After watching a ton of crap on killzone 2.

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#1 nmaharg
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I'll officially hype it AAA. I don't own a PS3 yet, waiting on a price drop. I mostly game on my PC and 360. But from what i've seen it looks really good. I really want to try out the multiplayer. I forgot the name, but they have a mode that pretty much goes through all the game modes every 5 minutes or so. That sounds really fun.

To those who played the beta, how does it control. Is it fast paced like Halo, or slower like COD. Can't really tell from a video.

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It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there it
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#3 nmaharg
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It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
CS difficult?
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#4 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itnmaharg
CS difficult?

CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
CS difficult?

CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc

Yeah, the game is heavily based on physics. Not just the generic ragdoll. Also, CoD isn't slow paced :?.
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#6 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
CS difficult?

CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc

You must not play much CS. And all FPSers do that. At least I thought so. Eother way, I hope my tax return is big enough to get a ps3.
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] CS difficult?

CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc

Yeah, the game is heavily based on physics. Not just the generic ragdoll. Also, CoD isn't slow paced :?.

Yeah it is. Compared to fast paced games like halo, ut, cs ect.
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#8 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] CS difficult?

CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc

You must not play much CS. And all FPSers do that. At least I thought so. Eother way, I hope my tax return is big enough to get a ps3.

Trust him, KZ2 is different. lol
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
CS difficult?

CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc

CS kinda does the same thing. if you move, your targeting reticule gets bigger, therefore your accuracy decreases

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#10 Couth_
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] You must not play much CS. And all FPSers do that. At least I thought so. Eother way, I hope my tax return is big enough to get a ps3.

I played CS years ago, I don't remember it being difficult. Not really though, KZ2 takes it to another level. You can feel the difference as soon as you pick up the sticks. It feels heavy
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Couth_"] CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etc

Yeah, the game is heavily based on physics. Not just the generic ragdoll. Also, CoD isn't slow paced :?.

Yeah it is. Compared to fast paced games like halo, ut, cs ect.

Well, there's really no debating if you feel that way. The only way CoD can ever be slow paced is if you're playing Search and Destroy. Still then the core mechanics are quick, tight, and arcadey (not in a bad way!).
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] You must not play much CS. And all FPSers do that. At least I thought so. Eother way, I hope my tax return is big enough to get a ps3.

I played CS years ago, I don't remember it being difficult. Not really though, KZ2 takes it to another level. You can feel the difference as soon as you pick up the sticks. It feels heavy

Yeah momentum affects things as well. So does the wind! The recoil is even tuned differently as is the hit-detection.
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It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_

Realistic like Rainbow Six 1-3, Swat 3 & 4,Operation Flashpoint :D

or "realistic" like CS with all the bunny hoping arcade stuff you can thik of. :roll:

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just another first person shooter, nothing to see here...
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#16 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itglez13

Realistic like Rainbow Six 1-3, Swat 3 & 4,Operation Flashpoint :D

or "realistic" like CS with all the bunny hoping arcade stuff you can thik of. :roll:

It reminds me of Rainbow Six, with more physics involved
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#17 Shafftehr
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It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
So you're saying Killzone is more realistic than CoD? Well, I guess it's pretty obvious... The real Helghast look pretty much the same as the ones in Killzone.
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It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing without its 60 fps

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#20 blehblahblep
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killzone2 is a scripted rail shooter
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#21 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there it-Mad_Rhetoric-

its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing with its 60 fps

I don't think Nazis were rabid or anything. Other than specially trained units of shock troops and whatnot, they weren't actually much more aggressive on the battlefield than anyone else. I mean, National Socialism was a political party, not a fight club.
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#22 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itShafftehr

its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing with its 60 fps

I don't think Nazis were rabid or anything. Other than specially trained units of shock troops and whatnot, they weren't actually much more aggressive on the battlefield than anyone else. I mean, National Socialism was a political party, not a fight club.

well the halgast look very aggressive and badass killing machines
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#23 jakarai
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I don't like it when people who don't even own a PS3 start hyping games AAA. Then the fanboys will claim we all hyped the game AAA when that is not the case. The game looks like it will be good but please don't hype this one AAA.
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there it-Mad_Rhetoric-

its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing without its 60 fps

So in few words it isnt realistic or difficult as he stated.

