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#1 hoogiewumpus
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The PS3, it seems, has finally locked up this generation. The 360 has nothing left. Let's take a look. In the beginning, all everybody did was complain about the lack of games on the PS3. Then it got a whole ton of games, and now the best exclusives are on the PS3. THen everybody talked about how great Gears looked. Then Uncharted came out and the 360 never regained the graphics crown. Then Kinect and Move came out, and it turned out that Kinect was only used for shovelware while Move worked great with hardcore games like KZ3. Then, MS turned its back on all gamers by only focusing on Kinect Sesame Street and similar shovelware - no good exclusives. So the comeback was that mulitplats are still games. While that's true, you can't forget that they are on the PS3 as well. It used to be that people pointed out small differences in multiplats to prove their superiority on the 360. Now, even Lems of Truth can't deny the turn of the tide. The PS3 now is the system for multis too, with better looking games like LA Noir, Brink, Mass Effect 2, and others. So the 360 isn't the system for graphics. It's not the system for exclusives. It's lost it's ace card, which are multiplats, and it's no longer the system for multiplats. PSN is being redesigned according to IGN, so pretty soon, it's not going to be the system for online anymore either (unless you like paying $60 for an inferior experiecne). So my question is this: What is the 360 good for anymore?
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The 360 is still a solid console, but honestly... Reach is the last game I played on mine. I wish it had more to offer for multi-console owners.

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#3 lawlessx
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The 360 still has exclusives that i care about..sooo
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#4 Zorgax
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lol people are still talking about this gen? get with the times nintendo has already released their next gen handheld and are releasing their next gen console next year. lol.

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#5 Lto_thaG
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"I am very much pro-PS3 and I hate the 360 with a passion."

Great,another one of those.

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#6 TheEroica  Moderator
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What does "nothing left" actually mean in the reality of the current consoles? There are at least ten games on my radar over the next year that I cant wait to play on the 360 so i cant even come close to agreeing with the grandious statement that one console has dead and one is thriving. It makes absolutly no sense. sorry.

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#7 15strong
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lol people are still talking about this gen? get with the times nintendo has already released their next gen handheld and are releasing their next gen console next year. lol.

Zorgax

The only reason to play or own a 3ds is for a game that came out in 1998.

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#8 Badosh
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Sir, you have changed my whole opinion on the matter. Brb, destroying 360.
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#9 ArchoNils2
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lol people are still talking about this gen? get with the times nintendo has already released their next gen handheld and are releasing their next gen console next year. lol.

Zorgax

Well, the 3DS has no next gen competition and the Wii U isn't out yet, so it's normal we speak about this gen.

Anyway, I do agree that PS3 > X360, but there are other systems around this gen :S

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#10 Lto_thaG
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What does "nothing left" actually mean

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It's pretty much saying "I don't like the games that are coming out so automatically nothing is coming out"

It's stupid,I agree.Just because you don't like the games coming out,doesn't mean there's "nothing left".

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#11 BloodyFalcon007
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PS3 has lost this gen.

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#12 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

What does "nothing left" actually mean

Lto_thaG


It's pretty much saying "I don't like the games that are coming out so automatically nothing is coming out"

It's stupid,I agree.Just because you don't like the games coming out,doesn't mean there's "nothing left".

oooooh so another one of those opinion threads where the TC decides to take liberties that it is truth? soooo nothing more to see here, gotcha.

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#13 SolidSnake35
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I think the PS3 and 360 are about on par. I can't wait for the drivel to begin again at the start of the next generation.
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#14 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

What does "nothing left" actually mean

TheEroica


It's pretty much saying "I don't like the games that are coming out so automatically nothing is coming out"

It's stupid,I agree.Just because you don't like the games coming out,doesn't mean there's "nothing left".

oooooh so another one of those opinion threads where the TC decides to take liberties that it is truth? soooo nothing more to see here, gotcha.

Indeed.

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#15 hoogiewumpus
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There's nothing left to set the system a part. And in terms of next-gen - the 3DS is a flop with no games. We have no idea about what the WU is, and Carmack said that it's only just comparable with the 360. It's not more powerful. Objectively, there's no reason to choose a 360 over a PS3.
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#17 Snugenz
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The PS3, it seems, has finally locked up this generation. The 360 has nothing left (not true). Let's take a look. In the beginning, all everybody did was complain about the lack of games on the PS3. Then it got a whole ton of games, and now the best exclusives are on the PS3 (subjective). THen everybody talked about how great Gears looked. Then Uncharted came out and the 360 never regained the graphics crown (the PS3 hasnt had the graphics crown yet). Then Kinect and Move came out, and it turned out that Kinect was only used for shovelware while Move worked great with hardcore games like KZ3 (plus all the shovelware for Move). Then, MS turned its back on all gamers by only focusing on Kinect Sesame Street and similar shovelware - no good exclusives (not true).

