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#1 MegamanX400
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If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

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#2 truesKill87
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Price drop to $199 for premium for christmas will save 360
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Price drop to $199 for premium for christmas will save 360truesKill87

At this point, I honestly don't think the 360 is the one that needs saving...

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#5 Nugtoka
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Price drop to $199 for premium for christmas will save 360truesKill87
Save? MS is in the drivers set now. More games Better games more powerful graphics more developer support better online. PS3 needs saving in a major way its going down in flames and if you think Motorstorm is going to change anything your are sadly mistaken
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#6 Nike_Air
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Cows would have to start loving Halo and paying for online all of a sudden for it to be game over for Sony.


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#7 truesKill87
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Cows would have to start loving Halo and paying for online all of a sudden for it to be game over for Sony.


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which is never.
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#8 Blackbond
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TC Avatar and name are God like. I approve this thread. But you realize Halo 3 will have no impact in Japan right? But that's why MS is hoping Nintendo takes over Japan. MS just needs to beat Sony in Europe and America.
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If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

MegamanX400

I wouldn't call it game over, but they would be in some pretty serious trouble.  Oh, and RE5 is on the 360.

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#10 MegamanX400
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Cows would have to start loving Halo and paying for online all of a sudden for it to be game over for Sony.


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OK, "Game Over" is a far stretch, a poor choice of words perhaps, but it can't be good for Sony. And I didn't even include Nintendo and Smash Bros and MP3 into that equation with a price drop to $199 which is more than do able for Nintendo. Sony must take action, and fast. The need to be pro-active and not re-active.
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#11 D_slims
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Price drop to $199 for premium for christmas will save 360truesKill87
360 is selling like crazy u idiot!! ps3 should be 200$ its craP
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#12 MegamanX400
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I wouldn't call it game over, but they would be in some pretty serious trouble.  Oh, and RE5 is on the 360.

Ptolemaueus

True, but it helps having it on their console as well, just like GTA4, which I forgot to include in the 2008 mix.

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Halo 3 and GTA4 this Christmas, the two most powerful IPs in America will be available to one console.
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Halo 3 and GTA4 this Christmas, the two most powerful IPs in America will be available to one console.DaysAirlines
GTA4 wont come in 2007. Theyll delay it.
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#15 DA_B0MB
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Price drop to $199 for premium for christmas will save 360truesKill87
Why are you such a fanboy? If anmything, that would murder the PS3 and even the Wii for something that low priced with such a large library of great games. Use logic please.
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#16 rarsi123
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I honestly think the PS3 will very quickly overtake the 360, especially if it has a price drop. Sony will definitely come out on top, unless Nintendo manage to topple it.
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Cows would have to start loving Halo and paying for online all of a sudden for it to be game over for Sony.


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OK, "Game Over" is a far stretch, a poor choice of words perhaps, but it can't be good for Sony. And I didn't even include Nintendo and Smash Bros and MP3 into that equation with a price drop to $199 which is more than do able for Nintendo. Sony must take action, and fast. The need to be pro-active and not re-active.

All I can say that the war is not decided that quickly. Yes , those systems will have some big guns ready , but the ps3 will have its own guns ready for 2008 and beyond. Price drop , MGS4 , GT5 , 2 Final Fantasy titles , and a host of other smaller million sellers that appeal to all three territories for the future.


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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Halo 3 and GTA4 this Christmas, the two most powerful IPs in America will be available to one console.truesKill87
GTA4 wont come in 2007. Theyll delay it.

And we should trust you? They haven't given a release date for nothing. It means they think they finish it by october.
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Lets say this much....it would certainly help to keep microsoft in the lead.
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#20 Bam_Butch
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You + The creation of this thread = A sad sad world.
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This gen is all ready saturated with FPS. Expect, Halo 3 to lose a lot of 'swagger' from other shooters. Primely, you can blame GeoW and Crysis.
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If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

MegamanX400

I get tired of hearing...When 360 lowers their price or when the PSP lowers their price...The 360 is finally making money on the system costs do you think they will lower the price...when the 360 has yet to make any money overall? They are not lowering there price deal with it....They are going to have to compete with hold on wait for it GAMES

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#23 11Marcel
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[QUOTE="MegamanX400"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Cows would have to start loving Halo and paying for online all of a sudden for it to be game over for Sony.


