After Reading this YOU will buy an X360 and then NG2 and Shout:-I AM SAMURAI !!

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#1 kirk4ever
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british newspaper have said that the violence in ninja gaiden 2 is like manhunt and the BBFC have yet to rate..alot are saying it will get high age rating..

BUT Tomonobu Itagaki stood up and said these words..just read damn,,,:

"Violence is not about cutting an enemy into pieces or seeing a lot of blood," he says. "That's not what real violence is." To emphasise his point, Itagaki reaches for a sheathed samurai sword mounted in his office, and holds it out in front of me. :o

"In the Japanese warrior tradition you would shame an opponent. A real sword expert would aim his slice at the first four fingers of his opponent's sword hand. This would cost a warrior his livelihood and someone suffering this wound would normally commit suicide rather than live without their sword hand.

"That's what I consider to be real violence," he says, replacing the sword in its mount. "It's not about lopping off limbs. It is about the relationship between you and your opponent.In order to inflict these dishonouring wounds you would really have to hate your opponent and this is not what this game or this character is about."

:O very wisely spoken like a true samurai /bow

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#2 deactivated-58319077a6477
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I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.
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I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.Star650

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

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#4 Rhen_Var
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I didn't even have second thoughts >_>

It seemed so unrelated to 360.

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[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.kirk4ever

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

I really don't know I'm not European I'm going back to my country this year after I finish my study I live in the UK and in Sigma cutting the enemies head was not featured.

I think they are worried that people may start committing a lot of violence especially young people which is understandable.

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#6 kirk4ever
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I didn't even have second thoughts >_>

It seemed so unrelated to 360.

Rhen_Var

then you do not posses the soul of a samurai..

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#7 -platy-
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[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.kirk4ever

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

because they dont want another lunatic on their hands

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#8 OhSnapitz
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The game is violent as hell! Don't get me wrong it's a must buy for me, but don't try and downplay the violence by referencing samurai.
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#9 bleehum
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Just read it, and not buying a 360.
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#10 FDMIB
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meh..I'm not a fan of ninja gaiden so I probally wont get it
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#11 Rhen_Var
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[QUOTE="Rhen_Var"]

I didn't even have second thoughts >_>

It seemed so unrelated to 360.

kirk4ever

then you do not posses the soul of a samurai..

Works for me

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I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.Star650

I don't think you'll have to worry, since MS is the publisher they will probably do like they did with Gears, meaning simply not releasing the game at all in Germany

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#13 Saturos3091
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I somewhat agree, violence isn't really about slicing off limbs. It's what makes some of those "mature" games feel so "immature."

The article shows Itagaki has a deeper understanding of what he tries to create, which is good since it gets old after awhile just watching limbs fly, especially when they shouldn't be *looks at Lunar*.
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If the BBFC dont rate it it will get a PEGI rating,making it available to anyone who wants it despite their age

Manhunt 2 was a special case

In the UK ninja Gaiden Black and sigma werent Censored at all,but the original was slightly

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[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.ZimpanX

I don't think you'll have to worry, since MS is the publisher they will probably do like they did with Gears, meaning simply not releasing the game at all in Germany

although i dont live in eu i get pissed fellow gamers cant enjoy some games in the true way it was meant to be :(

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#16 5th_element
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I didn't even have second thoughts >_>

It seemed so unrelated to 360.

Rhen_Var

considering NG2 is on 360 its so related!!