So the comeback was that mulitplats are still games. While that's true, you can't forget that they are on the PS3 as well. It used to be that people pointed out small differences in multiplats to prove their superiority on the 360. Now, even Lems of Truth can't deny the turn of the tide. The PS3 now is the system for multis too, with better looking games like LA Noir, Brink, Mass Effect 2 (eh no), and others. So the 360 isn't the system for graphics. It's not the system for exclusives. It's lost it's ace card, which are multiplats, and it's no longer the system for multiplats. PSN is being redesigned according to IGN, so pretty soon, it's not going to be the system for online anymore either (unless you like paying $60 for an inferior experiecne). So my question is this: What is the 360 good for anymore?hoogiewumpus

Really, did you think you were on to something here?. The 360 is good for games, its still good for games, just like the PS3. A few more exclusives this year on the PS3 doesnt make it leaps and bounds better than the 360. They're both extremely similar.

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#18 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"]There's nothing left to set the system a part. And in terms of next-gen - the 3DS is a flop with no games. We have no idea about what the WU is, and Carmack said that it's only just comparable with the 360. It's not more powerful. Objectively, there's no reason to choose a 360 over a PS3.

so then the NPD numbers over the past year have been a product of alien gaming zombies who have no understanding of video games and the industry whatsoever? youre actually claiming that there is zero benefit to own a 360? this is a new kind of insanity...
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#19 TheEroica  Moderator
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Cow troll threads are getting kinda annoying.

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Troll threads all around are annoying, but at least when its coming from PC/360 for the most part, its based on something that has actually happened in the industry. How many months has this board been filled with non stop sony trolls claiming world dominance from last place...
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#20 MasonLovak
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ps3 and xbox are equal in my eyes. i own both consoles and like them the same.
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#21 hoogiewumpus
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"]There's nothing left to set the system a part. And in terms of next-gen - the 3DS is a flop with no games. We have no idea about what the WU is, and Carmack said that it's only just comparable with the 360. It's not more powerful. Objectively, there's no reason to choose a 360 over a PS3.

so then the NPD numbers over the past year have been a product of alien gaming zombies who have no understanding of video games and the industry whatsoever? youre actually claiming that there is zero benefit to own a 360? this is a new kind of insanity...

No, I said that it makes little sense, in the face of the facts, to choose 360 over PS3. You can still have fun with the 360, I guess, but there is no reason anymore to favor 360 over PS3.
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#22 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"]There's nothing left to set the system a part. And in terms of next-gen - the 3DS is a flop with no games. We have no idea about what the WU is, and Carmack said that it's only just comparable with the 360. It's not more powerful. Objectively, there's no reason to choose a 360 over a PS3. hoogiewumpus
so then the NPD numbers over the past year have been a product of alien gaming zombies who have no understanding of video games and the industry whatsoever? youre actually claiming that there is zero benefit to own a 360? this is a new kind of insanity...

No, I said that it makes little sense, in the face of the facts, to choose 360 over PS3. You can still have fun with the 360, I guess, but there is no reason anymore to favor 360 over PS3.

Personal preferrence really, as they're both so extremely similar.

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#23 TheEroica  Moderator
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ps3 and xbox are equal in my eyes. i own both consoles and like them the same.MasonLovak
been my point for a while, this generation has been the merging of the industry to an effect. Gone are the days where the hot exclusive bares the most weight as to what console to buy... Both consoles have great games that separate them but only by the slimmest of margins.
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Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"?
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#25 turtlethetaffer
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Well there are more exlusives coming out for the 360 later this year, and there's also next year that we have no idea about so yeah.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"?

some people feel the need to prove their favorite system is superior. i don't understand why, each system has its pros and cons, each system has its own good and bad games.
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#27 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"? MasonLovak
some people feel the need to prove their favorite system is superior. i don't understand why, each system has its pros and cons, each system has its own good and bad games.

Mason, if people thoguht that way System Wars would cease to exist. However I agree with you.

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#28 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"?

This is system wars..what do you expect? This is the same place where cows called the xbox360 "the next dreamcast" and claimed the ps3 was going to blow it away at launch with a bunch of unconfrimed titles
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"?

