According to my sources at ResetEra, there is no evidence that matue games sell on the Switch - Reset Admin ZHugeEX

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#1  Edited By ZhugeEX
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I have access to worldwide sales data ranging from NPD and the PAL Charts.

Aside from Skyrim, retail games with mature graphics do not sell on the Switch. Read more here if you want further insight into my findings

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pal-charts-week-26-2018.52854/page-3#post-9945115

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RIP Mature AAA 3rd party on switch? Sad Wolf 2 bombed, bethesda been highly supportive of switch.

They really need to release games at the same time as other consoles instead of releasing late ports where the game is no longer in garnering hype.

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#3 ZhugeEX
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Nintendo fans like games with childish graphics. They won't buy realistic games.

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#4  Edited By superbuuman
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Did Doom on Switch sold well?

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#5 ZhugeEX
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It sold okayish. Certainly not enough to excite third parties.

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#6 FireEmblem_Man
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Okay, who let this ResetEra reject in here?

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#7  Edited By ZhugeEX
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@sakaixx said:

RIP Mature AAA 3rd party on switch? Sad Wolf 2 bombed, bethesda been highly supportive of switch.

They really need to release games at the same time as other consoles instead of releasing late ports where the game is no longer in garnering hype.

You would be shocked at how many annoying Nintendo fanboys are running around resetera portbegging for games that they are never going to play. Makes my life very difficult.

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#8 FireEmblem_Man
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@zhugeex said:
@sakaixx said:

RIP Mature AAA 3rd party on switch? Sad Wolf 2 bombed, bethesda been highly supportive of switch.

They really need to release games at the same time as other consoles instead of releasing late ports where the game is no longer in garnering hype.

You would be shocked at how many annoying Nintendo fanboys are running around resetera portbegging for games that they are never going to play. Makes my life very difficult.

So, why are you here?

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#9 ZhugeEX
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@zhugeex said:
@sakaixx said:

RIP Mature AAA 3rd party on switch? Sad Wolf 2 bombed, bethesda been highly supportive of switch.

They really need to release games at the same time as other consoles instead of releasing late ports where the game is no longer in garnering hype.

You would be shocked at how many annoying Nintendo fanboys are running around resetera portbegging for games that they are never going to play. Makes my life very difficult.

So, why are you here?

Gaming is my passion and I like to express my views on a multitude of forums -- even though I technically work for ResetEra, I am certainly not exclusive to the forum.

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#10  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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@zhugeex said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@zhugeex said:
@sakaixx said:

RIP Mature AAA 3rd party on switch? Sad Wolf 2 bombed, bethesda been highly supportive of switch.

They really need to release games at the same time as other consoles instead of releasing late ports where the game is no longer in garnering hype.

You would be shocked at how many annoying Nintendo fanboys are running around resetera portbegging for games that they are never going to play. Makes my life very difficult.

So, why are you here?

Gaming is my passion and I like to express my views on a multitude of forums -- even though I technically work for ResetEra, I am certainly not exclusive to the forum.

Okay, just to give you a heads up, there's no such thing as a Safe Space here, and not many of us is too fond of ERA and it's reputations. But I'll welcome you anyways.

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#11  Edited By Gatygun
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It doesn't help that all those ports are mostly late, expensive and by far the most inferior version out there.

It's hard to pick it up for the switch. even the new wolfenstein 2 i think it is game is a complete and utter garbage version of it.

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#12  Edited By ZhugeEX
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@zhugeex said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@zhugeex said:

You would be shocked at how many annoying Nintendo fanboys are running around resetera portbegging for games that they are never going to play. Makes my life very difficult.

So, why are you here?

Gaming is my passion and I like to express my views on a multitude of forums -- even though I technically work for ResetEra, I am certainly not exclusive to the forum.

Okay, just to give you a heads up, there's no such thing as a Safe Space, and not many of us is too fond of ERA and it's reputations. But I'll welcome you anyways.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm sure overtime I'll find my groove posting here. I'm not here to represent Era, so to speak, but I have no problem with people knowing that that that's where I came from.

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#13 FireEmblem_Man
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@zhugeex said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@zhugeex said:

Gaming is my passion and I like to express my views on a multitude of forums -- even though I technically work for ResetEra, I am certainly not exclusive to the forum.

Okay, just to give you a heads up, there's no such thing as a Safe Space, and not many of us is too fond of ERA and it's reputations. But I'll welcome you anyways.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm sure overtime I'll find my groove posting here. I'm not here to represent Era, so to speak, but I have no problem with people knowing that that that's where I came from.