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OK, "Game Over" is a far stretch, a poor choice of words perhaps, but it can't be good for Sony. And I didn't even include Nintendo and Smash Bros and MP3 into that equation with a price drop to $199 which is more than do able for Nintendo. Sony must take action, and fast. The need to be pro-active and not re-active.

All I can say that the war is not decided that quickly. Yes , those systems will have some big guns ready , but the ps3 will have its own guns ready for 2008 and beyond. Price drop , MGS4 , GT5 , 2 Final Fantasy titles , and a host of other smaller million sellers that appeal to all three territories for the future.


I think you don't really understand the impact of next holiday season. If xbox 360 wins the holiday season by a stretch, then it will have sold far more units than the PS3. This will lure a lot of developers to the 360 which again attracts consumers. The start of a console's lifetime says a lot.
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If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

MegamanX400

it would hurt sony yes. but i don't know about game over. as you said MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII are all scheduled for 2008 just knowing that those are coming out the next year is huge for Sony.. informed gamers would have a hard time choosing between 1 game now and 4 games in the future. those that already have a 360 would definately pick up Halo, but how much of MS's hidden fan base still hasn't made the jump from Xbox(hidden) to 360?

most of sony's fanbase is holding out of better games(or a price cut). will, Halo+price reduction, be enough to tempt those that haven't already converted to next gen... i think some will but most(51%+) i think will continue to hold off.

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#25 ff7isnumbaone
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Boooo! TC . get out of here lemming halo wont save you guys. Yea M$ will get some sales but nothing major.But halo developers will be the 1s getting the big money not m$.
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#26 truesKill87
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this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.
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#27 11Marcel
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Boooo! TC . get out of here lemming halo wont save you guys. Yea M$ will get some sales but nothing major.But halo developers will be the 1s getting the big money not m$.ff7isnumbaone
You know that bungie is first party do you? Ever watched the intro to the halos?
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#28 MegamanX400
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[QUOTE="MegamanX400"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Cows would have to start loving Halo and paying for online all of a sudden for it to be game over for Sony.


Nike_Air
OK, "Game Over" is a far stretch, a poor choice of words perhaps, but it can't be good for Sony. And I didn't even include Nintendo and Smash Bros and MP3 into that equation with a price drop to $199 which is more than do able for Nintendo. Sony must take action, and fast. The need to be pro-active and not re-active.

All I can say that the war is not decided that quickly. Yes , those systems will have some big guns ready , but the ps3 will have its own guns ready for 2008 and beyond. Price drop , MGS4 , GT5 , 2 Final Fantasy titles , and a host of other smaller million sellers that appeal to all three territories for the future.


But will it be too late by 2008 with the huge lead M$ already has, then factor in an even greater lead with sales generated from Halo 3
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this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.truesKill87
How is that $600 R:FOM delivery device working out for you?
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#30 MegamanX400
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You + The creation of this thread = A sad sad world.Bam_Butch
Umm, thanks?
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#31 MegamanX400
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[QUOTE="MegamanX400"]

If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

sunscorch

it would hurt sony yes. but i don't know about game over. as you said MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII are all scheduled for 2008 just knowing that those are coming out the next year is huge for Sony.. informed gamers would have a hard time choosing between 1 game now and 4 games in the future. those that already have a 360 would definately pick up Halo, but how much of MS's hidden fan base still hasn't made the jump from Xbox(hidden) to 360?

most of sony's fanbase is holding out of better games(or a price cut). will, Halo+price reduction, be enough to tempt those that haven't already converted to next gen... i think some will but most(51%+) i think will continue to hold off.