Why is it that the default comback is to call PS3 fans "irrational," call them insecure, or suggest that they're trolling? I was very rational in my post. Your evidence is to provide on niche game and then resort to name calling. No offense, but in my opinion, that's irrational.
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I agree, I'm about to get rid of my xbox for those very same reasons.
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[QUOTE="MasonLovak"]some people feel the need to prove their favorite system is superior. i don't understand why, each system has its pros and cons, each system has its own good and bad games.turtlethetaffer

Mason, if people thought that way System Wars would cease to exist.

i suppose so :lol: still, theres nothing wrong with a bit of debate.

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I agree, I'm about to get rid of my xbox for those very same reasons. Heil68
I think your chart says it all. The 3Ds has more high-scoring exclusives than the 360 and it's library is bashed to hell and back. Why is it suddenly not okay to point this out about the 360 in system wars.
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#33 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="MasonLovak"]some people feel the need to prove their favorite system is superior. i don't understand why, each system has its pros and cons, each system has its own good and bad games.MasonLovak

Mason, if people thought that way System Wars would cease to exist.

i suppose so :lol: still, theres nothing wrong with a bit of debate.

Oh I agree, but it travels into ridiculous territory when people are acting like their fav system is the best and every other one sucks because it's not their favorite system. Also, using terms like lems, sheep etc. just seems very childish to me. But hey...

It's System Wars! Go ape %^&*!

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#34 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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The 360 is still a solid console, but honestly... Reach is the last game I played on mine. I wish it had more to offer for multi-console owners.

psn8214

I haven't removed Reach from the console since I bought it. Shame, really. Fanboy post or not, the TC makes a lot of valid points, especially in that first paragraph. Any xbox fan that doesn't see MS is trying to cash-in on the wii crowd and thus alienating the original market, is downright blind.

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#35 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"? hoogiewumpus
Why is it that the default comback is to call PS3 fans "irrational," call them insecure, or suggest that they're trolling? I was very rational in my post. Your evidence is to provide on niche game and then resort to name calling. No offense, but in my opinion, that's irrational.

Irrational because your "facts" are actually not factual, at all. Also you're sig doesnt help your case. "hate with a passion" tends to destroy any chance of objectivity no matter how "honest" you think you're being.

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#36 Snugenz
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I agree, I'm about to get rid of my xbox for those very same reasons. Heil68

I thought you were looking forward to Forza 4, i'm sure i've seen you say you were getting it in a few threads?.

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I sold the PS3 because it lacked anything to keep me interested, Uncharted sucked balls; inFamous reminded me of [PROTOTYPE] too much, and Resistance and Killzone are more generic FPS' which I loathe. 360 Has more variety for me, and Gears was the reason I got it; INB4: GAME IS TOO GREY/BROWN! Ps3 I got when I didn't even ask, from a friend who like me shares my opinion about it lacking. For me the Xbox although being a shoddy, cheap console has better games (No I hate Reach) and the online is more smooth, have you seen the dashboard PSFails? It's bloody sexy.
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[QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"? Snugenz

Why is it that the default comback is to call PS3 fans "irrational," call them insecure, or suggest that they're trolling? I was very rational in my post. Your evidence is to provide on niche game and then resort to name calling. No offense, but in my opinion, that's irrational.

Irrational because your "facts" are actually not factual, at all. Also you're sig doesnt help your case. "hate with a passion" tends to destroy any chance of objectivity no matter how "honest" you think you're being.

couldnt have said it better myself... you're not gonna ever be taken seriously with a sig like that.
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Oh I agree, but it travels into ridiculous territory when people are acting like their fav system is the best and every other one sucks because it's not their favorite system. Also, using terms like lems, sheep etc. just seems very childish to me. But hey... It's System Wars! Go apeturtlethetaffer
Yeah, although i can understand why those terms are used. still, i wish more people were open to other systems and didn't resort to baseless bashing at times. saw a lot of that on other sites i.e IGN and the like :?
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#40 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]I agree, I'm about to get rid of my xbox for those very same reasons. Snugenz

I thought you were looking forward to Forza 4, i'm sure i've seen you say you were getting it in a few threads?.

I just got Forza 3 a month or so ago, I'm behind a little bit. :P And Forza 4 doesn't appear to be that much different than 3, so meh...If anything I'll get it cheap like I did F3, if I still have my 360 by then. ;)
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#41 MasonLovak
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[QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Forza 4 alone disagrees. Why are cows so adamant to prove the 360 "has no games"? Are they that insecure about what their platform offers that they have to irrationally attack their "enemy"? Snugenz

Why is it that the default comback is to call PS3 fans "irrational," call them insecure, or suggest that they're trolling? I was very rational in my post. Your evidence is to provide on niche game and then resort to name calling. No offense, but in my opinion, that's irrational.

