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#1 trakem
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With the recent post about processing power some people on both the Xbox 360 and PS3 side seem to feel that there is some massive amount of processing power that we really haven't seen coming from one of these two consoles. I just wanted to see how many people feel that this is the case.

Personally, I think we've pretty much seen what we're going to see in terms of processing power. There'll be some cool new technologies to come out every now and again and some games will be made with some great new art directions and styles but I don't think there's much power to be tapped that hasn't already been tapped.

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#2 dragonfly110
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Im sure that there are areas in both of the consoles that has not yet been tappped. I mean, it is only half way through the generation, and I doubt that the devs ahve dscovered the full power of each of the consoles, i mean if they had the graphics for all the games would not get increasingly better each year would they?

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The 360 was pretty much maxed back in 2007 with what it can do. The PS3 is the same way on the gpu side, but the Cell has alot more headroom to grow in things like Ai and realtime physics. But thats it both consoles are using late 2005 early 2006 tech which are really outdated compared to even a low budget gaming pc of today.
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#4 OPuniverse
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im srry for beating the dead horse but.. oh well. Teh cell, its power is over 9000! untappable.

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The 360 was pretty much maxed back in 2007 with what it can do. The PS3 is the same way on the gpu side, but the Cell has alot more headroom to grow in things like Ai and realtime physics. But thats it both consoles are using late 2005 early 2006 tech which are really outdated compared to even a low budget gaming pc of today.04dcarraher

Alot of multiplats and and GEOW2 and B&K:N&B.

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#6 Killzowner
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PS3 technology is only a few years old :). how can we know what we have yet to see. only with time will people truly learn how to use it, its still a baby tech. 360 however is what u see what u get. the tech is "easy" to use and has been overloaded, the to answer this, microsoft says it is against their policy to produce best results. what a joke microsoft.
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The 360 was pretty much maxed back in 2007 with what it can do. The PS3 is the same way on the gpu side, but the Cell has alot more headroom to grow in things like Ai and realtime physics. But thats it both consoles are using late 2005 early 2006 tech which are really outdated compared to even a low budget gaming pc of today.04dcarraher

er I think that 360 definetly upped there quality of graphics after 2007, just look at the games released in 2008, you g ot Nuts and Bolts, Viva Pinata Trouble IN Paradise, and Gears 2, all 3 of them excellent games that feature superb graphics, genius AI's wonderfull gameplay that is long and offers great replayability and a lot of ontent

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#8 PAL360
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third option. Both platforms have yet power to show but not that much. I cant believe that soo many ppl still think PS3 have only shown half of its power! :|

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Resistance to Uncharted to MGS4 to KZ2 to Uncharted 2....

With the PS3s best u have seen progress with release after release. So it is assumed that it is still untapped power for the 2.5 year old console.

Now with the 360s best games u have seen..

Kameo to Perfect Dark to Gears 1 to Halo 3 to Fable 2 to Gears 2. With the 360 its best looking game was release in 2006 with minor improvements to the 2008 sequel. So with the 360 it may have already hit its peak. The best looking game upcoming game from previews is Alan Wake but the will look so much better on pc.

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i think there's still a good amount left untouched for the cell. graphically, though, nd and gg nailed it.
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#11 glez13
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third option. Both platforms have yet power to show but not that much. I cant believe that soo many ppl still think PS3 have only shown half of its power! :|

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This. WTF is the option TC?

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Resistance to Uncharted to MGS4 to KZ2 to Uncharted 2....

With the PS3s best u have seen progress with release after release. So it is assumed that it is still untapped power for the 2.5 year old console.

Now with the 360s best games u have seen..

Kameo to Perfect Dark to Gears 1 to Halo 3 to Fable 2 to Gears 2. With the 360 its best looking game was release in 2006 with minor improvements to the 2008 sequel. So with the 360 it may have already hit its peak. The best looking game upcoming game from previews is Alan Wake but the will look so much better on pc.

DBhova23

Alan wake isnt coming to PC last time I checked.

and also as I said, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts says hi... geez why does everybody ignore this game :?

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[QUOTE="DBhova23"]

Resistance to Uncharted to MGS4 to KZ2 to Uncharted 2....

With the PS3s best u have seen progress with release after release. So it is assumed that it is still untapped power for the 2.5 year old console.

Now with the 360s best games u have seen..

Kameo to Perfect Dark to Gears 1 to Halo 3 to Fable 2 to Gears 2. With the 360 its best looking game was release in 2006 with minor improvements to the 2008 sequel. So with the 360 it may have already hit its peak. The best looking game upcoming game from previews is Alan Wake but the will look so much better on pc.

dragonfly110

Alan wake isnt coming to PC last time I checked.

and also as I said, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts says hi... geez why does everybody ignore this game :?

Irregardless I don't think it matters. I'm sorry, but PCs using hardware that just came out this year and cost over $2000 ARE more powerfull than PS3 and Xbox 360. Anyone want to debate this?

