Adrenaline Vs. Abortion

Since gaming began, franchises have come and gone. some keep coming strong, some vanish into obscurity, and some dwindle in quality while the games keep coming. it is the last 2 categories i will deal with.

as we all know, the banjo series is being revived by Rare on the 360. this was a franchise that i had always assumed was doomed to obscurity but this holiday season it seems like it is getting a shot of adrenaline.

the same goes for sonic. since the 16 bit era, sonic games have plummetted in quality. however, the recently revealed sonic unleashed looks to take the series back to the 2(.5)D roots and give it another shot of adrenaline.

while 2 great franchises are being revived, there are many others that bring out new games every year or so that simply stink and should never have been made. (looking at you COD3, THPS, MoH, NFS) these games need a quick and simple gaming abortion.

so, in an effort to promote unbiased debate, i wage the question:

What old/dwindling frachise is in need of a shot of adrenaline to get back on track?

What current franchise is in need of an abortion to remove its trash from our systems every year?

Madden.

That series is the abomination of the gaming world.

I answer myself that:

Jet Set Radio, Jet Force Gemini, X-Com, and Megaman need adrenaline

MoH, THPS, and tom clancy games need to be aborted

Since gaming began, franchises have come and gone. some keep coming strong, some vanish into obscurity, and some dwindle in quality while the games keep coming. it is the last 2 categories i will deal with.

as we all know, the banjo series is being revived by Rare on the 360. this was a franchise that i had always assumed was doomed to obscurity but this holiday season it seems like it is getting a shot of adrenaline.

the same goes for sonic. since the 16 bit era, sonic games have plummetted in quality. however, the recently revealed sonic unleashed looks to take the series back to the 2(.5)D roots and give it another shot of adrenaline.

while 2 great franchises are being revived, there are many others that bring out new games every year or so that simply stink and should never have been made. (looking at you COD3, THPS, MoH, NFS) these games need a quick and simple gaming abortion.

so, in an effort to promote unbiased debate, i wage the question:

What old/dwindling frachise is in need of a shot of adrenaline to get back on track?

What current franchise is in need of an abortion to remove its trash from our systems every year?

Awinagainov

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

I wish the Mortal Kombat series would die gracefully.

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

Since gaming began...i wage the question:

What old/dwindling frachise is in need of a shot of adrenaline to get back on track?

What current franchise is in need of an abortion to remove its trash from our systems every year?

thepwninator

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

I answer myself that:

Jet Set Radio, Jet Force Gemini, X-Com, and Megaman need adrenaline

MoH, THPS, and tom clancy games need to be aborted

Awinagainov

Yes jet set radio need TO COME BACK!!!

Add donkey kong, threads of fate.

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

thepwninator

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

thepwninator

Even though I don't care for milking of the FF IP. I don't agree at all that they've failed to make good/great entries on the same tier quality wise with what Bioware offers. And SE has experimented in different types of gameplay/development within just FF, it's something the IP is quite good at actually.

1) its not a dwindling franchise really, but i think zelda needs to go back in the mixer and get a bit of a rejig. what ninty did with WW and TP was basically perfect OOT. theres not really that much they can do with it. and the whole do a few dungeons, get master sword, do a few more dungeons and kill the final boss patters is getting a bit old now (bioware better watch for this too...both KOTOR and ME follow a very similar pattern). its a credit to ninty that they have managed to keep the dungeons interesting within the limits of the game design but the franchise needs to go back to the drawing board now for a bit of overhauling. a RE4 type overhauling. they could squeez a few more games out of the existing design but thats just going to lead to a dead end after a few games.

2) well i wouldnt say completly remove them...but the EA sports games should be reduced to only being released every 2 years and every installment should be trying something new and interesting with the sport. a game with an updated roster and a slight tweak doesent really cut it.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

Tiefster

I just said that because more people here seem to be familiar with Baldur's Gate than with Tales of Symphonia ;)

Series that needs a shot in the arm...Silent hill. For me the games have been getting worse with each sequel, and the fact Silent Hill 5 has been out sourced to some American Dev makes me believe it's going to suck hard. Such a shame that a once amazing series, SH1and SH2 were great great horror games, seems to have no love anymore from konami or survival horror fans.

Series that needs to die...Halo, yes I mean HALO. Game has played it safer and safer with each sequel to the point where you don't even feel like you're playing a new game when you pick up the latest Halo game, it's so familiar it's become BORING. Master Chief has become the most dull character in gaming, and Bungie still don't know how to create good looking enemies or NEXT GEN VISUALS. Halo 3 may have sold through the roof but there are so many better FPS games out there that deserve more praise than this has been franchise. Let it die already, how many more times must we fight the same enemies, and listen to MC deliver yet another boring one liner.

Series went from exciting first entry, to just plain dull.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

Since gaming began...i wage the question:

What old/dwindling frachise is in need of a shot of adrenaline to get back on track?

What current franchise is in need of an abortion to remove its trash from our systems every year?

Awinagainov

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

but to be honest, each final fantasy tends to have a different story and a fair number of different stuffs :|

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

Since gaming began...i wage the question:

What old/dwindling frachise is in need of a shot of adrenaline to get back on track?

What current franchise is in need of an abortion to remove its trash from our systems every year?

thrones

Question one: Deus Ex. If the third is as good as the first, it will be God to me.

Question two: I know I will get killed for this, but I'm going to have to say Final Fantasy. There hasn't been a game in the same league as games by developers like Bioware in almost a decade, and they have constantly declined since then. I believe that Square-Enix needs to take chances with more new IPs so they can experiment in other styles of both RPG gameplay and artistry.

but to be honest, each final fantasy tends to have a different story and a fair number of different stuffs :|

But the atmosphere, the feel, has remained largely the same. They need to change that, IMO, and I believe the only way they can really do that is to move on to new IPs, leaving FF in the dust.

I think Mario Party needs to get better. You CAN'T say you didn't love at least one of the first 3 Mario Parties! THAT'S party gaming right there. But lately it's like "same old, same old...". It needs to go back to its roots and revive.

In terms of series that need to die... Tony Hawk's Pro Skater...

1. The Elder Scrolls

While Oblivion took leaps in playability it took equal leaps back in RPG elements and fundamental designs (like the piss poor choice to dynamically level everything). I fear the 5th will travel this same road. So a shot of adrenaline and a slap in the face is what I would like for this franchise to get it on the right track.

2. Mario Party

Poor showing Nintendo. Rehash after rehash. I mean why not just take of the stupid iteration count (ie 1, 2, 3 etc) and take a note from EA's book and just start adding a damn year. Mario Party 2009 and so on.

But the atmosphere, the feel, has remained largely the same. They need to change that, IMO, and I believe the only way they can really do that is to move on to new IPs, leaving FF in the dust.

thepwninator

Not really. Each atmosphere if I was to base it on the environments is different since each takes place on completely different worlds with different characters.

1. Ogre Battle needs to be revived. Not the TBS style of Knights of Lodis, but the RTS stlye of Person of Lordly Caliber and March of the Black Queen.

2. Mario Party needs to be killed off or completly rehauled where it isn't left up to chance so much.