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#1 nhh18
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Prediction thread 0f 09 flops of flops of quality games (these won't be bad games). I think Batman Arkham Asylum is going to be bad though but will sell like 4 million. On a side note here is my list.

Infamous:
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My hype:AAA

Sales: 150k first month, 300k overall in america.

Why: Because it is released in May, and Prototype hits close to it (nearly half the quality) but hyped up more. I believe this game will get murdered sale wise. This game is sucker punch platforming (whicH I will say is the best on ps2) and the game looks mad fun.

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Brutal Legend:

Hype:AA

Sales: Less than 200k.

That is all I could think of. Heavy Rain doesn't look good. Neither does prototype.

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#2 McManus107
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I'm not sure about Heavy Rain getting AAA But I am sure it'll be a sales flop
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#3 15strong
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

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#4 Lethalhazard
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

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I agree. Gamers should care about the game's quality; not the sales. Unless, they're worried about the standing of the specific company. It's also not cool to see a good game get low sales (Valkyria Chronicles).
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#5 2beers_in_hand
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Why is it when ever anyone talks sale they forget to mention the world? Theirs more to this planet then just NA you know that right?

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#6 moose_knuckler
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If your hyping AAA for inFamous, you're just setting yourself up for dissappoint IMO. Doesn't look as fun as Crackdown either, not sure if GS uses that when dealing with scores though.
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#7 nhh18
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If your hyping AAA for inFamous, you're just setting yourself up for dissappoint IMO. Doesn't look as fun as Crackdown either, not sure if GS uses that when dealing with scores though.moose_knuckler
What is with the end all and be all crackdown. This is infamous not crackdown. It is like calling every game should be halo. What is with this? Should all hack n slash games be God of war. Should all platformers be super mario? Crackdown isn't even the same quality as infamous. Crackdown is an A game. It scores a 83 metacritic average. Want to make a ban bet that infammous will score higher than crackdown?

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]If your hyping AAA for inFamous, you're just setting yourself up for dissappoint IMO. Doesn't look as fun as Crackdown either, not sure if GS uses that when dealing with scores though.nhh18

What is with the end all and be all crackdown. This is infamous not crackdown. It is like calling every game should be halo. What is with this? Should all hack n slash games be God of war. Should all platformers be super mario?

I couldn't have put it better myself. People do too much comparing of certain games on this forum "AMAGAD X looks like Y!"
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#9 V_Zarnold_N
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

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wow... seriously? PS3 fanboys do the same thing. wow just wow. seriously? I love it when people just come out of no where with garbage like this. What makes the ps3 so much better?
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#10 TheGreatOutdoor
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Infamous isn't a AAA game in my book. I am guessing a 7.5, maybe a 8.0.

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#11 V_Zarnold_N
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]If your hyping AAA for inFamous, you're just setting yourself up for dissappoint IMO. Doesn't look as fun as Crackdown either, not sure if GS uses that when dealing with scores though.nhh18

What is with the end all and be all crackdown. This is infamous not crackdown. It is like calling every game should be halo. What is with this? Should all hack n slash games be God of war. Should all platformers be super mario? Crackdown isn't even the same quality as infamous. Crackdown is an A game. It scores a 83 metacritic average. Want to make a ban bet that infammous will score higher than crackdown?

No they shouldnt be God of War, they should be DMC or Ninja Gaiden imo. not saying god of war sucks so dont start spewing flames like a damn volcano.
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#12 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

V_Zarnold_N

wow... seriously? PS3 fanboys do the same thing. wow just wow. seriously? I love it when people just come out of no where with garbage like this. What makes the ps3 so much better?

Cows no longer care about sales now that the PS3 is in 3rd place

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#13 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]If your hyping AAA for inFamous, you're just setting yourself up for dissappoint IMO. Doesn't look as fun as Crackdown either, not sure if GS uses that when dealing with scores though.V_Zarnold_N

What is with the end all and be all crackdown. This is infamous not crackdown. It is like calling every game should be halo. What is with this? Should all hack n slash games be God of war. Should all platformers be super mario? Crackdown isn't even the same quality as infamous. Crackdown is an A game. It scores a 83 metacritic average. Want to make a ban bet that infammous will score higher than crackdown?

