire, a new round of negativity towards the 360 will occur. Microsoft will lose more money as a result, either from extending the warranty again (unlikely) or consumers having less interest in buying the 360 because of bad reputation.

Sihanouk

The press wasn't about the 360 hardware, it was about the Bully SE game having issues. The XBox 360 hardware was fine, it was the GAME that was the issue. Rockstar is working on a patch as I type this. The 360 may not win the console war, but neither with the PS3. The war will be over by the time the PS3 has any chance of catching the Wii. War over meaning Nintendo will have released a new game console before the PS3 catches them. M$ is not going to release a Blu-Ray add on. If anything, their next console might have Blu-Ray or even a better media format in it. The RROD issue will be over before the end of the year when the Jasper GPU is released.

http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/aei/2007/10/09/xbox_360_secrets_after_falcon_comes_jasper/

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#35 blackace
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Its the GAME thats the problem not the console!Duckyindiana

Yeah, but Cows will continue to spin this as a XBox 360 hardware issue, when it wasn't a hardware problem at all. The Bully SE game is the REAL problem. Rockstar's dev team screwed this one up. The cows should be bashing the Bully SE game and the developers, not the 360.

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I'm just shocked that some Sony fans have lost it so bad over one game that they didn't even outright loose, (GTAIV) I've never seen such crazy behavior even from the regular fanboys here, it's quite laughable. :lol:
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And yet games like Mass Effect, which isn't a game ported form the PS2, work fine. Smooth move, R*.Verge_6


ROFL yeah ignore all the framerate problems.
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So Capcoms Buggy Lost Planet port is the fault of the PS3 and Sony?
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]And yet games like Mass Effect, which isn't a game ported form the PS2, work fine. Smooth move, R*.Rhubarb9


ROFL yeah ignore all the framerate problems.

I can't ignore something that doesn't exist. :|

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Sihanouk

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

haha. I wasn't delusional. I was blessed. Second date, new year's eve. Blu-ray movie. Making out. Best new year ever for me. I never said Blu-ray was the sole reason. I said it helped. If I stick around this forum, I will create a topic to see if other PS3 owners also had success stories from watching a Blu-ray movie with their girl. We will see who is delusional and who is envious.

...I'm really sorry to break this to you, but...the Second life persona you created isn't alive

I am just sorry that you haven't experienced a Blu-ray date like me. If you had, you'd be a PS3 fanboy, too.

A blue-ray date.... that's just funny.

Sorry for the pointless post but this is just sad, and laughable.

To the TC: Implying that is GTA with your ambiguous title removes any credibility you may have had.

On top of that the one review I have read for Bully on the 360 was a good review. So far I have only seen the Gamespy review.

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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Take what you will out of this. Rockstar "Horrified" By Xbox 360... Wouldn't it suck, to be playing your favorite game and then have the console die on you? When will negative press about the 360 end? Because of the hardware issues the following seems clearer and clearer to me:

1. Microsoft will care about making profits than winning the console war. It most likely underestimated the reliability of its own console. As such, the 1 billion plus it set aside for RROD wasn't enough.

2. Microsoft will not win the console war. It will be the PS3 or the Wii.

3. Microsoft will not release the Blu-ray add on for the 360. I think I will most likely be right on this one. If microsoft releases the add-on, it risks increasing the anger towards RROD--its customers with RROD are now angry for not being to play games AND watch movies. It will impact Microsofts reputation when it releases the next Xbox. There are other reasons against Microsoft releasing the blu-ray add-on like: slowing the adoption of VOD, incrasing the value of the PS3, slow adoption of add-ons in general.

4. Starting november of 2008, when the 3 yr warranty starts to expire, a new round of negativity towards the 360 will occur. Microsoft will lose more money as a result, either from extending the warranty again (unlikely) or consumers having less interest in buying the 360 because of bad reputation.

blackace

The press wasn't about the 360 hardware, it was about the Bully SE game having issues. The XBox 360 hardware was fine, it was the GAME that was the issue. Rockstar is working on a patch as I type this. The 360 may not win the console war, but neither with the PS3. The war will be over by the time the PS3 has any chance of catching the Wii. War over meaning Nintendo will have released a new game console before the PS3 catches them. M$ is not going to release a Blu-Ray add on. If anything, their next console might have Blu-Ray or even a better media format in it. The RROD issue will be over before the end of the year when the Jasper GPU is released.

http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/aei/2007/10/09/xbox_360_secrets_after_falcon_comes_jasper/

It is about hardware; the game runs differently between differnet models. There are more well-known analysts (Pachter and Isupply) who said that the PS3 will beat out the Wii. War isn't over till all 3 consoles are discontinued. There might be two wars at the same time, this gen's and next gen's going on at the same time.

RROD issues will not be over because older 360s continue to break and negative press will continue to happen. Even then, Microsoft hasn't proven that it can make a reliable 360 yet. By the it does, it might be too late.

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#42 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Sihanouk

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

haha. I wasn't delusional. I was blessed. Second date, new year's eve. Blu-ray movie. Making out. Best new year ever for me. I never said Blu-ray was the sole reason. I said it helped. If I stick around this forum, I will create a topic to see if other PS3 owners also had success stories from watching a Blu-ray movie with their girl. We will see who is delusional and who is envious.