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[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.kirk4ever

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

there are no problems in sweden

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#18 Fumpa
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The kills in MH/MH2 are much scarier. Maybe because the look and environment closer to real life than NG/NG2. NG2 is definitely a bloody game, but it doesn't feel anywhere near as bad as MH/MH2 does. I think it's the fact that NG/NG2 is closer to a cartoon than to reality that makes the experience so much less gruesome (or whatever other word you want to use) feeling.
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#19 Rigga911
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violence might make the game bad
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Haha, what a bunch of crock. I'm sure that's what he feels about chopping limbs off (or perhaps it actually is a bunch of crock) but it's certainly not the impression people who see the game get. They won't go "That warrior has been devolved into a shameful disgrace, ha! He might as well leave him lying on the ground so he can finish himself off and leave this earth with at least a smidgen of honor." when Ryu chops off the leg of an opponent, they'll go "OMG HE JUST CHOPPED THAT DUDES LEG OFF!! THERE'S BLOOD EVERYWHERE! AWESOME!" Or "CENSOR THIS FILTH!" if you're part of the German rating board.

And the game obviously isn't an authentic reenactment of ancient Japanese sword combat centered around honor and shame. You're not a samurai who shames his opponents by cutting off their fingers. It's about killing, hundreds and hundreds of other ninjas and various demons. There's no hatred involved when facing an enemy, he's just one of the hundreds you slaughter. There is no relationship.

But thinking about it, a game like that could be cool, perhaps. Never did play Bushido Blade.

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#21 cyborgjak427
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Wouldn't you should out "I AM NINJA!!" since this is Ninja Gaiden 2??
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#22 WilliamRLBaker
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And thats why i love itagaki!! not because of the games * i hated NG 1 and most of his other games* but because he has the right attitude.

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I'm not going to Shout "I AM SAMURAI !!" after purchasing the game, Ryu would kill me :( (For those who don't know, Samurai and Ninjas were sworn enemies back in the day).
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#24 thrones
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....Not Samurai

NINJA. NINJA! Repeat that several times.

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#25 InsaneBasura
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And thats why i love itagaki!! not because of the games * i hated NG 1 and most of his other games* but because he has the right attitude.

WilliamRLBaker

From what I've heard the guy is a douche.

I'm not going to Shout "I AM SAMURAI !!" after purchasing the game, Ryu would kill me :( (For those who don't know, Samurai and Ninjas were sworn enemies back in the day).Luigi_Vincetana

You forgot to mention the pirates.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

And thats why i love itagaki!! not because of the games * i hated NG 1 and most of his other games* but because he has the right attitude.

InsaneBasura

From what I've heard the guy is a douche.

You've heard correctly.

Also, no legal court on the planet would accept his ridiculous definition of violence.

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#27 xn71102244
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Ninja gaiden 2 goty 2008 hands down
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#28 Fuzzy-Warrior
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I don't wan't a 360 or ng2...
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only a true n00b would play games for mindless violence and blood & gore

this game will pwn

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

And thats why i love itagaki!! not because of the games * i hated NG 1 and most of his other games* but because he has the right attitude.

InsaneBasura

From what I've heard the guy is a douche.

I'm not going to Shout "I AM SAMURAI !!" after purchasing the game, Ryu would kill me :( (For those who don't know, Samurai and Ninjas were sworn enemies back in the day).Luigi_Vincetana

You forgot to mention the pirates.

and yet....he's one of the most popular developers in our day and age...hmmmm

and many legal courts on the planet accept his definition of violence....Many cops including american cops use violence but because its done to protect others...its not violence.... infact isn't it america that popularizes the idiotic term hate crime? trying to seperate a violent muderous act from one that is done in the spirit of hate?

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#31 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

And thats why i love itagaki!! not because of the games * i hated NG 1 and most of his other games* but because he has the right attitude.

WilliamRLBaker

From what I've heard the guy is a douche.

and yet....he's one of the most popular developers in our day and age...hmmmm

Haha, he's popular because he's a douche. He dresses like a rockstar, condescends members of the press, bashes the opposition and apparently takes credit for the games over his team. He's not like most other developers, that's why he gets noted. He's very outspoken, so to speak... The impression you get is that he thinks he's better than others and knows best. He's a douche. Great designer, but a douche.