Irrational because your "facts" are actually not factual, at all. Also you're sig doesnt help your case. "hate with a passion" tends to destroy any chance of objectivity no matter how "honest" you think you're being.

agreed. you need to keep stuff like that out of your sig, people wont take your opinions seriously.
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Oh I agree, but it travels into ridiculous territory when people are acting like their fav system is the best and every other one sucks because it's not their favorite system. Also, using terms like lems, sheep etc. just seems very childish to me. But hey... It's System Wars! Go apeMasonLovak
Yeah, although i can understand why those terms are used. still, i wish more people were open to other systems and didn't resort to baseless bashing at times. saw a lot of that on other sites i.e IGN and the like :?

Honestly it just limits your gaming fun when you're like "SYSTEM (insert name here) is superior and all others suck!" Honestly, if I had the time/ money, I'd own all three current gen consoles.

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#43 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Oh I agree, but it travels into ridiculous territory when people are acting like their fav system is the best and every other one sucks because it's not their favorite system. Also, using terms like lems, sheep etc. just seems very childish to me. But hey... It's System Wars! Go apeMasonLovak
Yeah, although i can understand why those terms are used. still, i wish more people were open to other systems and didn't resort to baseless bashing at times. saw a lot of that on other sites i.e IGN and the like :?

SW isnt that bad actually, its alot better than the cesspit that is Youtube comments *shudders*

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#44 Leekspin
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TC is totally not biased.

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#45 MasonLovak
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[QUOTE="MasonLovak"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Oh I agree, but it travels into ridiculous territory when people are acting like their fav system is the best and every other one sucks because it's not their favorite system. Also, using terms like lems, sheep etc. just seems very childish to me. But hey... It's System Wars! Go apeSnugenz

Yeah, although i can understand why those terms are used. still, i wish more people were open to other systems and didn't resort to baseless bashing at times. saw a lot of that on other sites i.e IGN and the like :?

SW isnt that bad actually, its alot better than the cesspit that is Youtube comments *shudders*

I get a headache just thinking about some of the many I've read :cry:

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#46 1080pOnly
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I still hate playing on my PS3 with the crappy controller. The 360, for me and many others, just got it right. Plus I don't like plugging in to recharge, I am one of the few who likes being able to swap out and continue play wirelessly.

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#47 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="MasonLovak"] Yeah, although i can understand why those terms are used. still, i wish more people were open to other systems and didn't resort to baseless bashing at times. saw a lot of that on other sites i.e IGN and the like :?MasonLovak

SW isnt that bad actually, its alot better than the cesspit that is Youtube comments *shudders*

I get a headache just thinking about some of the many I've read :cry:

Yeah those are pretty bad. And some people are just delusional. I watched a video of Jimmy Page (guitarist for Led Zeppelin) blasted out of his mind trying to play Stairway to Heaven. He was so gone, after about 5 minutes of awful playing, he said into the mic "I remember the song now!" And some chucklehead was trying to defend him by saying tht sure his playing may have been awful in that video but no one can play that badly with as much passion as Jimmy Page. And it was the top rated comment. I love Led Zeppelin but come one.

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#48 DeadlyNirvana
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I still hate playing on my PS3 with the crappy controller. The 360, for me and many others, just got it right. Plus I don't like plugging in to recharge, I am one of the few who likes being able to swap out and continue play wirelessly.

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Got a biased response to that TC?
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#49 MasonLovak
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I still hate playing on my PS3 with the crappy controller. The 360, for me and many others, just got it right. Plus I don't like plugging in to recharge, I am one of the few who likes being able to swap out and continue play wirelessly.

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Really? I like both, but I like how I can recharge the ps3 controller straight from the console. Its a pain when I don't have any batteries handy when the ones in my 360 controller run out.
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#50 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

I still hate playing on my PS3 with the crappy controller. The 360, for me and many others, just got it right. Plus I don't like plugging in to recharge, I am one of the few who likes being able to swap out and continue play wirelessly.

MasonLovak

Really? I like both, but I like how I can recharge the ps3 controller straight from the console. Its a pain when I don't have any batteries handy when the ones in my 360 controller run out.

Yeah well there you go. I hate the short wire on the PS3 so i had to buy two long ones. Now they trail annoyingly across my room and my coffee table acting as some form of trip hazard, plus I have to store them or dig them out and plug them in on a regular basis..meh its not much but it's annoying. The batts in my PS3 controller just dont seem to last very long and I have, at an extra cost, got a battery tree and packs for my 360 which means I always have charge and while i'm playing its charging the other packs.

I hate the back triggers also and while i have bought the little plastic clips to make they curve the natural and ergonomic way its just plain bad design. Plus my clips keep snapping off at the wrong time, guess I didn't research which 3 party mod I would need for my controller.