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#25 nmaharg
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I don't like it when people who don't even own a PS3 start hyping games AAA. Then the fanboys will claim we all hyped the game AAA when that is not the case. The game looks like it will be good but please don't hype this one AAA. jakarai
It's my right a SW poster to hype whatever I want. Thank you.
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[QUOTE="glez13"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing without its 60 fps

So in few words it isnt realistic or difficult as he stated.

incorrect. Killzone 2 is pretty realistic, and very slow paced, even though the maps are pretty small. You take damage pretty easily, and your health does not regenerate like in halo, and you die pretty easily after like 5 shots.
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[QUOTE="glez13"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing without its 60 fps

So in few words it isnt realistic or difficult as he stated.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the feel of the game and the multiplayer. He said he actually played the game why would you try to discredit him?
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#28 TheOrigin
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i'm glad to hear that it feels "heavy" as even realistic games like COD the guns feel like toys. It's a little harder to shoot real guns. Still everything else about COD is immaculate.
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It's not like Halo or CoD. It's difficult, probably the most realistic shooter there itCouth_
i loled,thanks for the laugh.
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[QUOTE="glez13"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"] its is not difficult, I've seen countless vids/gif where the player just runs around in the open meleeing and shooting helgast bearly taking any damage, the AI by the default difficulty is not aggressive, which is ironic because they dress like nazis, MP is another story

BTW COD4 blazes at 60 fps, while KZ2 runs smooth at 30 fps, COD4's intense gameplay would be nothing without its 60 fps

CWEBB04z

So in few words it isnt realistic or difficult as he stated.

incorrect. Killzone 2 is pretty realistic, and very slow paced, even though the maps are pretty small. You take damage pretty easily, and your health does not regenerate like in halo, and you die pretty easily after like 5 shots.

LOL

Armed Assault or Red Orchestra are realistic. You get shot, you're dead. get shot in the legs, you can't walk. Get shot in the arm, can't aim your gun. They are both based on realistic military hardware, no health packs, no crazy weapons.

Killzone 2 has aliens. and spaceships.

So please don't say it's realistic.

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killzone2 is a scripted rail shooter blehblahblep

fanboys say the darnest things lol

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[QUOTE="blehblahblep"]killzone2 is a scripted rail shooter ps3_owns_360Wii

fanboys say the darnest things lol

says the person who's name is: ps3_owns_360Wii

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#33 CWEBB04z
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="glez13"]

So in few words it isnt realistic or difficult as he stated.

kerpal_cz

incorrect. Killzone 2 is pretty realistic, and very slow paced, even though the maps are pretty small. You take damage pretty easily, and your health does not regenerate like in halo, and you die pretty easily after like 5 shots.

LOL

Armed Assault or Red Orchestra are realistic. You get shot, you're dead. get shot in the legs, you can't walk. Get shot in the arm, can't aim your gun. They are both based on realistic military hardware, no health packs, no crazy weapons.

Killzone 2 has aliens. and spaceships.

So please don't say it's realistic.

Killzone 2 has aliens and spaceships? news to me.
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I don't like it when people who don't even own a PS3 start hyping games AAA. Then the fanboys will claim we all hyped the game AAA when that is not the case. The game looks like it will be good but please don't hype this one AAA. jakarai
To late for that. Its been hyped AAA for the past year. Is it going to get it? Probably not. The hype will bring it down and every aspect of it will be criticized to no end. It will be a very good game, but it will probably go down as the biggest flop in SW history.
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killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.
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killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.sonny2dap
What fun? Please I can't name any FPS that has done something new this gen. You don't know anymore than I know. So just like I never told you what to do, don't tell me what the.... Well just don't tell me what to do.
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]incorrect. Killzone 2 is pretty realistic, and very slow paced, even though the maps are pretty small. You take damage pretty easily, and your health does not regenerate like in halo, and you die pretty easily after like 5 shots. kerpal_cz

LOL

Armed Assault or Red Orchestra are realistic. You get shot, you're dead. get shot in the legs, you can't walk. Get shot in the arm, can't aim your gun. They are both based on realistic military hardware, no health packs, no crazy weapons.

Killzone 2 has aliens. and spaceships.

So please don't say it's realistic.

Hey, we wouldn't want it to be that realistic, it would be no fun.

Anyway, I like the Heavy feel in Killzone 2, and it's really physic based.

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killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.sonny2dap

lol, they invented the fps cover system how is that not new??

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[QUOTE="sonny2dap"]killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.nmaharg
What fun? Please I can't name any FPS that has done something new this gen. You don't know anymore than I know. So just like I never told you what to do, don't tell me what the.... Well just don't tell me what to do.

