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#1 peter1191
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System Wars is just that: a battle were fans defend their favorite console. I am here, however, to look at each console objectively and to crush the stupid misconceptions that have been plagueing these boards (I will try to keep the wall of text small).

      First the most controversal: the PS3. Lovers of the Wii and the 360 claim it will completely bomb out and fail because of high price and bad launch games. Supports claim that, with time, it will churn out beautiful games that will captivate more than anything on the Wii and 360. Both sides maybe be right, but they have a stupid misconception: a high-end console, with a large price tag, yet beautiful graphics, will succeed/fail thanks to time/price. Tell me this: did you know that the PS2 was the weakest console last gen? Did you know that the PSP was the strongest handheld this gen? Both sold well, yet one is at the forefront of gaming, the other behind it competitior. What do these parallels in gaming history tell you? Price matters! Time matters! The PS3 will end up much the same as the PSP, but with greater support. Yet, all PS3 games are essentailly PS2 ports with better graphics. Will you argue me at this point? THe controller is essentially the same as the PS2 controller. THe graphics may add to the experience, but so did the PSP to handhelds. Well, I can argue on and on, but I will move on; I await debates on these points, and expect them.

  Second: the Xbox 360. I want to start off by saying that by releasing one year early, Microsoft has ensured their survivial this gen. With new games that take advantage of its graphical capability, they show gamers what their machine can do. Yet there is something wrong with it that will keep it from first place this gen: demographics. Have you released that the best games on this console are shooters? Those games appeal to people like me: teenage boys. Nothing else. Also, the amount of these games will limit shooter fans (that are more casual) to buy only the best shooters out there (Halo 3, etc.). Only a few GOOD games on this console are located outside this genre (Fable 2, etc.) Will the 360 is ensured a close 3rd place ore 2nd place, there is very little reason to believe the 360 will be #1. Unlike the playstation, which even casual know, the 360 targets a specific demographic and suceeds well.

  Finally, the second most conterversal: the Wii. I personally just got one, so I obviusly like it, but I will keep this as objective as possible. The big plus of the Wii is that it appeals, in some way, to every demographic. Much like the PS3, but in a much broder sense: it appeals to the so called "non-gamers." Of course, this is a vague concept, but we will move on. Essentially the Wii trades in a massive graphic update for motion sensetivity. This leads to the false, down right stupid, misconception that it can barely pass up the xbox in the graphics department. Solely on specs it can achieve graphics twice as good as the PS2, which was able to churn out the beautiful God of War 2. Another misconception is that third party support is weak for the console. Initially yes, but as it began to sell, every third party developer jumped in. Not only is it cheaper to develop for, but it is also easier to achieve quality graphics because of its similarity to the last gen consoles (yet quality graphics have yet to be shown). I will say this to Wii haters: it has smaller life span than the PS3. It might last 5 years, but thats it, while the PS3 has a chance to last 10 years.

      All in all, if you survived this wall of text, you will understand my standing on the down right stupid misconceptions. Yes, all three consoles have their weaknesses, but also they have strengths: the PS3 will a huge life span, 360 with great appeal to most of the gamer demographic, and the Wii with its appeal to all. Once you come to appreciate every console, you will be able to support yours without any out-of-place ideas clouding your thoughts.

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#5 ranger_waha
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Stop bumping, if no one says anything, there's a reason.
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#6 Pangster007
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You do realise this is too much for many who lurk in SW?
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#7 Nagidar
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Wow, bumped his own thread 3 damn times...
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#8 peter1191
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I rather people contribute than complain about how many times I bumped the topic please...........
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#9 Nagidar
Member since 2006 • 6231 Posts

I rather people contribute than complain about how many times I bumped the topic please...........peter1191

 Starving for attention or what? If no one wants to participate, than just drop it and leave it alone.

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#10 Corvin
Member since 2002 • 7266 Posts
Sorry, I'll be honest I only skimmed it real quick. I'm sure what you are trying to say is valiant but understand, there are two particular types of posts that SW sees dozens and dozens of on a daily basis. One is "Which is best Wii vs. PS3 vs. Xbox" and the other is "Why SW is a pointless waste of time and I will explain why everyone should get along." Your post clearly fits in to the second category. While its nice that the internet and forums gives everyone the ability to have an opinion and attempt to voice it, it really isn't anything that hasn't been said before. People are not prone to suddenly change opinion over a forum post so attempts to "clear up stupid misconceptions" on SW are usually ignored.
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#11 BigDizz
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Less words and people will read.

