A reality check for people bashing Nintendo for rehashing or using old franchise

Many people seem to bash Nintendo with their supposed rehash or producing games with the same franchises. But is anyone here like me who is a newcomer to Nintendo? I may have played Super Mario Bros. from Famicom in my early years of childhood but after that, i grew up with Blizzard (Warcraft II, Diablo II, Starcraft). I was a PC ONLY gamer. Believe it or not, the Wii is my very first console and i'm 19 years old now gonna be 20 later this year. The Famicom from which i played Super Mario Bros was only available in my kindergarten school. There was a specific amount of time we could play on it and it was only SMB that was available, no other game. I haven't played any other 2d Mario except for Super Mario Deluxe for Gameboy Color which i had back then.

TP was the very first Zelda game i've ever played. DKCR is the only Donkey Kong game i've played. Metroid Prime 3 is the only Metroid game i've played. The first time i played SM64 was on DS not N64. I haven't played a Starfox, F-Zero, or Pikmin game yet.

My point is when people bash Nintendo for rehashing or using old franchises, they have never thought that there may be hundreds to thousands of people out there who may have not played the classics or get acquainted with a franchise yet. You can never understand when i played TP for the very first time or for other people to have just gotten acquainted with a franchise. A sense of new adventure to come. Am i in the minority? Or am i actually a part of the majority just that the others don't come here in GS forums?

I grew up during the SNES and N64 days and I loved Nintendo growing up. Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask, and Super Mario 64 are some of my favorite games of all time but Nintendo games just don't interest me now that I'm older. Its like Nintendo failed to evolve their franchises with the people who grew up playing them.

I grew up during the SNES and N64 days and I loved Nintendo growing up. Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask, and Super Mario 64 are some of my favorite games of all time but Nintendo games just don't interest me now that I'm older. Its like Nintendo failed to evolve their franchises with the people who grew up playing them.

DillonShwing

The Wii is my first Nintendo console as well.

I grew up with Nintendo and like the previous poster said they haven't evolved but instead devolved. Their games have gotten smaller, more linear, and incredibly easier.The only good thing to come out of Nintendo this gen for the wii was Donkey Kong Country Returns. After Skyward Sword there is nothing for the wii that interests me even in the slightest.

I grew up during the SNES and N64 days and I loved Nintendo growing up. Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask, and Super Mario 64 are some of my favorite games of all time but Nintendo games just don't interest me now that I'm older. Its like Nintendo failed to evolve their franchises with the people who grew up playing them.

DillonShwing

I never understand this argument. That's like asking the Mickey Mouse and Alice in Wonderland segments of Disney Land to evolve and become more appealing to the mature crowd just because they liked it when they were kids. Not only that, I know plenty of adults, including myself, who have a ton of interest in the new Mario, Zelda and Metroid games, along with many other 1st party franchises. They're not just for kids.

I grew up with Nintendo and like the previous poster said they haven't evolved but instead devolved. Their games have gotten smaller, more linear, and incredibly easier.The only good thing to come out of Nintendo this gen for the wii was Donkey Kong Country Returns. After Skyward Sword there is nothing for the wii that interests me even in the slightest.

Jolt_counter119

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

I grew up with Nintendo and like the previous poster said they haven't evolved but instead devolved. Their games have gotten smaller, more linear, and incredibly easier.The only good thing to come out of Nintendo this gen for the wii was Donkey Kong Country Returns. After Skyward Sword there is nothing for the wii that interests me even in the slightest.

lordlors

Why should I think about anybody other than myself when it comes to video games. I couldnt care less about people just starting gaming, or just starting with Nintendo the fact is they were known for bringing their franchises and upping the ante every new console. Now they're content with just same old same old, maybe its fine for you, but like I said I dont care.

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

I grew up with Nintendo and like the previous poster said they haven't evolved but instead devolved. Their games have gotten smaller, more linear, and incredibly easier.The only good thing to come out of Nintendo this gen for the wii was Donkey Kong Country Returns. After Skyward Sword there is nothing for the wii that interests me even in the slightest.

