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#1 Wanderer5
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To celebrate Gamespot's "All Time Greatest Game Hero"award to Half-Life's Dr. Gordon Freeman we are offering all Half Life games at 55.8% off!

There are other great game heroes, and we're gonna let you play with them, but Gordon Freeman is THE BEST GAME HERO OF ALL TIME at least according to 55.8% of the gaming public - thank you to all who voted.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2959/

Pretty clever idea. The only HL game I would be interesting in getting now would be the episodes.

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#2 AndyAlfredo
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We should've got everyone to vote for Gordon. 100% of all Half-Life games!

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#3 Mckenna1845
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We should've got everyone to vote for Gordon. 100% of all Half-Life games!

AndyAlfredo
lol exactly, the only valve game i don't have is half life, but i'm waiting on the black mesa version, for those that don't have some of these games cool kittens to them.
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#6 Animal-Mother
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Aweomse, i've def been wanting to try out half life source. Thanks for the info TC

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#7 organic_machine
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Valve's description of their idea is hilarious.

Also, TC, I LOVE Neotokyo. I wish more people were playing it. It's probably my favourite online FPS this gen.

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#8 agff9
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not interested... Raziel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gordon phi freeman...
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#9 -Tretiak
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lol @ butthurt Nintendo fans.

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#10 adamosmaki
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Thats why valve is great? will you ever see MS sony or nintendo do something like that for their fanbase?
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#11 markop2003
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The awards ceremony that was rigged by fourchan? :lol: Those guys are beneficial to the internet community after all.

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Actually they gave up rigging it as soon as "Bub and Bob" were kicked and planned a mass hack, nothing happened of it though
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#12 agff9
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Thats why valve is great? will you ever see MS sony or nintendo do something like that for their fanbase?adamosmaki
fans already have those games....
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its a sad day in gaming that suchs a weak character like gordon freeman won greatest of all time . Steam useds its millions of users to promote him witch is unfair .

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#14 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]Thats why valve is great will you ever see MS sony or nintendo do something like that for their fanbase?agff9
fans already have those games....

Have them or not is a great way to attracto more people to try your game
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#15 HotRevolver
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I would pick them up if I didn't own pretty much everything Half-Life already :P Oh well, for people who haven't played it you can get Half Life 2, the episodes, and deathmatch for $15. Good deal.

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#16 -Tretiak
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its a sad day in gaming that suchs a weak character like gordon freeman won greatest of all time . Steam useds its millions of users to promote him witch is unfair .

dontshackzmii

-There was no Steam announcement for the final.

-Gordon was beating Link when the Steam announcement was posted.

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#17 kenakuma
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its a sad day in gaming that suchs a weak character like gordon freeman won greatest of all time . Steam useds its millions of users to promote him witch is unfair .

dontshackzmii

ugh, facepalm......

On a side note I personally voted for Mario but I'm, kinda glad Gordon won now.

Nintendo most likely would have done nothing for us gamers if Mario won :(

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#18 fuchuzz
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its a sad day in gaming that suchs a weak character like gordon freeman won greatest of all time . Steam useds its millions of users to promote him witch is unfair .

dontshackzmii
Gordon is more of a character then Mario will ever be, name one thing that makes mario better then Freeman. Nintendo just dosen't care about there fan base as much as valve does.
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#19 JetB1ackNewYear
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ugh i have half life 2 and never beat it. its been istting there for like 3 years now haha. guys should i play it and get episodes 1 and 2? are they better then hl2?
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#20 Wanderer5
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Valve's description of their idea is hilarious.

Also, TC, I LOVE Neotokyo. I wish more people were playing it. It's probably my favourite online FPS this gen.

organic_machine

I like how they use the kanye west's joke.:lol:

And NeoTokyo is great, even through I still trying to get the hang of it in some parts. Otherwise it can be pretty fun, and I just love the setting. But yeah there aren't that many people playing it sadly. There like only two servers out of like the 81 servers on the list that are active most of the time.

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#21 JetB1ackNewYear
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Valve's description of their idea is hilarious.

Also, TC, I LOVE Neotokyo. I wish more people were playing it. It's probably my favourite online FPS this gen.

Wanderer5

I like how they use the kanye west's joke.:lol:

And NeoTokyo is great, even through I still trying to get the hang of it in some parts. Otherwise it can be pretty fun, and I just love the setting. But yeah there aren't that many people playing it sadly. There like only two servers out of like the 81 servers on the list that are active most of the time.

hahaha thats great!!! i didnt even notice!
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#22 Kenbo325
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This is great!
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#23 rcignoni
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I didn't notice the Kanye impression until now. XD That's golden. Kind of like how one of the walls in Crash Course has "cool story bro" on it. Gotta love Valve's internet humor.
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#24 San_09
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Haha.... Gotta love how Valve pulled this one off!

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#25 789shadow
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To celebrate Gamespot's "All Time Greatest Game Hero"award to Half-Life's Dr. Gordon Freeman we are offering all Half Life games at 55.8% off!