I feel really sad for you if you think she slept with you because you had blu-ray instead of wanting to do it with you personally.

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#44 Sihanouk
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?JLF1

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

haha. I wasn't delusional. I was blessed. Second date, new year's eve. Blu-ray movie. Making out. Best new year ever for me. I never said Blu-ray was the sole reason. I said it helped. If I stick around this forum, I will create a topic to see if other PS3 owners also had success stories from watching a Blu-ray movie with their girl. We will see who is delusional and who is envious.

I feel really sad for you if you think she slept with you because you had blu-ray instead of wanting to do it with you personally.

Can't you friggin read? I said Blu-ray helped--not the main reason. Like dressing nicely helps. Being nice helps. Having chemistry helps. Etc.

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#45 TheDarkDisciple
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So whenever ps3 gets bad ports (and it usually does) it's "lazy devs"; but when the 360 gets one bad port it's "wow teh 360 is teh sux!!"

:roll:

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And yet games like Mass Effect, which isn't a game ported form the PS2, work fine. Smooth move, R*.Verge_6

works fine? have u played mass effect?? its my favorite game this gen but the slow down is there and thats not fine. ive had numerious drops down into the single digit frames

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#47 Jamiemydearx3
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Cows and their b.s. damage control threads are starting to make me sick. Now they are resorting to all-out lies and mis-leading half-truths to creep forward their agendas. Absolutely despicable tactics. Have you cows no shame?Sihanouk

Easy, this is the guy who think having a PS3 will get you laid. He's not worth it.

Hehe. Wait and see. I won't be the only one. When Blu-ray becomes mainstream, a lot of gamers (PS3 owners, especially) will have their own success stories to tell. Watching the best version of the movies with your girl at home is better than at the movies.

See what I mean? Do you really want to get in trouble over a person who is this delusional?

haha. I wasn't delusional. I was blessed. Second date, new year's eve. Blu-ray movie. Making out. Best new year ever for me. I never said Blu-ray was the sole reason. I said it helped. If I stick around this forum, I will create a topic to see if other PS3 owners also had success stories from watching a Blu-ray movie with their girl. We will see who is delusional and who is envious.

:lol::lol::lol: WOW, dood. Im speechless by this. :lol:
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#48 JLF1
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Take what you will out of this. Rockstar "Horrified" By Xbox 360... Wouldn't it suck, to be playing your favorite game and then have the console die on you? When will negative press about the 360 end? Because of the hardware issues the following seems clearer and clearer to me:

1. Microsoft will care about making profits than winning the console war. It most likely underestimated the reliability of its own console. As such, the 1 billion plus it set aside for RROD wasn't enough.

2. Microsoft will not win the console war. It will be the PS3 or the Wii.

3. Microsoft will not release the Blu-ray add on for the 360. I think I will most likely be right on this one. If microsoft releases the add-on, it risks increasing the anger towards RROD--its customers with RROD are now angry for not being to play games AND watch movies. It will impact Microsofts reputation when it releases the next Xbox. There are other reasons against Microsoft releasing the blu-ray add-on like: slowing the adoption of VOD, incrasing the value of the PS3, slow adoption of add-ons in general.

4. Starting november of 2008, when the 3 yr warranty starts to expire, a new round of negativity towards the 360 will occur. Microsoft will lose more money as a result, either from extending the warranty again (unlikely) or consumers having less interest in buying the 360 because of bad reputation.

Sihanouk

The press wasn't about the 360 hardware, it was about the Bully SE game having issues. The XBox 360 hardware was fine, it was the GAME that was the issue. Rockstar is working on a patch as I type this. The 360 may not win the console war, but neither with the PS3. The war will be over by the time the PS3 has any chance of catching the Wii. War over meaning Nintendo will have released a new game console before the PS3 catches them. M$ is not going to release a Blu-Ray add on. If anything, their next console might have Blu-Ray or even a better media format in it. The RROD issue will be over before the end of the year when the Jasper GPU is released.

http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/aei/2007/10/09/xbox_360_secrets_after_falcon_comes_jasper/

It is about hardware; the game runs differently between differnet models. There are more well-known analysts (Pachter and Isupply) who said that the PS3 will beat out the Wii. War isn't over till all 3 consoles are discontinued. There might be two wars at the same time, this gen's and next gen's going on at the same time.

RROD issues will not be over because older 360s continue to break and negative press will continue to happen. Even then, Microsoft hasn't proven that it can make a reliable 360 yet. By the it does, it might be too late.

If you think bully runs like crap because of the 360 hardware you also has to think the PS3 has crap hardware with horrible ports like Lost Planet, The Orange box and Madden NFL 08.

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#49 Sihanouk
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So whenever ps3 gets bad ports (and it usually does) it's "lazy devs"; but when the 360 gets one bad port it's "wow teh 360 is teh sux!!"

:roll:

TheDarkDisciple

This is more than about bad ports. It's also about different models of the 360 can run games differently!

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#50 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]And yet games like Mass Effect, which isn't a game ported form the PS2, work fine. Smooth move, R*.blues3531

works fine? have u played mass effect?? its my favorite game this gen but the slow down is there and thats not fine. ive had numerious drops down into the single digit frames

I own the damn game, and the only time the framerate dips is a few seconds after the level loads. After that, it's as smooth as butter.