Jolt_counter119

Why should I think about anybody other than myself when it comes to video games. I couldnt care less about people just starting gaming, or just starting with Nintendo the fact is they were known for bringing their franchises and upping the ante every new console. Now they're content with just same old same old, maybe its fine for you, but like I said I dont care.

saying "so and so" haven't played it yet can be said about ANY GAME FRANCHISE, as a kid i played the crap out of mario, i was never into zelda and never into donkey kong really much. Whelp fast forward and guess what nintendo still has, Mario, zelda, and donkey kong and that just seems all their ever going to have, so why would i buy a console that doesn't try to expand its original IP'S. PS3 brought me little big planet, so much fun in this game because it was a fresh idea, give power to create to its players. Nintendo then gives me a blatant knock off of it, NEW SUPER MARIO BROS WII with the 4 player co-op, though i heard the single player was legit. This is why i haven't owned a nintendo console, i'm not into mario, zelda, and donkey kong so whats their for me on the nintendo console? I wanna see what else miyamoto can do, i still cannot fathom why he hasn't created a new character, a new story, new music, new world. He's just a one trick pony, even hideo kojima has gone on and wants to do things outside of metal gear. Even the final fantasy creator has left the final fantasy series to do new things "lost oddessy". just saying.

Why should I think about anybody other than myself when it comes to video games. I couldnt care less about people just starting gaming, or just starting with Nintendo the fact is they were known for bringing their franchises and upping the ante every new console. Now they're content with just same old same old, maybe its fine for you, but like I said I dont care.Jolt_counter119

saying "so and so" haven't played it yet can be said about ANY GAME FRANCHISE, as a kid i played the crap out of mario, i was never into zelda and never into donkey kong really much. Whelp fast forward and guess what nintendo still has, Mario, zelda, and donkey kong and that just seems all their ever going to have, so why would i buy a console that doesn't try to expand its original IP'S. PS3 brought me little big planet, so much fun in this game because it was a fresh idea, give power to create to its players. Nintendo then gives me a blatant knock off of it, NEW SUPER MARIO BROS WII with the 4 player co-op, though i heard the single player was legit. This is why i haven't owned a nintendo console, i'm not into mario, zelda, and donkey kong so whats their for me on the nintendo console? I wanna see what else miyamoto can do, i still cannot fathom why he hasn't created a new character, a new story, new music, new world. He's just a one trick pony, even hideo kojima has gone on and wants to do things outside of metal gear. Even the final fantasy creator has left the final fantasy series to do new things "lost oddessy". just saying.

Chris_Williams

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saying "so and so" haven't played it yet can be said about ANY GAME FRANCHISE, as a kid i played the crap out of mario, i was never into zelda and never into donkey kong really much. Whelp fast forward and guess what nintendo still has, Mario, zelda, and donkey kong and that just seems all their ever going to have, so why would i buy a console that doesn't try to expand its original IP'S. PS3 brought me little big planet, so much fun in this game because it was a fresh idea, give power to create to its players. Nintendo then gives me a blatant knock off of it, NEW SUPER MARIO BROS WII with the 4 player co-op, though i heard the single player was legit. This is why i haven't owned a nintendo console, i'm not into mario, zelda, and donkey kong so whats their for me on the nintendo console? I wanna see what else miyamoto can do, i still cannot fathom why he hasn't created a new character, a new story, new music, new world. He's just a one trick pony, even hideo kojima has gone on and wants to do things outside of metal gear. Even the final fantasy creator has left the final fantasy series to do new things "lost oddessy". just saying.

lordlors

ok I see your point but it's not like Sony is making another Crash Bandicoot or even Jak and Daxter. Hell probably Shadow of the Collossus would make another appearance if it was making nintendo exclusive games, they're not milking it like Nintendo where Zelda was on like over a decade ago, same with Mario they actually stop on the next console. Can't really say for Microsoft's Halo though, except every one that came out is GRADE A except Wars IMO.

Now waiting for Uncharted: Racing as Naughty Dog has a pattern.

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

saying "so and so" haven't played it yet can be said about ANY GAME FRANCHISE, as a kid i played the crap out of mario, i was never into zelda and never into donkey kong really much. Whelp fast forward and guess what nintendo still has, Mario, zelda, and donkey kong and that just seems all their ever going to have, so why would i buy a console that doesn't try to expand its original IP'S. PS3 brought me little big planet, so much fun in this game because it was a fresh idea, give power to create to its players. Nintendo then gives me a blatant knock off of it, NEW SUPER MARIO BROS WII with the 4 player co-op, though i heard the single player was legit. This is why i haven't owned a nintendo console, i'm not into mario, zelda, and donkey kong so whats their for me on the nintendo console? I wanna see what else miyamoto can do, i still cannot fathom why he hasn't created a new character, a new story, new music, new world. He's just a one trick pony, even hideo kojima has gone on and wants to do things outside of metal gear. Even the final fantasy creator has left the final fantasy series to do new things "lost oddessy". just saying.

