A pricedrop probably wouldn't even SAVE the PS3

What did a pricedrop do for the PSP? an extra 3 k in sales in last months NDP?

What did a pricedrop do for the Gamecube? Not much.

Why?

A losing product is a losing product.

In Japan, the PS3 is comparitively low priced, yet still it's only putting up a pitiful 8-10 k of sales a week. The PS3 does very little to differentiate itself from the competition, it has no casual appeal, it's been concieved/marketed/recieved poorly, and overall it just seems like a dud of a console.

Sony makes some decent first party games, and that's pretty much all the PS3 has going for it.

Maybe they should consider going third party?

The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.BioShockOwnz

prove that a pricedrop wouldn't help the ps3?Tnasty11

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.jedigemini

hehe yep. it's selling as well as consoles that have only been released in one region ;) 

I know at least 6 people as well as my brother (all previous PS2 owners) that refuse to shell out the dough for a PS3, nor do they want a 360. Not only would they all buy a PS3 if it was priced similar to the 360, if they made Madden for the PS3 only and not the PS2(which would never happen due to sales), it would solidify their purchase. I think Sony's biggest enemy when it comes to sales is their own PS2, which is still a great console in the eyes of average gamers. Most gamers don't go to gaming sites, so a lot of opinions you see on these boards are complete nonsense in relation to what the average person is thinking. mismajor99

Newsflash: your 6 friends and your brothers does not = the world. Can't judge how a pricedrop will affect the PS3 just from your few sources. I do agree that the boards provide some biased information, but once in a while, we get people who have links to some great sources of evidence and they say the PS3's demand just isn't very high right now.

ps3 doesn't need a price drop because its all ready beaten the competition just wait and see but the price drop will helpnaitsirhc

Beating the competition, means coming in dead last in sales?  Good logic.

The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.BioShockOwnz

Not quite, you see the first six months of the PS2 and PS1 it wasn't released in US, only Japan, PS3 was released in both 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.jedigemini

When did Nintendo drop the price of the DS and what was the immediate impact ? Maybe that will put things into perspective. I see a lot of similarities in the DS and PS3. They both had the huge userbase and both were slow in games and sales out of the gate. A price adjustment along with the games will help over a long period of time no doubt in my mind.

The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.BioShockOwnz

I hate to burst your bubble, especially if you live in the States:

That doesn't look like "just as well" to me. And please don't use the "But it costs $600, so naturally it would sell half as much as a $300 console!" excuse because anyone with half a brain would see that $600 for all those features is a steal, right? :roll: I mean, we should all be getting second jobs if we can't afford one because the console is just that great and it makes buying any other console the worst decision you could possibly make!!!!! (That last sentence was pure sarcasm, folks.)

The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.BioShockOwnz

This is a half truth.  It is true that the numbers are nearly identical for PS1, 2, and 3.  The problem is the market size had more than trippled (last I heard) so it isn't a true statement to say "because the numbers are the same, the PS3 is doing as well as the PS1 and 2."  Since the market has increased in size times three, the PS3 is in reality only doing 1/3 as good as the PS2.

Hi!  The games are what bring about the sales.  In a few months, PS3 will be getting a large load of games annnnddddd...

SSAAALLLEEESSSS!!!!!!! [BUZZERRR] SCCCCOOORRREEEEE!!!!!

WWWWWIIIIIIINNNNNN!!!1111OONNEEEEEELLEEVVEENNNN11!!!!!111 

When did Nintendo drop the price of the DS and what was the immediate impact ? Maybe that will put things into perspective. I see a lot of similarities in the DS and PS3. They both had the huge userbase and both were slow in games and sales out of the gate. A price adjustment along with the games will help over a long period of time no doubt in my mind.

 

 

 

Nike_Air

I don't think the pricedrop of the DS had much impact. It was the innovative games that created the demand, and those that demanded it had easier time deciding the purchase because of the price. You are talking about brand name like it was everything... N64 and Gamecube should've been the king then.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

When did Nintendo drop the price of the DS and what was the immediate impact ? Maybe that will put things into perspective. I see a lot of similarities in the DS and PS3. They both had the huge userbase and both were slow in games and sales out of the gate. A price adjustment along with the games will help over a long period of time no doubt in my mind.