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#32 Tiefster
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I really don't like Itagaki at all. I normally don't hate on devs but he just makes me mad.
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#33 mingo123
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after reading this, ill be downloading ninja gaiden black soon from Xbox Originals

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This guy's earned a few respect points from me.
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#35 EmperorSupreme
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NG2 big selling point seems to be the excessive gore. I think I'll pass, does nothing for me. I already have Sigma and NG2 seems like more of the same, but with more gore.... yawn.
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#36 primetime2121
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NG2 big selling point seems to be the excessive gore. I think I'll pass, does nothing for me. I already have Sigma and NG2 seems like more of the same, but with more gore.... yawn.EmperorSupreme

not really NG 2 is much better than NG:S in all aspects judging from the videos...NG2 has that little extra something that NG:S doesn't probably from all those litle upgrades across the board ..I got bored with NG and NG2 looks like it will keep my attention.

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#37 aemena
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[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.kirk4ever

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

Because they REALLY care for the quality of life of their people, you don't see kids murdering their classmates in school just because the kid got a bad day! or any of those sad histories that only happens in the U.S. or as the song says "Only in America" That's why they are better in everything, because they care about your mental and physical health!

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The kills in MH/MH2 are much scarier. Maybe because the look and environment closer to real life than NG/NG2. NG2 is definitely a bloody game, but it doesn't feel anywhere near as bad as MH/MH2 does. I think it's the fact that NG/NG2 is closer to a cartoon than to reality that makes the experience so much less gruesome (or whatever other word you want to use) feeling.Fumpa
Interesting thats sorta how i feel but im not much of a NG player it just didnt appeal to me like that game you buy and it just shines yeah NGs didnt do that at all it was just another game to me nothing special so i wont be hyping this game.
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#39 CommanderTy
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

And thats why i love itagaki!! not because of the games * i hated NG 1 and most of his other games* but because he has the right attitude.

InsaneBasura

From what I've heard the guy is a douche.

I'm not going to Shout "I AM SAMURAI !!" after purchasing the game, Ryu would kill me :( (For those who don't know, Samurai and Ninjas were sworn enemies back in the day).Luigi_Vincetana

You forgot to mention the pirates.

hahahahahhahahahahahhahah ROFL and to all the people that say yea but he has the most loved game or whatever that dont stop him from being what he is come on guys lol
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[QUOTE="kirk4ever"]

[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.aemena

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

Because they REALLY care for the quality of life of their people, you don't see kids murdering their classmates in school just because the kid got a bad day! or any of those sad histories that only happens in the U.S. or as the song says "Only in America" That's why they are better in everything, because they care about your mental and physical health!

What a load of crap! You apparently havent heard of the incident in Erfurt, Germany a few years back. I am from germany and trust me, our youth isn't that great.

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[QUOTE="aemena"][QUOTE="kirk4ever"]

[QUOTE="Star650"]I'm afraid cutting an enemy into pieces may not feature in Europe seeing how they did the same to Sigma and the original.MonacoX

man why is eu so strict..specially germany

Because they REALLY care for the quality of life of their people, you don't see kids murdering their classmates in school just because the kid got a bad day! or any of those sad histories that only happens in the U.S. or as the song says "Only in America" That's why they are better in everything, because they care about your mental and physical health!

What a load of crap! You apparently havent heard of the incident in Erfurt, Germany a few years back. I am from germany and trust me, our youth isn't that great.

....And how often does those cases happen in Europe???....my point exactly! very rare, not like in the U.S. where you hear or read about it almost every month! Your youth may not be the best but it's way better than the american youth that's for sure!!!

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ive already got a 360 thanks:)
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#43 boyinfridge
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so whats the big problem? I live in England and I was playing NGB tonight and you lob off limbs and heads already in that so what is different in NG2, just the amount of blood and a bit more detail?

If gears made it through the censorship process unscathed I think NG2 will as well.

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#44 exiledsnake
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the topic title has "I AM SAMURAI !!". why? its NINJA gaiden. ninjas and samurais hate each other.