No they shouldnt be God of War, they should be DMC or Ninja Gaiden imo. not saying god of war sucks so dont start spewing flames like a damn volcano.

Neither are exclusive the reason why I said god of war instead of the other.

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#14 nethernova
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Who cares about sales.

15strong
The developers probably? When they decide to make new games? They don't get paid with happiness and rainbows.
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#15 2beers_in_hand
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Infamous isn't a AAA game in my book. I am guessing a 7.5, maybe a 8.0.

TheGreatOutdoor

nah it will get either an 8.0 or 8.5 guaranteed.

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]If your hyping AAA for inFamous, you're just setting yourself up for dissappoint IMO. Doesn't look as fun as Crackdown either, not sure if GS uses that when dealing with scores though.nhh18

What is with the end all and be all crackdown. This is infamous not crackdown. It is like calling every game should be halo. What is with this? Should all hack n slash games be God of war. Should all platformers be super mario? Crackdown isn't even the same quality as infamous. Crackdown is an A game. It scores a 83 metacritic average. Want to make a ban bet that infammous will score higher than crackdown?

I think you forgot to take your Riddelin dude, I was only making a comparison in what seems to be the fun factor of both Crackdown and inFamous. Never did I say it wouldn't score higher than Crackdown or mention is was "the end all be all" for it's category of sandbox games.
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#17 Ambli
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Wasn't it Ps3 fanboys saying Halo 3s attachment rate is bad, when it beats out all Ps3 games in attachment rate?

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#18 NightmareCV
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i dont see inFamous selling bad at all. i dont think it will sell 1 million anytime before christmas but i believe the sucker punch has a real winner on their hands. one of the editors at IGN wen as far as to stake his reputation on the fact that inFamous would be a great game after playing it himself.
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#19 Rick_Henderson
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I could definitely see Brutal Legend flopping sales wise, but I have a feeling that Jack Black is going to really be pushing the game. I hope it does really well, Tim Schafer deserves it and its going to be my personal GOTY.

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#20 II_Seraphim_II
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

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While I agree with you, this thread is about sales :P Anyways, I think Infamous wont sell too hot. People will all go for the what seems to be the more shallow but flashier gameplay of Prototype. Heavy Rain is a mystery one. Im sure it will have bad sales, but on its score, anything can happen. This game can seriously go anywhere from 7.0 to 9.0. There are just too many unknowns and this seems like they type of innovative game that is either love or hate.
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Not everything needs to come down to score.Take GTA4 for example.It scored a perfect 10 on gamespot but alot of people thought it was the worst gta game because it was too story driven unlike the other GTAs.Infamous might score better than crackdown but that dosent change the fact that alot of people(me included) loved crackdown.
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I can't wait for Brutal Legend.

That is all for this post.

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#23 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

Infamous isn't a AAA game in my book. I am guessing a 7.5, maybe a 8.0.

2beers_in_hand

nah it will get either an 8.0 or 8.5 guaranteed.

Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. :roll:

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Prediction thread 0f 09 flops of flops of quality games (these won't be bad games). I think Batman Arkham Asylum is going to be bad though but will sell like 4 million. On a side note here is my list.

Infamous:
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My hype:AAA

Sales: 150k first month, 300k overall in america.

Why: Because it is released in May, and Prototype hits close to it (nearly half the quality) but hyped up more. I believe this game will get murdered sale wise. This game is sucker punch platforming (whicH I will say is the best on ps2) and the game looks mad fun.

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Brutal Legend:

Hype:AA

Sales: Less than 200k.