Good to know :)

Now as your topic at hand. Not sure to say why M rated game aren't selling on the switch. Majority of M-Rated titles for the Switch are year plus old ports. Having to double dip for the same game for a high price is a problem.

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#14  Edited By Sgt_Crow
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What are “matue games” and where can I find them?

Yeah I can’t take anyone seriously who labels anything colourful as “childish graphics”.

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#15 freedomfreak
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what is this now

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@FireEmblem_Man said:

Okay, who let this ResetEra reject in here?

...aren't you a ResetEra reject?

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#17 nintendoboy16
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@Sgt_Crow said:

What are “matue games” and where can I find them?

Yeah I can’t take anyone seriously who labels anything colourful as “childish graphics”.

Yep! Because Borderlands, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Simpsons: Hit and Run, Starcraft and Dragon Ball FighterZ are SO for kids. /sarcasm

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Well at least some effort was put into this scheme

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#19  Edited By KungfuKitten
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Well, here we go.

@zhugeex I suppose you wouldn't have a problem with that. I guess we'll talk about it at some point.

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#20 Jag85
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Assuming you're the real ZhugeEx, welcome to SW. I've seen you around before on NeoGAF, ResetEra, and Twitter, and often found your posts to be quite insightful.

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#21 locopatho
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It's always been this way. Even Nintendo's own "mature" series like Metroid never sell well.

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#22 npiet1
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Theres only 3 games that I want for the switch which is why i haven't bought one, the rest are multiplats which ive already got

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#23 KBFloYd
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@locopatho said:

It's always been this way. Even Nintendo's own "mature" series like Metroid never sell well.

true, mario outsells zelda everytime also.

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#24  Edited By KBFloYd
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anyway,

wolfenstein was a bomb everywhere no? it came out and no one gave a shit. the new order did much better.

i'm playing it on switch and its basically a movie game. the kind we give sony shit for.

like a call of duty campaign almost.

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#25 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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Given that Fortnite is such a success I’d say that ‘childish cartoon graphics’ are pretty popular regardless of the platform.

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#26  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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Yeah, and to be honest it doesn't help that while Panic Button did a great job on the DOOM and Wolfenstein 2 ports, they're still late to the party and the weakest versions of the games...

Marry that with very little original, mature themed games releasing on the Switch and it makes sense that they're not among the higher performing games.

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#27 stuff238
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LOL at Nintendo fanboys begging for ports and then not buying them when they come.

This is why 3rd parties hate you guys.

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#28  Edited By deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Nintendo fans been in denial for a long time, we already knew they like kiddie games.

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Not surprised at all. Most Nintendo fans are manchildren that worship Nintendo or the few unlucky kids that have parents who won't let them play M rated games.

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#30  Edited By KungfuKitten
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So this has always been a thing with Nintendo consoles, at least since the Gamecube. Where people who don't own a Nintendo platform are constantly telling us that Nintendo needs multiplats because otherwise their platforms have droughts and they're not part of the competition. And then Nintendo platform owners say they can already play those multiplat games on another platform so what's the point.

With the Switch there is a bit of a point. The portability. The ability to play games in bed. And I think that's why indie titles are doing so well on the Switch. But I do agree with other Nintendo platform holders that there is not that much of a reason to buy a multiplat game on the Switch vs the PC for instance. So if Gears 5 comes to the Switch and all the anti-Nintendo people are so excited for the Switch owners... I don't know that Switch owners would be all that excited for it. Even if it were date-to-date and not 2 years after the release on the PC. Because in the case of Doom, everybody who really wanted to play Doom probably already played Doom before it came to Switch.

Add to that the rarity of happy games and I do feel like people want to keep their Switch as their happy relaxing gaming platform that is always there for them when they have to wait somewhere for a long time or when they feel stressed out. Of course there's no way to know the actual motivations here it's all guesswork.

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#31  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@zhugeex said:

I have access to worldwide sales data ranging from NPD and the PAL Charts.

Aside from Skyrim, retail games with mature graphics do not sell on the Switch. Read more here if you want further insight into my findings

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pal-charts-week-26-2018.52854/page-3#post-9945115

@zhugeex said:

Nintendo fans like games with childish graphics. They won't buy realistic games.

Lol, why are any of you thinking this is anything other than a troll account?

BTW creating an impersonation account is bad enough, but you know this is SW, not Fanboy Wars "Zhuge"

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#32 locopatho
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@KungfuKitten said:

And then Nintendo platform owners say they can already play those multiplat games on another platform so what's the point.

Stop pretending every Nintendo system comes with a free gaming PC strapped to it.

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#33 GarGx1
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@locopatho said:
@KungfuKitten said:

And then Nintendo platform owners say they can already play those multiplat games on another platform so what's the point.