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#12 Socrates88
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PS3 is nothing more but a PS2 games with updated graphics. Wow.... you sir have the misconception.
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#13 helium_flash
Member since 2007 • 9244 Posts
I dont think anyone actually cares. :?  I guess we've just heard it so many times.

Your problems:
-too long, fanboys won't read
-not interesting (all real gamers have thought of all this already)
-not controversal enough
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#14 BK-Sleeper
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Stop bumping, if no one says anything, there's a reason.ranger_waha
And a good one too.
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#15 BK-Sleeper
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I will debunk all the theories the good ol' SW way: . . . No. . .
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#16 lilrush
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Less words and people will read.

BigDizz
Yeah definetly.
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#17 verbalfilth
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If most of you take the time to read his post, you might realize that he has some good points although I have to disagree with your post on the PS3 a more powerful system doesn't necessarily mean that it will fail to a less powerful one because the price matter. If you noticed, the original Xbox failed because it didn't have a huge library of games same goes for the PSP vs. DS war....psp just has watered down ports, if PS3 can somehow manage to create a wide array of games and give people their money's worth (no matter how much it is, just as long as you get what your paying for) it just might surpass the 360m and the wii all togather...but as far as how things have been going for it, I think it is highly unlikely. Good post though.
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#18 Hater3000
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No...and PSP is not just about Ports you know,i just got killzone Liberation.
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#19 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]If most of you take the time to read his post, you might realize that he has some good points although I have to disagree with your post on the PS3 a more powerful system doesn't necessarily mean that it will fail to a less powerful one because the price matter. If you noticed, the original Xbox failed because it didn't have a huge library of games same goes for the PSP vs. DS war....psp just has watered down ports, if PS3 can somehow manage to create a wide array of games and give people their money's worth (no matter how much it is, just as long as you get what your paying for) it just might surpass the 360m and the wii all togather...but as far as how things have been going for it, I think it is highly unlikely. Good post though.

NO.I hate this n00b.PSP has more than ports also they arent watered down.The PSP version of MUA beats the wii version also the MSC version of the PSP beat the Wii version as well. The port is just the average Ds fan excuse to dont get one....Gosh this n00bs.
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#20 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]If most of you take the time to read his post, you might realize that he has some good points although I have to disagree with your post on the PS3 a more powerful system doesn't necessarily mean that it will fail to a less powerful one because the price matter. If you noticed, the original Xbox failed because it didn't have a huge library of games same goes for the PSP vs. DS war....psp just has watered down ports, if PS3 can somehow manage to create a wide array of games and give people their money's worth (no matter how much it is, just as long as you get what your paying for) it just might surpass the 360m and the wii all togather...but as far as how things have been going for it, I think it is highly unlikely. Good post though.Hater3000
NO.I hate this n00b.PSP has more than ports also they arent watered down.The PSP version of MUA beats the wii version also the MSC version of the PSP beat the Wii version as well. The port is just the average Ds fan excuse to dont get one....Gosh this n00bs.

Hurray i won.I totally pwned you!!.
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#21 Mordred19
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I read the first part about the PS3 and that showed me everything about the TC's ignorance. anyone who has played resistance: fall of man can see how it is not a PS2 port. simple fact. the ps2 could never render the dozens of characters on screen at once as seen in RFOM, with AI, explosions, shrapnel, smoke, bullets, and ragdoll physics all with a totally steady framerate. I will say it again, do not pass yourselves off as peaceful neutral enlightened gamers if you are going to make blatent false assumptions about anything at all. I am sick of all this self-rightiousness.

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#22 Hater3000
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I read the first part about the PS3 and that showed me everything in the TC's eyes. anyone who has played resistance: fall of man can see how it is not a PS2 port. simple fact. the ps2 could never render the dozens of characters on screen at once as seen in ROFM, with AI, explosions, shrapnel, smoke, bullets, and ragdoll physics all with a totally steady framerate. I will say it again, do not pass yourselves off as peaceful neutral enlightened gamers if you are going to make blatent false assumptions about anything at all. I am sick of all this self-rightiousness.

Mordred19
So you just notive this is another Sony bashing thread?.Let it die.
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#23 haris12121212
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:lol: First time I see a tread bumped O.o Anyways there is no way I will read that nor will 99% of SW population.
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#24 Berserker_2
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You need to add headers for such a long read. Headers will allow us to get the jist of things and we may choose to read more.