Chris_Williams

Grew up with them. Still not tired.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="lordlors"] oh my you called Miyamoto a one trick pony and comparing him to other developers. Some gamers these days really have no respect. Does humanity still have chances? *facepalm i'm not gonna bother with you anymore it's not worth it.

lordlors

how is that disrespcting him? also if you would read i said i respect what he has done for the videogame industry, i don't know the guy, so i can't truly respect him. So yeah he's a one trick pony to me, i would say the same thing to any developer who just does the same thing every generation. I like originality. also i'm not into mario and zelda, and donkey kong like you are, so what else is there for me if i would get a nintendo system that i couldn't get on my ps3?

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] some gamers these days really have no respect? hahaha did you just say that, i understand the great contributions that miyamoto has given the gaming world, he actually was the one to save videogames in a way. I respect the guy, just because i don't worship the ground he walks on i have no respect? hahahaha, i stand by what i said and he's a one trick pony, thats my opinion and i respect that you don't agree with me thats fine. But until he actually comes out with a new game that doesn't have to deal with mario, zelda or donkey kong then i stand by what i said. I'm sure its not a popular opinion but you'll get over it.Chris_Williams

how is that disrespcting him? also if you would read i said i respect what he has done for the videogame industry, i don't know the guy, so i can't truly respect him. So yeah he's a one trick pony to me, i would say the same thing to any developer who just does the same thing every generation. I like originality. also i'm not into mario and zelda, and donkey kong like you are, so what else is there for me if i would get a nintendo system that i couldn't get on my ps3?

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[QUOTE="lordlors"] you just said you respect him so respecting=one trick pony eh? if you respect someone you badmouth him? i will never understand what "respect" means to Westerners anymore. lordlors

how is that disrespcting him? also if you would read i said i respect what he has done for the videogame industry, i don't know the guy, so i can't truly respect him. So yeah he's a one trick pony to me, i would say the same thing to any developer who just does the same thing every generation. I like originality. also i'm not into mario and zelda, and donkey kong like you are, so what else is there for me if i would get a nintendo system that i couldn't get on my ps3?

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

how is that disrespcting him? also if you would read i said i respect what he has done for the videogame industry, i don't know the guy, so i can't truly respect him. So yeah he's a one trick pony to me, i would say the same thing to any developer who just does the same thing every generation. I like originality. also i'm not into mario and zelda, and donkey kong like you are, so what else is there for me if i would get a nintendo system that i couldn't get on my ps3?

Chris_Williams

We're lucky if we get 2 Zelda games a generation. Wii only got one (TP is a GC game). Teh Milkage.SaltyMeatballs

i started with the gameboy advance and gamecube...

but i played the n64 before anything else :P

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]Why should I think about anybody other than myself when it comes to video games. I couldnt care less about people just starting gaming, or just starting with Nintendo the fact is they were known for bringing their franchises and upping the ante every new console. Now they're content with just same old same old, maybe its fine for you, but like I said I dont care.foxhound_fox

Galaxy was just 64 but more linear. It was pretty different but it was mario. New super Mario Bros Wii was just New Super Mario Bros ds it was a new game but it was the same. KEY was just another cute platformer that was all style no substance but too be fair it was different, the new one looks to change that though. OOT was a masterpiece and Mario 64 was great I wasnt knocking the 64 or gamecube versions it's the wii games that are the problem. Nintendo used to do drastic changes to its games and when it wasnt it was making it bigger and better and harder. Now it feels like Nintendo just wants to get those names out but they arent as adventurous as they used to be.

good point not everyone played mario from 1985 and onword

good point not everyone played mario from 1985 and onword

dontshackzmii

Yeah while us old gamers who played since the first Mario find the franchise to be humongously milked, there are a lot of young new gamers who just start to know him and for that I'm glad.