Wow, excellent points there, I really never thought of it that way... The 4 vs. 1 could make a critical point this holiday season. I think Sony will have to strongly advertise what's coming in 2008 to make casuals who don't read gaming websites on a day to day basis aware of this.
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[QUOTE="truesKill87"]this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.dsmccracken
How is that $600 R:FOM delivery device working out for you?

RFOM is console gamings best FPS ever
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the 360 doesnt need saving the 360 honestly the ps3 is terrible (i miss the old ps2 days) and WII is no competion its just working right along side 360 cause even if u have a 360 u still want a wii just 4 innovate play so WII60 DESTROYSRAWR
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="truesKill87"]this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.truesKill87
How is that $600 R:FOM delivery device working out for you?

RFOM is console gamings best FPS ever

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This gen is all ready saturated with FPS. Expect, Halo 3 to lose a lot of 'swagger' from other shooters. Primely, you can blame GeoW and Crysis.shungokustasu
Halo 3 is still going to get a ton of recognition, ecspecially if it's very good. People still play Halo you know, so if Bungie can somehow make it even better, there'll be two very strong killer apps on the 360...and then there's Ninja Gaiden 2 eventually.
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What MS need to do is try making a more reliable console that doesn't sound like a diesel engine!!
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#37 Toyeboy
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this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.truesKill87
Your forgetting a few other games....Gears of war, Ninja Gaiden 2, Forza Motorsports.....
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why do people hate sony, what did they ever do to you? Lets have love for all console, because without Compitition consoles would be like madden (CRAP).
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[QUOTE="truesKill87"]Price drop to $199 for premium for christmas will save 360The_Game21x

At this point, I honestly don't think the 360 is the one that needs saving...

Unfortunately as great as the system is, its loosing to fads like Wii and great games like Wii Play...
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If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

MegamanX400
A price drop and halo 1 + 2 didnt help the xbox overtake the ps2 now did it?
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#41 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]

I wouldn't call it game over, but they would be in some pretty serious trouble. Oh, and RE5 is on the 360.

MegamanX400

True, but it helps having it on their console as well, just like GTA4, which I forgot to include in the 2008 mix.



Casuals x cheaper console = Grand Theft Auto Sales.

Solve for Cheaper Console.

Edit : Sorry for all the math n stuff.
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="truesKill87"]this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.truesKill87
How is that $600 R:FOM delivery device working out for you?

RFOM is console gamings best FPS ever



Oh my god, who pays you people to come in here? Seriously, I just read about it in EGM, game companies pay people to join these forums and say things EXACTLY like you just said. It blows my mind! Need we go to game rankings where it recieved only an 88%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928399.asp

Where as Halo 1 scored a 95.6%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/472132.asp?q=Halo%20Combat%20Evolved

and Halo 2 (A crushing disappointment by the series standards) got a 94.6? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/562116.asp?q=Halo%20Combat%20Evolved

What about Timesplitters 2 getting a 91.6%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/517864.asp?q=Timesplitters

-Since you said it was the best ever-

Goldeneye getting a 95.7%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197462.asp?q=Goldeneye

Perfect Dark getting a 94.7% - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/198275.asp?q=Perfect%20Dark

Turok 2 getting an 89.5% - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/199127.asp?q=Turok

I think I just proved your statement so totally wrong that the ownage might make your head explode.
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#43 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Wii Price Drops + Super Smash Bros. Brawl= Game Over Sony and Microsoft
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Oh my god, who pays you people to come in here? Seriously, I just read about it in EGM, game companies pay people to join these forums and say things

TheSystemLord1

lol. i have heard that as well. but sadly the only person i've seen cought worked for MS. :lol: it was 6 months ago i think maybe longer.

