A question for the lemmings...

How many of you think it would have been a good idea for MS to have released an SKU like the Elite right from launch? How about that 12 mo warrenty that they recently amended which was previously 3 mo?

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Now imagin if PS3 had never been released?

For all you xbox fans who bash the PS3 and wish it off the market, do you remember these comments, "There will never be a game that will be played at 1080p this generation." Yeah...Bill Gates said that. And guess what? He ate those words. Simular comments were made about Blu-ray and since then they've released an HD-DVD add on but lacks the ablity to play games. Home will probably force MS to upgrade XBL to have better services or make if free.

My point?

If PS3 wasn't around, MS wouldn't even be trying. If you have any sence of excitement for the next high tech advancement in technololgy and gaming then betting / plotting / hopeing / aiding to spread propaganda to try and advance the demise of the PS3 is the worse thing you could possibly do.

Even if you are a die hard 360 fan, wishing that the PS3was off the market is one of the most ignorant things you could wish for. It's pretty much the only reason why the360 is a good as it is right now. Thanks to what they learned from PS2 the realize they need japanese content to have a fully appealing system. What they are learning from PS3 now is that they need better features and hardware.If you wish for the PS3 and Sony to be absnet from the gaming market and you are an xbox360 fan...you are also wishing for the limitation of advancements intechnology and services for games now...and in the future.

P.S.

if you don't think the orignal xbox360 needed/needs any improvement at all, or don't care about advances in gaming technology or services to the consumer...ignore my post.

Elite is nothing to me. Premium fits me perfectly, I didn't need to read past the first paragraph because I didn't need to.braydee1234

If you didnt' read past my first paragraph then you missed my whole point. Good going.

I'm an Xbox 360 fan and I certainely don't wish the PS3 was off the market, competition is good. Equally, PS3 fans should recognise that had the Xbox not come along last generation with online and a hard drive and good graphics, the PS3 wouldn't be as good as it is today, either.Newnab

I agree...

I'm an Xbox 360 fan and I certainely don't wish the PS3 was off the market, competition is good. Equally, PS3 fans should recognise that had the Xbox not come along last generation with online and a hard drive and good graphics, the PS3 wouldn't be as good as it is today, either.Newnab

"competition is good"

congratulations on realizing one of the fundamental concepts behind capitalism - the only system Xbox 360 fans want off the market is the Wii, and that's simply because devloper budgets are a zero-sum game.
subrosian

No GAMERS want it off the market:|

[QUOTE="subrosian"]"competition is good"

congratulations on realizing one of the fundamental concepts behind capitalism - the only system Xbox 360 fans want off the market is the Wii, and that's simply because devloper budgets are a zero-sum game.
Taz720

No GAMERS want it off the market:|

Same thing with gaming - I want the little white devil buried along with the Virtual Boy, Atari 5200, and all the other profiteering dreck. I don't need to want my hobby to be ruined by the masses to call myself a gamer, thanks.

"Home will force xbox live to upgrade"

:lol: Cows....

I'm a gamer, I want the Wii *gone* - I want a Nintendo console that pushes the envelop, not one that brings your grandma to the videogame aisle with me. I'm fine with my hobbies being niche, just as I don't want Games Workshop to sell out by making a Pokemon tabletop wargame, I don't want gaming to be sold out to the lowest common denominator.

It's a passion and art, why should we hand it to people who view it as just another form of entertainment? Hollywood did the same thing with movies in the 70s / 80s - now the masses are watching crap like Spiderman 3 ("oh, it's a great movie") while the indie scene has only just come off life support in the past decade or so. I mean, I'm sure someone thought Star Wars Episode I - III were "cinema masterpieces" but, uh, yeah, thanks, I'd rather go to the Enzian and watch cinema than subject myself to "the movies".

Same thing with gaming - I want the little white devil buried along with the Virtual Boy, Atari 5200, and all the other profiteering dreck. I don't need to want my hobby to be ruined by the masses to call myself a gamer, thanks.

subrosian

I agree with what you're saying about games, but the movie comments are incredibly pretentious...

How many of you think it would have been a good idea for MS to have released an SKU like the Elite right from launch? How about that 12 mo warrenty that they recently amended which was previously 3 mo?

Now imagin if PS3 had never been released?

For all you xbox fans who bash the PS3 and wish it off the market, do you remember these comments, "There will never be a game that will be played at 1080p this generation." Yeah...Bill Gates said that. And guess what? He ate those words. Simular comments were made about Blu-ray and since then they've released an HD-DVD add on but lacks the ablity to play games. Home will probably force MS to upgrade XBL to have better services or make if free.

My point?

If PS3 wasn't around, MS wouldn't even be trying. If you have any sence of excitement for the next high tech advancement in technololgy and gaming then betting / plotting / hopeing / aiding to spread propaganda to try and advance the demise of the PS3 is the worse thing you could possibly do.

Even if you are a die hard 360 fan, wishing that the PS3was off the market is one of the most ignorant things you could wish for. It's pretty much the only reason why the360 is a good as it is right now. Thanks to what they learned from PS2 the realize they need japanese content to have a fully appealing system. What they are learning from PS3 now is that they need better features and hardware.If you wish for the PS3 and Sony to be absnet from the gaming market and you are an xbox360 fan...you are also wishing for the limitation of advancements intechnology and services for games now...and in the future.

P.S.

if you don't think the orignal xbox360 needed/needs any improvement at all, or don't care about advances in gaming technology or services to the consumer...ignore my post.

proof11102

I'm going to have to disagree. The only direct influence the PS3 had on the xbox 360 is the creation of the elite; an attempt to get rid of the marketing image sony created with their console being the "high class" model. Microsoft needed something to stop people being brainwashed by that idea, so came out with the elite.

The longer warranty was presumably an attempt to combat the bad press about build quality. Other than those two changes, the xbox 360 is exactly what it is on it's own. To say it'd be nowhere as good without the PS3 is just nonsense, because it was released as it is a year before the playstation 3. If anything, it's the PS3 which has been influenced by the xbox. The attempt to make the controller better of FPS and driving, the home button which is a complete rip of the guide button, and now Home; which you automatically assume MUST be better than xbox live. How i dont know. They're barely even the same thing.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

I'm a gamer, I want the Wii *gone* - I want a Nintendo console that pushes the envelop, not one that brings your grandma to the videogame aisle with me. I'm fine with my hobbies being niche, just as I don't want Games Workshop to sell out by making a Pokemon tabletop wargame, I don't want gaming to be sold out to the lowest common denominator.

It's a passion and art, why should we hand it to people who view it as just another form of entertainment? Hollywood did the same thing with movies in the 70s / 80s - now the masses are watching crap like Spiderman 3 ("oh, it's a great movie") while the indie scene has only just come off life support in the past decade or so. I mean, I'm sure someone thought Star Wars Episode I - III were "cinema masterpieces" but, uh, yeah, thanks, I'd rather go to the Enzian and watch cinema than subject myself to "the movies".

Same thing with gaming - I want the little white devil buried along with the Virtual Boy, Atari 5200, and all the other profiteering dreck. I don't need to want my hobby to be ruined by the masses to call myself a gamer, thanks.

Ninja-Vox

I agree with what you're saying about games, but the movie comments are incredibly pretentious...

And when it comes to gaming, I'll support people like Silicon Knights, Clover Studios, Epic, Blizzard, Bioware, et cetera before I'll support EA, Ubisoft, and the Nintendo Wii philosophy.

good gaming is going to die because of the Wii
Taz720

Agreed