Many people seem to bash Nintendo with their supposed rehash or producing games with the same franchises. But is anyone here like me who is a newcomer to Nintendo? I may have played Super Mario Bros. from Famicom in my early years of childhood but after that, i grew up with Blizzard (Warcraft II, Diablo II, Starcraft). I was a PC ONLY gamer. Believe it or not, the Wii is my very first console and i'm 19 years old now gonna be 20 later this year. The Famicom from which i played Super Mario Bros was only available in my kindergarten school. There was a specific amount of time we could play on it and it was only SMB that was available, no other game. I haven't played any other 2d Mario except for Super Mario Deluxe for Gameboy Color which i had back then.

TP was the very first Zelda game i've ever played. DKCR is the only Donkey Kong game i've played. Metroid Prime 3 is the only Metroid game i've played. The first time i played SM64 was on DS not N64. I haven't played a Starfox, F-Zero, or Pikmin game yet.

My point is when people bash Nintendo for rehashing or using old franchises, they have never thought that there may be hundreds to thousands of people out there who may have not played the classics or get acquainted with a franchise yet. You can never understand when i played TP for the very first time or for other people to have just gotten acquainted with a franchise. A sense of new adventure to come. Am i in the minority? Or am i actually a part of the majority just that the others don't come here in GS forums?

lordlors

Been gaming on Nintendo systems since the SNES and have owned everyone since. Now I also own a PS3 and PS2 this gen and start PC gaming a few year back.

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

I grew up during the SNES and N64 days and I loved Nintendo growing up. Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask, and Super Mario 64 are some of my favorite games of all time but Nintendo games just don't interest me now that I'm older. Its like Nintendo failed to evolve their franchises with the people who grew up playing them.

arkephonic

I never understand this argument. That's like asking the Mickey Mouse and Alice in Wonderland segments of Disney Land to evolve and become more appealing to the mature crowd just because they liked it when they were kids. Not only that, I know plenty of adults, including myself, who have a ton of interest in the new Mario, Zelda and Metroid games, along with many other 1st party franchises. They're not just for kids.

I dont care if they remake zeldas and marios. I LOVED THOSE GAMES GROWING UP. However I just wish nintendo would put some work into creating new franchises and updating their overall gaming platform.

yea but everyone here is mostly experienced gamers...so we played a lot of stuff already.

excuse me nintendos games have always evolved , k

in fact nintendos seams to be the only one to put somthing new to the table with their consoles ,

and if you dont think the games of todays outside first party , ,

havent devolved your wrong

id like you to take a look at a few first person shooter games then compare them to many of hte ones we have today

ill staRT OFF WITH the grand daddy of all fpses on consoles that were succesful

goldeneye 007 ,, thank you very much

20 single player mssions /levels some big some medium and some smaller ones, but hey you can go back through all of them wait i mean you have to -- to get unlockable cheats and such

and goldeneye wasnt only known for its long and extensive/fun singleplayer mode but once you hit multiplayer mode,

your gonna have a blast ,

on to perfect dark-this single fps evolved what goldeneye was and turned it into even more fun- same near 20 mission /level expeirence all different levels of course, ,cheats are in there again

and had even more to do outside it ,

in the carrington institute you could do the firring range getting all golds unlocked old weapons for uise in single player-the weapons are from goldeneye

then on multiplayer you could do all you did in goldeneye plus play against ai ,and doing challenges unlocks things in multiplayer 30 in all ,

dont get me started on the advanced options or charactr selection or guns selection , the only games that compete with this are coming up in my info box

-timesplitters --- started out linear single player, but still the multiplayer although not related to pd or 007 is just like it just improved infact , its got a map makier added to the mix and fun modes of play like bag tag or somthing next up

timesplitters 2- much better then ts 1 more goldeneye/pd like sp expeirence and a more extensive multiplayer mode , with a map maker as well as challenges like pd you have to complete these to unlock stuff in mp , and cheats to and in the sp there is 3 cartridges with cellphone like games on them which adds to the fun ,

the best modes of this game = flame tag deathmatch and virus , and theres 100 characters as well as alot of guns and such to choose from

the last in the series so far -ts fp added more realistic graphics the only downside to this is 1 less game mode-flame tag is gone and you no longer need to unlock maps but you still gotta unlock guns characters cheats and such , and all 4 of these games had co -op except 1 i think pd ts 2 and 3 all had co op

and heres a comparision to some of hte popular fpses today -on side note ts3 had onlineplay -and pd on xbla has online play so does the remake of ge which lacks cheats