That is all I could think of. Heavy Rain doesn't look good. Neither does prototype.

nhh18

I Agree on inFamous you're right........ive already pre-ordered inFamous and im sure it will get a decent/good score by critics, but its releasing too close to prototype, a game that gets more hype and is generaly glorified, i mean for christ sakes if you go on deviant art and type in "Alex Mercer" you'll see loads of Fan art of him, where as with typing "Cole McGrath" nothing really shows up, and that small fact that prototype got comic book treatement, helps, and being multiplat helps too, PS3 owners will most likely buy both, i know i am, i was thinking about just renting inFamous and buying prototype but i went on ahead and bought it

Suckerpunch knows [Prototype] is a serious threat, why do you think they jumped up from June to may ?, they want it to release before [Prototype] i dont think thats gonna help much though, Prototype just has the nact for making people wet their pants when they see the gameplay

infact im willing to bet, that even if both of the games were PS3 exclusives, [Prototype] would still sell more lol, i think inFamous would have dominated, had it been released 2007 a time where the release of Prototype was far off.

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#25 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

Infamous isn't a AAA game in my book. I am guessing a 7.5, maybe a 8.0.

nah it will get either an 8.0 or 8.5 guaranteed.

Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. :roll:

You can just tell that it's an AA title.
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#26 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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inFamous sadly.
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#27 -RocBoys9489-
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IDK but the biggest games of this year are: God of War 3 Forza 3 Halo: ODST Dead Rising 2 Lost Planet 2 GT5 (If released) FFXIII (if released) There you have it! The best and best-selling games of 09!
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#28 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

Lethalhazard

I agree. Gamers should care about the game's quality; not the sales. Unless, they're worried about the standing of the specific company. It's also not cool to see a good game get low sales (Valkyria Chronicles).

Short sighted view man, bad sales even for an excellent game will result in NO further developments in most cases. THATS VERY BAD especially when regurgitated rubbish is constantly released.

Demons Souls is another one not even released over here and i DAMN IT can full on not afford to import thats how damn poor iam at the moment.

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#29 imapieceofwood
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how much sales define the game as a flop? under 1 million? 2 million? Also do you mean in a certain region or worldwide sales?

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#30 gago-gago
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I hope games with great scores get great sales because I would rather have a great new franchise than just a great new game that didn't sell well.

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#31 krp008
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

15strong

Ahhh. LBP not selling? Killzone 2 not selling? ahhhh poor PS3...

Sales do matter when it comes to developers wanting to put the money into developing a game for that console.

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#32 Nike_Air
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Infamous doesn't look like a AAA game. More like A-AA. I don't think it will sell well at all because of all of the superhero/licensed games coming out around that time. Brutal Legendwill probablybe AA at least and do very well sales wise with EA's marketing.

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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="V_Zarnold_N"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

wow... seriously? PS3 fanboys do the same thing. wow just wow. seriously? I love it when people just come out of no where with garbage like this. What makes the ps3 so much better?

Cows no longer care about sales now that the PS3 is in 3rd place

thatt right there is my point , lets not forget the numerous gaming developers bankrupt by them , , -free radical who are they you ask- ever play timesplitters second sight? also pd and goldeneye were developed by that team ,, but while they were at rare and silicon knights ever play starwars on gc n64 thats who it was made by
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[QUOTE="V_Zarnold_N"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

LosDaddie

wow... seriously? PS3 fanboys do the same thing. wow just wow. seriously? I love it when people just come out of no where with garbage like this. What makes the ps3 so much better?

Cows no longer care about sales now that the PS3 is in 3rd place

lemmings no long care about exclusives because its not 2007

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#35 Archaic8
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Heavy Rain. Could potentially be my game of this generation if it lives up to its promises but you know its going to flop at retail.

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#36 GrilledCharlie
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Not everything needs to come down to score.Take GTA4 for example.It scored a perfect 10 on gamespot but alot of people thought it was the worst gta game because it was too story driven unlike the other GTAs.Infamous might score better than crackdown but that dosent change the fact that alot of people(me included) loved crackdown.InfiniteRespawn
Yeah, people hated GTA4 so much that it is the best-selling PS3 game to date.