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#45 Spartan070
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It won't be game over but the wound would be near fatal.
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#46 Spartan070
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Wii Price Drops + Super Smash Bros. Brawl= Game Over Sony and MicrosoftREVOLUTIONfreak
Halo has far greater selling power than SSB, besides, Nintendo has yet to hint at a price drop.
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#47 TheSystemLord1
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[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"]Wii Price Drops + Super Smash Bros. Brawl= Game Over Sony and MicrosoftSpartan070
Halo has far greater selling power than SSB, besides, Nintendo has yet to hint at a price drop.



I agree, Halo is one of those games you hear casuals talking about on the street all the time.  Doesn't matter where.  If you're talkin games chances are you will hear Halo mentioned.  Whether that sells 360's I couldn't tell you.  But it is a popular franchise.
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#48 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="MegamanX400"]

If Sony did not reduce their price for the next upcoming holiday season, so by October 2007, can anyone disagree with said statement?

Even a reduction to $349 and the launch of Halo 3 would be a devistating blow to Sony.  Especially since most of the key titles that Sony could compete with are not scheduled till 2008 (MGS4, DMC4, RE5, FFXIII).

Sony must reduce the price ASAP to get more systems out there, anyone, cows included, disagree with this?

Bren128
A price drop and halo 1 + 2 didnt help the xbox overtake the ps2 now did it?

Price wasn't as big a factor that gen, and the PS3 had a major games advantage that it doesn't enjoy this time around.
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#49 The_Game21x
Member since 2005 • 26440 Posts

[QUOTE="truesKill87"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="truesKill87"]this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.TheSystemLord1
How is that $600 R:FOM delivery device working out for you?

RFOM is console gamings best FPS ever



Oh my god, who pays you people to come in here? Seriously, I just read about it in EGM, game companies pay people to join these forums and say things EXACTLY like you just said. It blows my mind! Need we go to game rankings where it recieved only an 88%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928399.asp

Where as Halo 1 scored a 95.6%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/472132.asp?q=Halo%20Combat%20Evolved

and Halo 2 (A crushing disappointment by the series standards) got a 94.6? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/562116.asp?q=Halo%20Combat%20Evolved

What about Timesplitters 2 getting a 91.6%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/517864.asp?q=Timesplitters

-Since you said it was the best ever-

Goldeneye getting a 95.7%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197462.asp?q=Goldeneye

Perfect Dark getting a 94.7% - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/198275.asp?q=Perfect%20Dark

Turok 2 getting an 89.5% - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/199127.asp?q=Turok

I think I just proved your statement so totally wrong that the ownage might make your head explode.

Linked for further ownage. :P

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#50 Bren128
Member since 2003 • 2358 Posts

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="truesKill87"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="truesKill87"]this thread proves x360 is 1 game console sadly. Phil Harrison also pointed that out. Without Halo x360 is as good as a Neo Geo.The_Game21x

How is that $600 R:FOM delivery device working out for you?

RFOM is console gamings best FPS ever



Oh my god, who pays you people to come in here? Seriously, I just read about it in EGM, game companies pay people to join these forums and say things EXACTLY like you just said. It blows my mind! Need we go to game rankings where it recieved only an 88%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928399.asp

Where as Halo 1 scored a 95.6%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/472132.asp?q=Halo%20Combat%20Evolved

and Halo 2 (A crushing disappointment by the series standards) got a 94.6? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/562116.asp?q=Halo%20Combat%20Evolved

What about Timesplitters 2 getting a 91.6%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/517864.asp?q=Timesplitters

-Since you said it was the best ever-

Goldeneye getting a 95.7%? - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197462.asp?q=Goldeneye

Perfect Dark getting a 94.7% - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/198275.asp?q=Perfect%20Dark

Turok 2 getting an 89.5% - http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/199127.asp?q=Turok

I think I just proved your statement so totally wrong that the ownage might make your head explode.

Linked for further ownage. :P

the funny thing is besides tsp 2 that list is made up of games that were on consoles that ps and ps2 completely demolished lol