halo 3 and up , , theres only 10 missions no unlockables - cutscenes is all you unlock i think for collecting skulls, besides achievments which is a number thats useless there is nothing for sp ,after 1 play through youll understand , why , and multiplayer gets repetitive there isnt no fun gamemodes like ones mentioned in timesplitters all they got is your basic game modes-dm, tdm flag tag and other modes that deal with killing each other,

and heres a recent bond game--

bloodstone , , this has to be the worst ones ever , the sp will last a few hours , htats nothing compared to goldeneye wii/n64

and its multiplayer only consist of 3 game modes, -- not somthing to smile at since goldeneye had 5 at least plus 4 team modes

theres no way to change guns no split screen either, only online play -which for us 360 users is unfortunate to have to pay for this game cause this game is horendous

at least nintendo kept what was fun

and for a final comparision , on why this gens third party is disappointing

well just look at the store shelfs, what do you see

me i see 20 or more different shooting games , and none of these will last you over 10 hours - conflict denied ops for example , i neverp layed a fps so bad this just takes the cake , and for the love of god who came up with nascar 2011 because when they said realistic damage - they must have been joking because that is not even realistic looking and the caution flag takes for ever to wave compared to one on n64 etc

im sorry but this gen is de evolving to me

all online shallow single player campaignes take cod 4 for example in fact every cod game since 3 ,, i beat 5 cod games in a day , i wish i could do this back in the n64 or last gen

at least the fpses then where funner and more compelling and the shelfs were not flooded with them

so saying nintendo is de evolving is a understatment , fact is , games are not as fun any more compared to last gen or the gens before that ,

i remember fun games like top gear rock n roll racing zombies ate my neighbors stunt race star fox super mariokart mario bros dkc spyro ps1-crash ps1 nfs ps1 , and even games on gc ps2 xbox that i had fun with ,

if you aked me what i d remember about this gen , well itll be mostly wii games because i dont see how any body can play the 360 ps3 titles after they played out the mp and what sp they have ,you can bet that theyll put those games down , dont get me wrong there is a small portion of 360 ps3 games i find fun , and like i said its mostly first or 2nd party titles,

3rd party has gone shallow, only games i d play for hours is saints row and gta and maybe a racing game , but other then tha,t ya you can throw in the towel , b ecause its not nintendo thats devolving

its the entire line of third party studios thats devolving ,

they have run out of ideas , take a look at their line up every year --- cod this cod that madden this wwe that , and sims , there has to be another game besides fpses , but there isnt

you know i was suprised mk made a return if only top gear could make one or they make a zombies ate my nieghbors 2 , and a proper resident evil game isnt to much to ask for either so ya

point is , if you wanna say nintendo is devolving then you might as well say the others have already done so

Lots of stuff.

mariokart64fan

Im pretty sure this was directed to me and there's no way I'm reading all of that but the last thing you said I'll agree with. This gen has been all sequels but there have been a lot of new ips like Bioshock, Uncharted, Gears, Batman Arkham, etc. Nintendo seems content with It's tried and true Mario, and Zelda. They haven't come up with a single true new ip outside of wii_.

It's not rehashing a game when every installment is very different from the last.

N64 gen: OoT is a completley different game from MM.

GC gen: WW is very different from TP.

Trust me, Ninty doesn't rehash gameplay, maybe characters yeah, but it's tough to complain when they release games like Super Mario Galaxy.

grew up on Nintendo, then jumped to PS2 and i have never seemed to go back, with the exception of the DS.

I recognize my love of Nintendo as mostly nastalgia.

Also being that my wishlist is constantly fairly large for my PS3 ALONE, and that God and/Or Nature deemed it we only get 12 horus of day light - there are only so many horus in the day. So Nintendo sadly gets the boot.

I will say this much the Nintendo 3DS... I might get it, I might just do it... that or the PSVita, i'm still debating with myself.

So your defence for Nintendo's offerings is that it's fresh to noobs?

Well... that's kinda what experienced players have been saying all this time isn't it? :|

I'm glad that some franchises, like SMB, have survived the test of time. I started gaming on an Atari, but my fondest memories as a child were on my NES. So now 20+ years later I still enjoy games like NSMB and SMG, but what makes me happier than the fact that I get to play these long lived franchises as an adult is that I am now able to re-live the magic of these beloved franchises through the eyes of the younger children in my life. It makes me happy inside when my nephew is sitting beside me playing a new Mario game on his Wii, and when he gets stuck he hands his controller over my way to get him out of a jam. I hope that the young gamers out there get to experience Metroid, Zelda and Mario in the years to come. It's true that some franchises have been milked, but as long as they continue to be milked in a promising way you'll never hear me complain.

