actually... nintendo is quite clever

read a few topics about nintendo... i actually think they are quite clever trying to attract non-gamers, (we just did a mini case study actually in economics about nintendo wii), and here is the reason why.

gamers tend to be loyal, if they have a ps2, they will stick to it, and buy the ps3, if they have an xbox, they will buy a xbox360, and if they have a gamecube, they will buy a wii. this is the primary way that they are gonna get customers.

however, the gamecube was not successful, so they know they are not gonna get a lot of primary customers, therefore, they need another resource.

they made their games motion interactive, i.e. wii sports, wii play, wario... these games managed to attract a lot of customers who don't normally play, because it is a different style to sitting there pressing buttons, lots of girls are starting to buy nintendo wii, and that is how they are currently the best selling console.

this is also what they have done with the DS.

but there is one thing that makes them stupid, its the relase date of their games!!!!!!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

If somone has an issue with the nongamer/casualattraction to the Wii, they need only look to the DS. It attracted droves of nongamer/casuals yet still has an amazing library for the 'core' gamers. Nintendo has the right idea..its up to the devs to get us the games.

Loyalty doesn't really go that far. Look at N64 and the PS3.Smoke_ManMuscle

yeah your whole loyalty theory is retarded. i had a n64, bought a ps2, then a xbox, then a ds, and now im thinking of buying a psp. people just buy systems if they like the games. nintendo just changed things around to get more girls and old people to play the wii while the guys get 360s and the rich get the ps3.Jedi_of_Hyrule

but it's working right? nintendo is the one swimming in profit. and hardcore gamers still follow them, though the true amount is not really known

[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]Loyalty doesn't really go that far. Look at N64 and the PS3.mexicangordo

W00t, I'm gettin' groupies.

And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).SpruceCaboose

Well, Nintendo always makes a profit on their hardware, and they make a ton of money from their first party titles.

And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).SpruceCaboose

And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"] [QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).SpruceCaboose

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

gamers tend to be loyal, if they have a ps2, they will stick to it, and buy the ps3, if they have an xbox, they will buy a xbox360, and if they have a gamecube, they will buy a wii. this is the primary way that they are gonna get customers.

however, the gamecube was not successful, so they know they are not gonna get a lot of primary customers, therefore, they need another resource.

aykevin

Here comes the windup and.... YES! HE NAILED IT! THE QUINTUPLE POST!!! Lets go to the judges, Canada- 10, Britain- 10, US- 10, China- 10, Russia- 6.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And they failed to realize that the majority of gaming profits are made through software, and hardcore gamers spend far more money on games and accessories than casual gamers do, and they adopt new fads and genres quicker as well (See Xbox Live).PBSnipes

True, but the average gamer buys many games a year, over the course of the systems life. What happens, theoretically, if the casual base of the Wii tires of the Wii (which is possible given that casual gamers tend to roll with newer "fads" for lack of a better word) and moves on to some new computer game or something? Its plausible, and if that happens, Nintendo will be struggling to appeal again to the hardcore gamers.

The PS2 had a good balance of appealing to casual players, while at the same time having a large enough game library to support the hardcore gamers. If the Wii does not fatten its game library up quite soon, Nintendo could have an issue in the next year or so where they run into another Gamecube situation, with the software sales becoming lackluster.

I am not saying it will or won't happen, just that it could, and Nintendo needs to keep hardcore gamers interested in case casual gamers tire of the Wii.

Here comes the windup and.... YES! HE NAILED IT! THE QUINTUPLE POST!!! Lets go to the judges, Canada- 10, Britain- 10, US- 10, China- 10, Russia- 6.

PBSnipes

Sorry, for some reason the tab in Firefox keeps refreshing and everytime it does it reposts. I will close the tab, and I apologize again!

I always wondered if Spruce was just an A.I. Now I'm sure. I see a SEGMENTATION FAULT--CORE DUMP in his immediate future.WeeWeeJumbo

read a few topics about nintendo... i actually think they are quite clever trying to attract non-gamers, (we just did a mini case study actually in economics about nintendo wii), and here is the reason why.

gamers tend to be loyal, if they have a ps2, they will stick to it, and buy the ps3, if they have an xbox, they will buy a xbox360, and if they have a gamecube, they will buy a wii. this is the primary way that they are gonna get customers.

however, the gamecube was not successful, so they know they are not gonna get a lot of primary customers, therefore, they need another resource.

they made their games motion interactive, i.e. wii sports, wii play, wario... these games managed to attract a lot of customers who don't normally play, because it is a different style to sitting there pressing buttons, lots of girls are starting to buy nintendo wii, and that is how they are currently the best selling console.

this is also what they have done with the DS.

but there is one thing that makes them stupid, its the relase date of their games!!!!!!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

aykevin

there is no evidence that all that non-gamers are buying wiis.they could be the same people that used to buy

nintendo products. there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's just that things you are talking about

is what nintendo is trying to push forward, but we don't really know who is buying wiis.

I am sorry! I was wondering why it kept popping up with this message about POSDATA...now I know...SpruceCaboose

Now that it has been called into question, Spruce--if that's even your real name--can you demonstrate your consciousness?

I thought not.

And PBSnipes, what did I ever do to the Russian judge? 6?!!?! Come on...bullstuff. I smell bribes.SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]
I am sorry! I was wondering why it kept popping up with this message about POSDATA...now I know...WeeWeeJumbo

Now that it has been called into question, Spruce--if that's even your real name--can you demonstrate your consciousness?

I thought not.

I think, therefore I am...I think... *^*%*^^)**@$^*^#(&*^&^%(&Y$

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And PBSnipes, what did I ever do to the Russian judge? 6?!!?! Come on...bullstuff. I smell bribes.PBSnipes

When I read that "score" post, I laughed so hard I couldn't breathe. Funniest thing I have read on this forum, ever.