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#37 Mooby0308
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I loved GTA4 it is one of my top games of this gen.... Since this gen is all about online multiplayer I don't think it will sell as well as it should. I have a feeling Brutal Legend will flop (sales wise) but I bet it will get good reviews personally I will rent it.
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#38 NYrockinlegend
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Ah, the fanboy wars. Nothing new, just constant fanboy blathering. Sales this, higher scores that, "everything should be crackdown", "Halo is king", "best game ever" BS. When will you fanboys ever learn? Back on topic, Infamous may only sell 300K in the first month. It's not an established franchise, so it won't make LBP or R2 numbers. A AAA game right now that may be setting itself up for disappointment is Uncharted 2. I just wanna see how the SP will turn out. Another one may be GoW3 or GT5. After the long wait, people are gonna expect so much more. Eh, the crazy hype. Those who overhype things are MUCH more difficult to impress.
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#39 jsmoke03
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infamous is not AAA....double A at best....

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#40 HistoricalSD
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most likely correct, sir..
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

15strong
So all those japanese sales threads, threads boasting of KZ2 pre sales, etc, those were all made by the 360 fanboys were they?
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#42 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

wow... seriously? PS3 fanboys do the same thing. wow just wow. seriously? I love it when people just come out of no where with garbage like this. What makes the ps3 so much better?V_Zarnold_N

Cows no longer care about sales now that the PS3 is in 3rd place

lemmings no long care about exclusives because its not 2007

Ummm....k, no offense but a sad example of a comeback or switching of sides (can't think of the word).
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#43 Archaic8
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[QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Cows no longer care about sales now that the PS3 is in 3rd place

moose_knuckler

lemmings no long care about exclusives because its not 2007

Ummm....k, no offense but a sad example of a comeback or switching of sides (can't think of the word).

Hes right though. Back in 2007 exclusives were apparantly the most important thing in gaming according to 360 fans yet now they act as though they don't matter. Hypocrites.

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[QUOTE="Archaic8"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

lemmings no long care about exclusives because its not 2007

Ummm....k, no offense but a sad example of a comeback or switching of sides (can't think of the word).

Hes right though. Back in 2007 exclusives were apparantly the most important thing in gaming according to 360 fans yet now they act as though they don't matter. Hypocrites.

Its SW!!!!
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#45 Archaic8
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[QUOTE="Archaic8"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Ummm....k, no offense but a sad example of a comeback or switching of sides (can't think of the word).blue_hazy_basic

Hes right though. Back in 2007 exclusives were apparantly the most important thing in gaming according to 360 fans yet now they act as though they don't matter. Hypocrites.

Its SW!!!!

Its Sad.

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#46 W1NGMAN-
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If those games turn out to be AAA titles who cares how much they sell? I'm not associated with any of those businesses so yea I'll continue to just worry about the quality of the games.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Archaic8"]

Hes right though. Back in 2007 exclusives were apparantly the most important thing in gaming according to 360 fans yet now they act as though they don't matter. Hypocrites.

Archaic8

Its SW!!!!

Its Sad.

Yep back then I use to have a list of games in my Sig and since most were multiplat I would get ragged on all the time but NOW those same people are mainly just hyping multi's....sad in deed.

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#48 W1NGMAN-
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IDK but the biggest games of this year are: God of War 3 Forza 3 Halo: ODST Dead Rising 2 Lost Planet 2 GT5 (If released) FFXIII (if released) There you have it! The best and best-selling games of 09!-RocBoys9489-

Compared to the rest of that list Lost Planet and Dead Rising have no right to be there...most people would be happy just to see those games at least get AA status.

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#49 W1NGMAN-
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Who cares about sales. Sales are just an excuse for fanboys when they don't have anything to brag about. (360 fanboys)

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wow... seriously? PS3 fanboys do the same thing. wow just wow. seriously? I love it when people just come out of no where with garbage like this. What makes the ps3 so much better?

Cows no longer care about sales now that the PS3 is in 3rd place

Well when they've had the most AAA and AA titles released in the past 6 months why would they?

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#50 sixringz1
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i'm sort of the opposite on Infamous. I think the game will sell better than it scores. I predict a low AA score but wouldn't be shocked if it sold 1 mill copies