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]The 360 was pretty much maxed back in 2007 with what it can do. The PS3 is the same way on the gpu side, but the Cell has alot more headroom to grow in things like Ai and realtime physics. But thats it both consoles are using late 2005 early 2006 tech which are really outdated compared to even a low budget gaming pc of today.dragonfly110

er I think that 360 definetly upped there quality of graphics after 2007, just look at the games released in 2008, you g ot Nuts and Bolts, Viva Pinata Trouble IN Paradise, and Gears 2, all 3 of them excellent games that feature superb graphics, genius AI's wonderfull gameplay that is long and offers great replayability and a lot of ontent

Dont make me laugh, have you even read up on what they had to do on GOW 2 to even being able to show the massive amount of enemies on screen? They cut things out lower, texture resolution on certain surfaces and even making thing 2d off in the distance becuase of memory limits. Heck 360 graphics on Fallout 3 equal to a mix of low and medium settings on Pc version. If you think Console graphics are great then you havent seen Pc graphics in person, high resolution textures, far draw distances, no muddy textures, etc. Gears of War on Pc looked 2-4x sharper and better then on 360, after seeing it on pc I couldnt even look at the 360 version the same because how blurry everything was.
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]The 360 was pretty much maxed back in 2007 with what it can do. The PS3 is the same way on the gpu side, but the Cell has alot more headroom to grow in things like Ai and realtime physics. But thats it both consoles are using late 2005 early 2006 tech which are really outdated compared to even a low budget gaming pc of today.04dcarraher

er I think that 360 definetly upped there quality of graphics after 2007, just look at the games released in 2008, you g ot Nuts and Bolts, Viva Pinata Trouble IN Paradise, and Gears 2, all 3 of them excellent games that feature superb graphics, genius AI's wonderfull gameplay that is long and offers great replayability and a lot of ontent

Dont make me laugh, have you even read up on what they had to do on GOW 2 to even being able to show the massive amount of enemies on screen? They cut things out lower, texture resolution on certain surfaces and even making thing 2d off in the distance becuase of memory limits. Heck 360 graphics on Fallout 3 equal to a mix of low and medium settings on Pc version. If you think Console graphics are great then you havent seen Pc graphics in person, high resolution textures, far draw distances, no muddy textures, etc. Gears of War on Pc looked 2-4x sharper and better then on 360, after seeing it on pc I couldnt even look at the 360 version the same because how blurry everything was.

I wasnt talking about the PC, the thread is about 360 and PS3 having some untapped power, it didnt say a thing about PC, of course PC sports much better graphics then both 360 and PS3, thats obvious.

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No. We will see subtle changes in graphics, but not leaps and bounds anymore.

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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="DBhova23"]

Resistance to Uncharted to MGS4 to KZ2 to Uncharted 2....

With the PS3s best u have seen progress with release after release. So it is assumed that it is still untapped power for the 2.5 year old console.

Now with the 360s best games u have seen..

Kameo to Perfect Dark to Gears 1 to Halo 3 to Fable 2 to Gears 2. With the 360 its best looking game was release in 2006 with minor improvements to the 2008 sequel. So with the 360 it may have already hit its peak. The best looking game upcoming game from previews is Alan Wake but the will look so much better on pc.

trakem

Alan wake isnt coming to PC last time I checked.

and also as I said, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts says hi... geez why does everybody ignore this game :?

Irregardless I don't think it matters. I'm sorry, but PCs using hardware that just came out this year and cost over $2000 ARE more powerfull than PS3 and Xbox 360. Anyone want to debate this?

Heck, I build a $500 Pc that out does both 360 and PS3, Stop with the $1000+ needed Pc's to surpase the consoles. Back in 2006 the consoles were out done on midranged pc's back then. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6154261/p-3.html

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This might be too old of an example but look at what gamecube did with RE4. Those graphics, at the time, matched, or surpasses XBOX and PS2.

Hidden Deep within the 360, PS3, and Wii there is a RE4 waiting.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

er I think that 360 definetly upped there quality of graphics after 2007, just look at the games released in 2008, you g ot Nuts and Bolts, Viva Pinata Trouble IN Paradise, and Gears 2, all 3 of them excellent games that feature superb graphics, genius AI's wonderfull gameplay that is long and offers great replayability and a lot of ontent

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Dont make me laugh, have you even read up on what they had to do on GOW 2 to even being able to show the massive amount of enemies on screen? They cut things out lower, texture resolution on certain surfaces and even making thing 2d off in the distance becuase of memory limits. Heck 360 graphics on Fallout 3 equal to a mix of low and medium settings on Pc version. If you think Console graphics are great then you havent seen Pc graphics in person, high resolution textures, far draw distances, no muddy textures, etc. Gears of War on Pc looked 2-4x sharper and better then on 360, after seeing it on pc I couldnt even look at the 360 version the same because how blurry everything was.

I wasnt talking about the PC, the thread is about 360 and PS3 having some untapped power, it didnt say a thing about PC, of course PC sports much better graphics then both 360 and PS3, thats obvious.

Im just comparing them all, The 360 has no more power it can muster, all they can do change artistic styles and make sacrfices on what they want or favor more. The PS3 graphics are also pretty much done too, but the its cpu has headroom to grow some on cpu intentsive type of effects.

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#20 AmayaPapaya
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I think we will be seeing more from the Wii...It's supposed to be twice as powerful as the X box 1, yet, the X box has games that are on par with even the best looking Wii games. The folk at HVS got the Grinder to have 65 enemys on screen despite the fact it has the best REALISTIC graphics seen on wii...and they know less about the hardware than Nintendo! I believe if Nintendo focuses on graphics, they could show us what the wii can handle!

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#21 DoomZaW
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Crysis wasn't released for the ps3 as it was too demanding... sooo, no untapped power after all

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#22 santoron
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As long as publishers are still focusing development on these 2 consoles, devs will continue to make advancements. Neither console is gonna be "maxxed out", as long as clever programmers keep coming up with clever new ways to program for them.

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#23 WiiMan21
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The Ps3 has a lot of untapped power, the 360 just needs a new game engine (The reach engine), which will make the 360 look really good.