Many people seem to bash Nintendo with their supposed rehash or producing games with the same franchises. But is anyone here like me who is a newcomer to Nintendo? I may have played Super Mario Bros. from Famicom in my early years of childhood but after that, i grew up with Blizzard (Warcraft II, Diablo II, Starcraft). I was a PC ONLY gamer. Believe it or not, the Wii is my very first console and i'm 19 years old now gonna be 20 later this year. The Famicom from which i played Super Mario Bros was only available in my kindergarten school. There was a specific amount of time we could play on it and it was only SMB that was available, no other game. I haven't played any other 2d Mario except for Super Mario Deluxe for Gameboy Color which i had back then.

TP was the very first Zelda game i've ever played. DKCR is the only Donkey Kong game i've played. Metroid Prime 3 is the only Metroid game i've played. The first time i played SM64 was on DS not N64. I haven't played a Starfox, F-Zero, or Pikmin game yet.

My point is when people bash Nintendo for rehashing or using old franchises, they have never thought that there may be hundreds to thousands of people out there who may have not played the classics or get acquainted with a franchise yet. You can never understand when i played TP for the very first time or for other people to have just gotten acquainted with a franchise. A sense of new adventure to come. Am i in the minority? Or am i actually a part of the majority just that the others don't come here in GS forums?

lordlors

Many people seem to bash Nintendo with their supposed rehash or producing games with the same franchises. But is anyone here like me who is a newcomer to Nintendo? I may have played Super Mario Bros. from Famicom in my early years of childhood but after that, i grew up with Blizzard (Warcraft II, Diablo II, Starcraft). I was a PC ONLY gamer. Believe it or not, the Wii is my very first console and i'm 19 years old now gonna be 20 later this year. The Famicom from which i played Super Mario Bros was only available in my kindergarten school. There was a specific amount of time we could play on it and it was only SMB that was available, no other game. I haven't played any other 2d Mario except for Super Mario Deluxe for Gameboy Color which i had back then.

TP was the very first Zelda game i've ever played. DKCR is the only Donkey Kong game i've played. Metroid Prime 3 is the only Metroid game i've played. The first time i played SM64 was on DS not N64. I haven't played a Starfox, F-Zero, or Pikmin game yet.

My point is when people bash Nintendo for rehashing or using old franchises, they have never thought that there may be hundreds to thousands of people out there who may have not played the classics or get acquainted with a franchise yet. You can never understand when i played TP for the very first time or for other people to have just gotten acquainted with a franchise. A sense of new adventure to come. Am i in the minority? Or am i actually a part of the majority just that the others don't come here in GS forums?

lordlors

So your defence for Nintendo's offerings is that it's fresh to noobs?

Well... that's kinda what experienced players have been saying all this time isn't it? :|

FragTycoon

[QUOTE="lordlors"]

Many people seem to bash Nintendo with their supposed rehash or producing games with the same franchises. But is anyone here like me who is a newcomer to Nintendo? I may have played Super Mario Bros. from Famicom in my early years of childhood but after that, i grew up with Blizzard (Warcraft II, Diablo II, Starcraft). I was a PC ONLY gamer. Believe it or not, the Wii is my very first console and i'm 19 years old now gonna be 20 later this year. The Famicom from which i played Super Mario Bros was only available in my kindergarten school. There was a specific amount of time we could play on it and it was only SMB that was available, no other game. I haven't played any other 2d Mario except for Super Mario Deluxe for Gameboy Color which i had back then.

TP was the very first Zelda game i've ever played. DKCR is the only Donkey Kong game i've played. Metroid Prime 3 is the only Metroid game i've played. The first time i played SM64 was on DS not N64. I haven't played a Starfox, F-Zero, or Pikmin game yet.

My point is when people bash Nintendo for rehashing or using old franchises, they have never thought that there may be hundreds to thousands of people out there who may have not played the classics or get acquainted with a franchise yet. You can never understand when i played TP for the very first time or for other people to have just gotten acquainted with a franchise. A sense of new adventure to come. Am i in the minority? Or am i actually a part of the majority just that the others don't come here in GS forums?

Crashjak