 

 

 

gamespot813

I don't think the pricedrop of the DS had much impact. It was the innovative games that created the demand, and those that demanded it had easier time deciding the purchase because of the price. You are talking about brand name like it was everything... N64 and Gamecube should've been the king then.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]The PS3 is not losing. It is selling just as well as the PS1 and PS2 did in their first 6 months.jedigemini

Another thing I heard on 1upyours today: of the 3.5 million sold to retailers, 1.9 million of those are still on store shelves.  That means only 1.6 units are in actual use.  (Don't know if 1up was accurate here, but food for thought.)

[QUOTE="gamespot813"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

When did Nintendo drop the price of the DS and what was the immediate impact ? Maybe that will put things into perspective. I see a lot of similarities in the DS and PS3. They both had the huge userbase and both were slow in games and sales out of the gate. A price adjustment along with the games will help over a long period of time no doubt in my mind.

 

 

 

Nike_Air

I don't think the pricedrop of the DS had much impact. It was the innovative games that created the demand, and those that demanded it had easier time deciding the purchase because of the price. You are talking about brand name like it was everything... N64 and Gamecube should've been the king then.

I don't think I would be very happy if I were a Playstation fan because PS3 is not a very worthy purchase. So by your logic the PS3 would be doomed to failure?

The only thing that will save the PS3 at this point is a price drop and the utter obliteration of HD-DVD by Blu Ray. The latter is seemingly on its way to happening, with most of the big movie studios on their side, but the point is, if you're a basic consumer with an interest in Blu-Ray, are you going to spend the extra money for a game console + Blu-Ray player, or just get the player?

Almost definitely not. That's what most PS3 defenders fail to realize. And HD-DVD isn't going to go away without a fight, so PS3 might not be able to drop the price on the PS3 because of the expensive Blu-Ray.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="gamespot813"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

When did Nintendo drop the price of the DS and what was the immediate impact ? Maybe that will put things into perspective. I see a lot of similarities in the DS and PS3. They both had the huge userbase and both were slow in games and sales out of the gate. A price adjustment along with the games will help over a long period of time no doubt in my mind.

 

 

 

gamespot813

I don't think the pricedrop of the DS had much impact. It was the innovative games that created the demand, and those that demanded it had easier time deciding the purchase because of the price. You are talking about brand name like it was everything... N64 and Gamecube should've been the king then.

I don't think I would be very happy if I were a Playstation fan because PS3 is not a very worthy purchase.(opinion) So by your logic the PS3 would be doomed to failure? 

Instead of a price drop sony should just secure third partiy exclusives and work with developers to make release  dates of games come faster.  A price drop won't do anything if the console does not have any games to play on.

The declining sales of ps3 will continue until they come out with some worthy games.  I see a solid line up for fall for Sony but there competitions MS and Nintendo has a better game line up.

Prediction: Sony is going down!!!! 

The only thing that will save the PS3 at this point is a price drop and the utter obliteration of HD-DVD by Blu Ray. The latter is seemingly on its way to happening, with most of the big movie studios on their side, but the point is, if you're a basic consumer with an interest in Blu-Ray, are you going to spend the extra money for a game console + Blu-Ray player, or just get the player?

Almost definitely not. That's what most PS3 defenders fail to realize. And HD-DVD isn't going to go away without a fight, so PS3 might not be able to drop the price on the PS3 because of the expensive Blu-Ray.

Last_Stand

Stand-alone players cost more than a PS3. Argument over. 

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I know at least 6 people as well as my brother (all previous PS2 owners) that refuse to shell out the dough for a PS3, nor do they want a 360. Not only would they all buy a PS3 if it was priced similar to the 360, if they made Madden for the PS3 only and not the PS2(which would never happen due to sales), it would solidify their purchase. I think Sony's biggest enemy when it comes to sales is their own PS2, which is still a great console in the eyes of average gamers. Most gamers don't go to gaming sites, so a lot of opinions you see on these boards are complete nonsense in relation to what the average person is thinking. gamespot813

Newsflash: your 6 friends and your brothers does not = the world. Can't judge how a pricedrop will affect the PS3 just from your few sources. I do agree that the boards provide some biased information, but once in a while, we get people who have links to some great sources of evidence and they say the PS3's demand just isn't very high right now.

When did I equate them being = to the world? I was injecting my own experience into the conversation. I don't need a newsflash. I know actual human beings that would buy a PS3 if it wasn't priced so high. I don't need useless fanboy rants or links to understand why the PS3 isn't selling. The majority of people are casual gamers, and they aren't going to shell out 600 dollars for a system right now that plays Madden or other popular games. You underestimate the Sony name brand, which has an extremely high  brand recognition, for anyone not to realize this is being foolish. I'm not an owner of a PS3, but I'm also not going to lie to myself and say that they can't put out an amazing product. Sony just needs a few things to happen, and the flood gates are going to open up. Where are the 100 plus million PS2 owners at? I would bet they are waiting for A) More games that appeal to them to be released and B) A Price Drop. 