There are other great game heroes, and we're gonna let you play with them, but Gordon Freeman is THE BEST GAME HERO OF ALL TIME at least according to 55.8% of the gaming public - thank you to all who voted.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2959/

Pretty clever idea. The only HL game I would be interesting in getting now would be the episodes.

Wanderer5

Wrong. Like Valve doesn't know it practically fixed the results.

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#26 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

To celebrate Gamespot's "All Time Greatest Game Hero"award to Half-Life's Dr. Gordon Freeman we are offering all Half Life games at 55.8% off!

There are other great game heroes, and we're gonna let you play with them, but Gordon Freeman is THE BEST GAME HERO OF ALL TIME at least according to 55.8% of the gaming public - thank you to all who voted.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2959/

Pretty clever idea. The only HL game I would be interesting in getting now would be the episodes.

789shadow

Wrong. Like Valve doesn't know it practically fixed the results.

What do you mean?

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#27 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

To celebrate Gamespot's "All Time Greatest Game Hero"award to Half-Life's Dr. Gordon Freeman we are offering all Half Life games at 55.8% off!

There are other great game heroes, and we're gonna let you play with them, but Gordon Freeman is THE BEST GAME HERO OF ALL TIME at least according to 55.8% of the gaming public - thank you to all who voted.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2959/

Pretty clever idea. The only HL game I would be interesting in getting now would be the episodes.

Wanderer5

Wrong. Like Valve doesn't know it practically fixed the results.

What do you mean?

They advertised on Steam right before the Freeman vs. Link match. If you payed closse attention to that one, you would notice Link taking 15 minutes to catch up only to be 500 points behind 5 minutes later. Of course, the whole thing was complete BS.

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#28 mo0ksi
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I have to keep remembering that it was the greatest game hero, not best character.

I voted for Mario becasue he is basically the OG of heroism. He's been around the block more times than he remembered and time and time again proved on how he can still save the day and shake down the house. Freeman is the same way, only he's you and the "house shaking" is much more...shakier. Personally I picked JC Denton to win the whole thing, but I kinda see now on why Freeman won. All in all, it's cool that Valve is doing this.

I think I'm the only one who understands this post :?

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#29 Crazyguy105
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They certainly took an internet poll as serious business. :lol:

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#30 InsaneBasura
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See what you get for not being a boring conformist? Now this contest or whatever feels like it actually had a purpose.

Oh and my sig was totally premonitionous.

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#34 Cherokee_Jack
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I would get HL Source if I wasn't still clinging pathetically to the hope that Black Mesa will be released at some point.
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#36 imprezawrx500
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oh well to bad I already have them all.
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#37 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Wrong. Like Valve doesn't know it practically fixed the results.

What do you mean?

They advertised on Steam right before the Freeman vs. Link match. If you payed closse attention to that one, you would notice Link taking 15 minutes to catch up only to be 500 points behind 5 minutes later. Of course, the whole thing was complete BS.

That's pretty messed up. It doesn't really matter to them whether they lower the price because it's for the downloadable version, which comes in little supply and costs them nothing to produce. In return for winning, they get tons of sales and tons of free advertising for their games(and Steam).
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#38 Guitar_Zed
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

its a sad day in gaming that suchs a weak character like gordon freeman won greatest of all time . Steam useds its millions of users to promote him witch is unfair .

fuchuzz

Gordon is more of a character then Mario will ever be, name one thing that makes mario better then Freeman. Nintendo just dosen't care about there fan base as much as valve does.

Are you serious? Gordon doesnt even talk. how can he better than mario if he has ZERO personality. Gordons just there :P

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#39 110million
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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

They advertised on Steam right before the Freeman vs. Link match. If you payed closse attention to that one, you would notice Link taking 15 minutes to catch up only to be 500 points behind 5 minutes later. Of course, the whole thing was complete BS.

789shadow

Dude, that was all fourchan. Why did you think B&B beat Master Chief for?

Fourchan was behind B&B, but Steam users were behing Gordon.

Meh, nothing wrong with telling Half-Life fans about Gordon Freeman.. I'm sure if Nintendo put it up on their site, to vote for Link or Mario, you woulden't complain...
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#40 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Dude, that was all fourchan. Why did you think B&B beat Master Chief for?ChrisSpartan117

Fourchan was behind B&B, but Steam users were behing Gordon.

Meh, nothing wrong with telling Half-Life fans about Gordon Freeman.. I'm sure if Nintendo put it up on their site, to vote for Link or Mario, you woulden't complain...