Also, done nothing new? What do you call the first person cover system? Oh, right, CoD4 did it all the time!!! :roll:
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#40 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="sonny2dap"]killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.GodofBigMacs
What fun? Please I can't name any FPS that has done something new this gen. You don't know anymore than I know. So just like I never told you what to do, don't tell me what the.... Well just don't tell me what to do.

Also, done nothing new? What do you call the first person cover system? Oh, right, CoD4 did it all the time!!! :roll:

Rainbow six on the original xbox did that son.
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l[QUOTE="sonny2dap"]killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.blazer105

lol, they invented the fps cover system how is that not new??

oh cmon don't say they invented it. plenty of shooters on PC for years have allowed you to lean out of cover
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#42 GodofBigMacs
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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] What fun? Please I can't name any FPS that has done something new this gen. You don't know anymore than I know. So just like I never told you what to do, don't tell me what the.... Well just don't tell me what to do.nmaharg
Also, done nothing new? What do you call the first person cover system? Oh, right, CoD4 did it all the time!!! :roll:

Rainbow six on the original xbox did that son.

Not in first person, though... or at least not Rainbow Six Vegas.
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#43 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="blazer105"]

l[QUOTE="sonny2dap"]killzone 2 has good graphics thats it, the cover system is lifted directly from rainbow six and thats it nothing new. dont hype this game to be something it isn't.DivergeUnify

lol, they invented the fps cover system how is that not new??

oh cmon don't say they invented it. plenty of shooters on PC for years have allowed you to lean out of cover

I'm seriously surprised they don't know this.
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#44 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"] Also, done nothing new? What do you call the first person cover system? Oh, right, CoD4 did it all the time!!! :roll:GodofBigMacs
Rainbow six on the original xbox did that son.

Not in first person, though... or at least not Rainbow Six Vegas.

Yeah in first person. You really didn't know? I guess my friends are right. I play too many FPSers.
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Couth_"] CS is difficult? :? Realistic difficult. Running throws off your aim, spinning fast throws of your aim, etcnmaharg
Yeah, the game is heavily based on physics. Not just the generic ragdoll. Also, CoD isn't slow paced :?.

Yeah it is. Compared to fast paced games like halo, ut, cs ect.

Well, Halo is slow paced imo. Well at least the 1st one is, havent played 2 or 3.
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Watching isn't playing. One cannot determine the quality of a game from watching it. Killzone 2 is designed to be eye-candy.
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#47 nmaharg
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Watching isn't playing. One cannot determine the quality of a game from watching it. Killzone 2 is designed to be eye-candy.foxhound_fox
Hell you can't. Took one look at dead space and knew it would be good, same with gears and resident evil 4. You play enough fps you can tell if its going to be fun or not. I really don't play FPSers for the single player, so im judging killzone based on multilayer alone. And from what ive seen it looks great, AAA no doubt in my mind.
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#48 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="blehblahblep"]killzone2 is a scripted rail shooter ogvampire

fanboys say the darnest things lol

says the person who's name is: ps3_owns_360Wii

maybe because i play my ps3 more than my 360 and wii...

maybe you shouldnt judge people by their user name:|

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#49 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Watching isn't playing. One cannot determine the quality of a game from watching it. Killzone 2 is designed to be eye-candy.nmaharg
Hell you can't. Took one look at dead space and knew it would be good, same with gears and resident evil 4. You play enough fps you can tell if its going to be fun or not. I really don't play FPSers for the single player, so im judging killzone based on multilayer alone. And from what ive seen it looks great, AAA no doubt in my mind.

I'd have to agree. 90% of the time my appeal of a game is usually predetermined from previews, vids, and impressions. I'm sure majority of gamers can judge a game rather fairly before purchasing a game. KZ2 looks really satisfying and fun. If KZ2's MP is outstanding (like reported from the beta) it should be a fantastic game. MP carries shooters a LONG way. (Gears, Halo, and COD4 are prime examples.)
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#50 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Watching isn't playing. One cannot determine the quality of a game from watching it. Killzone 2 is designed to be eye-candy.nmaharg
Hell you can't. Took one look at dead space and knew it would be good, same with gears and resident evil 4. You play enough fps you can tell if its going to be fun or not. I really don't play FPSers for the single player, so im judging killzone based on multilayer alone. And from what ive seen it looks great, AAA no doubt in my mind.

I think it takes just one good FPS to determine the quality of other FPSs.