Far too many people here on SW bash Sony, and as someone on the outside of it all, just seems foolish.

Tell us what in your opinion will make the Ps3 win thenAgentA-Mi6

dude price drops mean more sales psp is one soon as they dropped the price it blew up in sells every were. if the ps3 drops its price combin that with all the awsome games that are coming out this holiday season and you got huge sells. now the zune on the other hand a price drop to $50 bucks woudnt save that lolistayonfireboy

[QUOTE="gamespot813"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="gamespot813"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

When did Nintendo drop the price of the DS and what was the immediate impact ? Maybe that will put things into perspective. I see a lot of similarities in the DS and PS3. They both had the huge userbase and both were slow in games and sales out of the gate. A price adjustment along with the games will help over a long period of time no doubt in my mind.

 

 

 

Nike_Air

I don't think the pricedrop of the DS had much impact. It was the innovative games that created the demand, and those that demanded it had easier time deciding the purchase because of the price. You are talking about brand name like it was everything... N64 and Gamecube should've been the king then.

I don't think I would be very happy if I were a Playstation fan because PS3 is not a very worthy purchase.(opinion) So by your logic the PS3 would be doomed to failure? 

Uh, no... You are talking about fans saving game systems. Nintendo has always delivered quality systems and though Sony's Playstation has been good, the PS3 isn't. Why is a opinion if more people say that PS3 is unreliable when playing Blu Ray movies or has lags when playing games, crashes, and the 600 dollar price... Do you think any fans would still be loyal to the PS3? Only die hard fans.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Tell us what in your opinion will make the Ps3 win thenjedigemini

That would imply the complete lost of their pride as greatest gaming company of all time , I don't think they could even possibly consider that option ...

[QUOTE="istayonfireboy"]dude price drops mean more sales psp is one soon as they dropped the price it blew up in sells every were. if the ps3 drops its price combin that with all the awsome games that are coming out this holiday season and you got huge sells. now the zune on the other hand a price drop to $50 bucks woudnt save that lolNike_Air

syikkkkkkkkkkkkkkk not even the halo fans are going to by that ugly piece of ****

[QUOTE="Last_Stand"]

The only thing that will save the PS3 at this point is a price drop and the utter obliteration of HD-DVD by Blu Ray. The latter is seemingly on its way to happening, with most of the big movie studios on their side, but the point is, if you're a basic consumer with an interest in Blu-Ray, are you going to spend the extra money for a game console + Blu-Ray player, or just get the player?

Almost definitely not. That's what most PS3 defenders fail to realize. And HD-DVD isn't going to go away without a fight, so PS3 might not be able to drop the price on the PS3 because of the expensive Blu-Ray.

D_Znuhtz

Stand-alone players cost more than a PS3. Argument over.

1. If people go searching for a "blu-ray player" on an online store, doubtful a PS3 will appear right away. And many people may have a stigma against something they consider to be a "toy" or "video game player".

2. PS3 hardware isn't completely reliable, and people have had complaints about its Blu-Ray player. Some may avoid it for a more reliable product, especially when it's such a big investment.

3. We'll see whether the PS3's price stays lower than standalone players once/if Blu-Ray wins the format war. If it becomes more standardized, I doubt it.

[QUOTE="Last_Stand"]

The only thing that will save the PS3 at this point is a price drop and the utter obliteration of HD-DVD by Blu Ray. The latter is seemingly on its way to happening, with most of the big movie studios on their side, but the point is, if you're a basic consumer with an interest in Blu-Ray, are you going to spend the extra money for a game console + Blu-Ray player, or just get the player?

Almost definitely not. That's what most PS3 defenders fail to realize. And HD-DVD isn't going to go away without a fight, so PS3 might not be able to drop the price on the PS3 because of the expensive Blu-Ray.

D_Znuhtz

Stand-alone players cost more than a PS3. Argument over. 

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="istayonfireboy"]dude price drops mean more sales psp is one soon as they dropped the price it blew up in sells every were. if the ps3 drops its price combin that with all the awsome games that are coming out this holiday season and you got huge sells. now the zune on the other hand a price drop to $50 bucks woudnt save that lolistayonfireboy

syikkkkkkkkkkkkkkk not even the halo fans are going to by that ugly piece of ****