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That would be awesome if it's on the new console I loved Alan Wake....looks like MS is hard at work on the new xbox...woot!
My prediction might be correct. MS's current lack of exclusives may be due to their planing of launch games for NextBox.That would be awesome if it's on the new console I loved Alan Wake....looks like MS is hard at work on the new xbox...woot!
chikenfriedrice
Cool I will buy it for PC...oh wait MS sucks and doesnt support their PC customers, nevermind ;).
NaveedLife
MS can't win with this logic lol
[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]My prediction might be correct. MS's current lack of exclusives may be due to their planing of launch games for NextBox.That would be awesome if it's on the new console I loved Alan Wake....looks like MS is hard at work on the new xbox...woot!
Plagueless
I hope that is the case
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
Cool I will buy it for PC...oh wait MS sucks and doesnt support their PC customers, nevermind ;).
chikenfriedrice
MS can't win with this logic lol
What are you talking about? They would make more money if they had it on PC too. I know why they do it. They do it because they want their XBox brand to have SOME exclusives. They dont have good first parties, so they do what they can to make the 360 have a decent exclusive library. I am just sick of games like Alan Wake and Shadow Complex being canned for the PC at the last second, and as Remedy said, it was NOT their choice. But I guess I should just remember that "Alan Wake is more suited for a console expeirence" or whatever they said. What a load of crap.
http://sillegamer.com/?p=4239 "........yes, more Alan wake is coming and it's not Alan wake 2, but it's not DLC either". Then WTF is it? It must be one of the two because a third answer to the question doesn't exist. Sounds like the Devs got caught off guard so gave a confusing answer not to spoil any next gen console plans. I hope the game stays in the beautiful forestrich-sac
it doesn't? I can think of a few:
-It's a spinoff
-It's a prequel
-It's a web series
-It's a movie/TV show
[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]
[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]
Cool I will buy it for PC...oh wait MS sucks and doesnt support their PC customers, nevermind ;).
NaveedLife
MS can't win with this logic lol
What are you talking about? They would make more money if they had it on PC too. I know why they do it. They do it because they want their XBox brand to have SOME exclusives. They dont have good first parties, so they do what they can to make the 360 have a decent exclusive library. I am just sick of games like Alan Wake and Shadow Complex being canned for the PC at the last second, and as Remedy said, it was NOT their choice. But I guess I should just remember that "Alan Wake is more suited for a console expeirence" or whatever they said. What a load of crap.
I'm talking about in SW's...MS already gets bashed for not having enough exclusives
Alan Wake is probably one of my top 3 games this generation and easily one of the best in terms of story, atmosphere and original setting. I STRONGLY suggest you check out the short promo movie made for Alan Wake called Brightfalls. If you have played and enjoyed Alan Wake it's absolutely stunning, one of the best short movies i've ever seen.
Check it out on Youtube, you won't regret it.
Edit: Just noticed that the quote is a real old one and it more likely that it will be a spinoff than a full fledged sequel.
Ya, between AMD confirming that the next xbox will be using their APU tech , and all other info, the next xbox wont be a powerhouse.If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.
Kinthalis
[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]My prediction might be correct. MS's current lack of exclusives may be due to their planing of launch games for NextBox. Yeah, good thinking. Confirmed: PS4 HAS NO GAMES!!!That would be awesome if it's on the new console I loved Alan Wake....looks like MS is hard at work on the new xbox...woot!
Plagueless
Sequel to the biggest letdown of this generation? No thanks.silversix_
Did you actually play it? I can think of a lot more games that were bigger let downs. I enjoyed Alan Wake a lot actually, still have to play the 2nd dlc.
It's not happening anyway. Halo being released the end of next year completely excludes that possibility from consideration.If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.
Kinthalis
If there's anyone that hasn't played the first Alan Wake, Amazon has the voucher code for the downloable version for $6.70 with free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KODHKM
Microsoft has to be careful when releasing the nextbox because if they release it too early and the PS4 doesnt release shortly after then the 3rd parties will continue to work for the PS3 and wii u for multiplats so they can be more profitable. They dont want the nextbox to be the only true next generation console.layton2012
Um, are you forgetting about the Wii U releasing first? Microsoft shouldn't have any problems with that.