Stop pretending every Nintendo system comes with a free gaming PC strapped to it.

I thought all consoles came with a free high end gaming PC, going by the number of console gamers who say they can just play "X" game on their gaming rig.

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Uh, don't you work for Niko Partners? You should have more data than what comes from Era. I don't know if you're the real deal.

Fishy.

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#35 locopatho
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@GarGx1 said:
@locopatho said:
@KungfuKitten said:

And then Nintendo platform owners say they can already play those multiplat games on another platform so what's the point.

Stop pretending every Nintendo system comes with a free gaming PC strapped to it.

I thought all consoles came with a free high end gaming PC, going by the number of console gamers who say they can just play "X" game on their gaming rig.

That's the impression System Wars would give.

Kudos to the fanboys who just saying everything on a console is shit instead ;)

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#36 Pedro
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Not like "mature" games are really that mature. Most of it is juvenile in content and story dressed up in violence and gore for a mature rating.

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#37 sakaiXx
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3rd party game AAA is pretty dead on switch for me. Got abundance of japanese shovelware and ports but the amount of good AAA releases had been low. The charts reflect this too.

Outside of Mario rabbits, skyrim, FIFA and bomberman, I dont think there is any other big 3rd party publisher games surpasses 1 million unit on switch. I may be wrong but damn that is such a low number. Also only skyrim representing the mature tag.

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#38 Solaryellow
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Wolfenstein 2 has been out for a week on Switch and a number of reviews say it is a solid port worth playing.

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#39  Edited By Ant_17
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What else is new. Maybe they should make a BJ Amiibo to boost the sales.

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Uh, don't you work for Niko Partners? You should have more data than what comes from Era. I don't know if you're the real deal.

Fishy.

It's a gimmick profile. It's not really him.

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#40 Solaryellow
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Decapitated B.J. would be a winner.

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#41 Shewgenja
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I think the biggest reason for this is that their current content is old ports. Traditional third party publishers are approaching the Switch with trepidation.

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#42 drummerdave9099
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What M rated games are on the platform besides Skyrim, Doom, and Wolfenstein?

Dark Souls is gonna sell really well, calling it now

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#43 drummerdave9099
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@Shewgenja said:

I think the biggest reason for this is that their current content is old ports. Traditional third party publishers are approaching the Switch with trepidation.

Plus they are asking $60 for these old ports. Dark Souls is only $40- a much sweeter price point. If that sells well it should be an indicator to other publishers not to charge that much for old games.

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#44  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@drummerdave9099 said:

What M rated games are on the platform besides Skyrim, Doom, and Wolfenstein?

Dark Souls is gonna sell really well, calling it now

Bayonetta? Nintendo even confirmed Bayonetta 2 sold MUCH better on Switch than on Wii U (but I know of TWO Bayo fanboys on here that will see that as a bad thing).

Resident Evil Revelations is on there as well.

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@locopatho said:
@KungfuKitten said:

And then Nintendo platform owners say they can already play those multiplat games on another platform so what's the point.

Stop pretending every Nintendo system comes with a free gaming PC strapped to it.

Or a console. I honestly don't think that many gamers who care about multiplats own only a Switch, but apparently you do?

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#46 gameofthering
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Why pay more for less is my reason for avoiding most multi-plats on Switch.

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#47  Edited By ZhugeEX
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Uh, don't you work for Niko Partners? You should have more data than what comes from Era. I don't know if you're the real deal.

Fishy.

The data I receive at my job only covers digital games in China and Southeast Asia and is not overly relevant to the console market, so to speak. It's also data I'm not willing or able to discuss here. however.

Truthfully, I can't even go into detail from sources on RE, unless given the okay in advance, but I can help give a clearer picture of the industry.

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#48 ReCloud
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Who buys Nintendo for "mature" games?

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#49 KBFloYd
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@xantufrog said:
@zhugeex said:

Nintendo fans like games with childish graphics. They won't buy realistic games.

Lol, why are any of you thinking this is anything other than a troll account?

BTW creating an impersonation account is bad enough, but you know this is SW, not Fanboy Wars "Zhuge"

exactly

no way this guy is an insider. he is a dumbass. this guy is a troll account.

and if he is an insider take any numbers with a grain of salt. nobody this dumb can be completely trusted.

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#50 ZhugeEX
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@recloud said:

Who buys Nintendo for "mature" games?

Nobody apparently.

I don't want to give the impression I'm a Nintendo hater, or out to get Nintendo either. It's part of my job description at RE and elsewhere to remain impartial. I can't say I'm very fond of the platform, the company or their games however.