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.Ya, between AMD confirming that the next xbox will be using their APU tech , and all other info, the next xbox wont be a powerhouse.04dcarraher
If anything, Microsoft may match Wii U in terms of specs. If Sony decides to go overboard the Wii U & the next Xbox in terms of graphics & power, then 3rd parties are going to be paying more attention to both the Wii U & the next Xbox system instead of PS4. Why? Very high cost of development for making games on that platform.
I don't know, there was something about the first game that was extremely boring. I honestly dont' know what it was, but I just couldn't get into it.
I reckon its just a sequel annoucement that was leaked by accident. I enjoyed the first game and hopefully this will improve upon it. I dont think we will see new Xbox until 2013 as Halo 4 is scheduled for next year and Microsoft wont want to take sales from that.
It's not happening anyway. Halo being released the end of next year completely excludes that possibility from consideration.[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.
SakusEnvoy
Yep. You're right. So back to end fo 2013-2014 at earliest I guess.
The only reason I want to see new consoles ('cause I'm not getitng one next gen at all) Is because we'll finally start to see games that utilize modern PC hardware. Finally!
Rumor is it's an XBLA game called Night Springs that's based off the Alan Wake universe. Chances are it'll have Kinect support.
http://sillegamer.com/?p=4239 "........yes, more Alan wake is coming and it's not Alan wake 2, but it's not DLC either". Then WTF is it? It must be one of the two because a third answer to the question doesn't exist.trich-sac
The rumored Alan Wake: Night Springs for XBLA. If it's not AW2 and it's not DLC, that leaves spin-off.
isn't supopsed to have some sort of deriviative of the bulldozer/apu that amd is supposed to be working on? Throw something like that in on a console it will have seriously large amount of room to grow. You don't need 4 gtx 580's on a console to get equivalent performance, the driver model is more straight to the hardware instead of going through OS calls, which get pushed onto a hardware stack, its completely plausable for a 6850 ish class gpu to get in a console right now. The 360's gpu chip was something like $112 per chip, a 6850 costs something like 150 retail, which taking into account the board, the chip proabably costs around $50-$70.If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.
Kinthalis
actually I don't want a Sequel to Alan Wake.
It ended in a way that it shouldn't be continued, I mean how could they continue it?
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]isn't supopsed to have some sort of deriviative of the bulldozer/apu that amd is supposed to be working on? Throw something like that in on a console it will have seriously large amount of room to grow. You don't need 4 gtx 580's on a console to get equivalent performance, the driver model is more straight to the hardware instead of going through OS calls, which get pushed onto a hardware stack, its completely plausable for a 6850 ish class gpu to get in a console right now. The 360's gpu chip was something like $112 per chip, a 6850 costs something like 150 retail, which taking into account the board, the chip proabably costs around $50-$70.Yea and when you add a discrete GPU, even a cheap one ($40-$50), you can increase GPU performance by 40% when cross-fired with the APU. The next Xbox could be a beast.If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.
savagetwinkie
[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]isn't supopsed to have some sort of deriviative of the bulldozer/apu that amd is supposed to be working on? Throw something like that in on a console it will have seriously large amount of room to grow. You don't need 4 gtx 580's on a console to get equivalent performance, the driver model is more straight to the hardware instead of going through OS calls, which get pushed onto a hardware stack, its completely plausable for a 6850 ish class gpu to get in a console right now. The 360's gpu chip was something like $112 per chip, a 6850 costs something like 150 retail, which taking into account the board, the chip proabably costs around $50-$70.Yea and when you add a discrete GPU, even a cheap one ($40-$50), you can increase GPU performance by 40% when cross-fired with the APU. The next Xbox could be a beast.If that's true and the next xbox is hitting 2012/ealry 2013 consolites relaly need to forget the whole "Next box will have 4 GTX 580's and a 6 core bulldozer CPU!!!", cause that ain't happeniog.
KC_Hokie
That's only If the GPu's are roughly even in performance. And there's no way you're getting an APU with 6850 performance in an APU in 1 year.
The current APU's from AMD aren't bad. They run games at slightly better than console graphics levels (I have one running on my home theater PC), but at full 720p and at 30+ FPS (I get 45 on Dirt 3 and medium settings 720p). But even adding 40% performance boost to that, it's not going to compare ot a GTX 580, low level programming or no.
Yea and when you add a discrete GPU, even a cheap one ($40-$50), you can increase GPU performance by 40% when cross-fired with the APU. The next Xbox could be a beast.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] isn't supopsed to have some sort of deriviative of the bulldozer/apu that amd is supposed to be working on? Throw something like that in on a console it will have seriously large amount of room to grow. You don't need 4 gtx 580's on a console to get equivalent performance, the driver model is more straight to the hardware instead of going through OS calls, which get pushed onto a hardware stack, its completely plausable for a 6850 ish class gpu to get in a console right now. The 360's gpu chip was something like $112 per chip, a 6850 costs something like 150 retail, which taking into account the board, the chip proabably costs around $50-$70.Kinthalis
That's only If the GPu's are roughly even in performance. And there's no way you're getting an APU with 6850 performance in an APU in 1 year.
The current APU's from AMD aren't bad. They run games at slightly better than console graphics levels (I have one running on my home theater PC), but at full 720p and at 30+ FPS (I get 45 on Dirt 3 and medium settings 720p). But even adding 40% performance boost to that, it's not going to compare ot a GTX 580, low level programming or no.
The next Xbox won't be out for two years (at least). That means several more AMD APUs will be created between now and then. And the ratio of APU graphical performance to discrete GPU isn't 1:1.And consoles get more performance out of the hardware than PCs due to the OS and system architecture. So you also can't compare PC hardware to console hardware 1:1 either.
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea and when you add a discrete GPU, even a cheap one ($40-$50), you can increase GPU performance by 40% when cross-fired with the APU. The next Xbox could be a beast.KC_Hokie
That's only If the GPu's are roughly even in performance. And there's no way you're getting an APU with 6850 performance in an APU in 1 year.
The current APU's from AMD aren't bad. They run games at slightly better than console graphics levels (I have one running on my home theater PC), but at full 720p and at 30+ FPS (I get 45 on Dirt 3 and medium settings 720p). But even adding 40% performance boost to that, it's not going to compare ot a GTX 580, low level programming or no.
The next Xbox won't be out for two years (at least). That means several more AMD APUs will be created between now and then. And the ratio of APU graphical performance to discrete GPU isn't 1:1. What people tend to forget is that the designing and testing of consoles start years prior to release, which means at best you will see is late 2011- to mid 2012 tech inside of a new console if released by 2013. The also the purpose of using APU's is to lower costs, uses less power which in turns produces less heat and shrinks the console size down too. But it looks like the next xbox will be using Trinity based APU which is suppose to be around 50% faster the Llano APU's so at best in an APU by late 2012 or 2013 you will see 5770/6770 graphics performance which is still 4x faster then the 360 gpu.The next Xbox won't be out for two years (at least). That means several more AMD APUs will be created between now and then. And the ratio of APU graphical performance to discrete GPU isn't 1:1. What people tend to forget is that the designing and testing of consoles start years prior to release, which means at best you will see is late 2011- to mid 2012 tech inside of a new console if released by 2013. The also the purpose of using APU's is to lower costs, uses less power which in turns produces less heat and shrinks the console size down too. But it looks like the next xbox will be using Trinity based APU which is suppose to be around 50% faster the Llano APU's so at best in an APU by late 2012 or 2013 you will see 5770/6770 graphics performance which is still 4x faster then the 360 gpu.MS more than likely knows on paper how the next Xbox will function. However, the APU technology more than likely doesn't exist yet. AMD is researching it and making a lot of progress.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
That's only If the GPu's are roughly even in performance. And there's no way you're getting an APU with 6850 performance in an APU in 1 year.
The current APU's from AMD aren't bad. They run games at slightly better than console graphics levels (I have one running on my home theater PC), but at full 720p and at 30+ FPS (I get 45 on Dirt 3 and medium settings 720p). But even adding 40% performance boost to that, it's not going to compare ot a GTX 580, low level programming or no.
04dcarraher
Yes, the idea of an APU is lower cost and power usage. Even with a cheap GPU crossfired the power consumption and cost will both be lower than a discrete GPU of the same power and ability.
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