Maybe he wouldn't, but I would. I don't like how Valve or anyone else bribed people to vote for them like that. The way Valve did it would give people who didn't think they were the best a benefit. If you didn't care who won, but liked Link more than Gordon, you would vote for him. What Valve did was get those people who didn't care about who won-- who were planning or would buy a Half-Life game-- to vote for them. I'm not sure if I confused you, since i'm not that good at explaining things :p.
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#41 Planeforger
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its a sad day in gaming that suchs a weak character like gordon freeman won greatest of all time . Steam useds its millions of users to promote him witch is unfair .

dontshackzmii

None of the top four had any personality, so it doesn't really matter.
All of the interesting characters went out in the first round, like Guybrush, The Nameless One, Cate Archer, Abe, Phoenix Wright, Garret and Manny. Beyond that, they're mainly just mute grunts who kill things, with absolutely no character development.

I don't like how Valve or anyone else bribed people to vote for them like that. The way Valve did it would give people who didn't think they were the best a benefit. If you didn't care who won, but liked Link more than Gordon, you would vote for him. What Valve did was get those people who didn't care about who won-- who were planning or would buy a Half-Life game-- to vote for them. I'm not sure if I confused you, since i'm not that good at explaining things :p.RogueShodown

They never bribed people, as we didn't know there would be a discount until...what, a week after they asked us to vote? People who weren't already fans wouldn't have bothered clicking the link to vote, and Nintendo could've easily done the same on their website/on the Wii, so it's all fair.

As it is, Valve have a stronger connection with their online community, so them winning a popularity competition makes sense. It doesn't mean anything at all anyway. so relax :P

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#42 Danm_999
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They advertised on Steam right before the Freeman vs. Link match. If you payed closse attention to that one, you would notice Link taking 15 minutes to catch up only to be 500 points behind 5 minutes later. Of course, the whole thing was complete BS.

789shadow

So?

That doesn't mean Valve fixed anything. They directly encouraged users of their service to vote for their character. There was no underhandedness, there was no bribery or promise of monetary compensation, they just made an appeal to their fans to support their character.

If Link fans weren't able to unite support in a similar fashion, he doesn't really deserve to win.

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#43 DethSkematik
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Yeah, saw that when I logged in Steam. Once again, Gordon is the hero :P. Personally, I couldn't see Nintendo doing a deal like that if Mario won the poll ;). I'd take that deal...but, I already got all of 'em :D.
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#44 skrat_01
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Lulz People really getting wound up over it? Gordon won the popularity contest. The good, compelling characters got knocked out at the start - its a popularity contest. However Gordon isn't even a proper character, he is a piece of game design. Rather this poll was for the greatest video game 'hero', not 'best / compelling character'.
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#45 fabz_95
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That's pretty cool, I doubt Nintendo would have done something like this so everybody wins.

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#46 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"] The good, compelling characters got knocked out at the start - its a popularity contest. However Gordon isn't even a proper character, he is a piece of game design. Rather this poll was for the greatest video game 'hero', not 'best / compelling character'.

Exactly. As much as I love the games Mario, Link and Gordon are in, in any other medium, they'd be considered utterly abysmal characters. It's the strength of their games that create their popularity.
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The day you guys stop trying to see games through the lens of film, novels, etc, the better. The video game medium doesn't need to cosy up to the other mediums to authenticate itself. That directly correlates to the particulars of video game characters.

Gordon was a perfectly reasonable choice as the greatest video game hero ever. I personally would've given it to Mario, but Gordon's no slouch.

I think choices like The Nameless One or April Ryan (or Zoe Castillo), while intriguing in their own right, are just too pretentious and unwieldy for video game characters. This is a contest about video game characters, key word being video game. If developers (and you) are so out-of-touch with their medium as to not factor that into creating their characters, you'd probably be making quite a detached interactive experience.

Look at Gordon Freeman's companion, Alyx. She theoretically is the most boring supporting character in video games, let alone entertainment. Words cannot describe just how lame her back story and character plot are, but for some strange reason, she's one of the most compelling video game sidekicks ever, if not THE most compelling.

On a side note, I hope Niko Bellic is considered to be one of the greatest video game characters of all time sometime in the future. He may be underrated/underappreciated now due to the mild backlash against GTAIV, but his design is incredibly masterful. He quite possibly is the most evolved form of the video game protagonist I've seen yet.

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#48 Danm_999
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The concept of a 'character', or a 'well rounded character' or 'good character development' is fundamentally tied into those mediums though. The video game didn't re-invent characterisation, it's initial lack of personality was due to technical restraints, not artistic choice. Otherwise what else can we possibly be judging these characters on? If it's the enjoyment we associate with the context we experience them in, it's not really a reflection on the character, is it? The least we can say for these guys is that they don't impede the enjoyment of the wider game.
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#49 FrozenLiquid
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The concept of a 'character', or a 'well rounded character' or 'good character development' is fundamentally tied into those mediums though. The video game didn't re-invent characterisation, it's initial lack of personality was due to technical restraints, not artistic choice. Otherwise what else can we possibly be judging these characters on? If it's the enjoyment we associate with the context we experience them in, it's not really a reflection on the character, is it? The least we can say for these guys is that they don't impede the enjoyment of the wider game.Danm_999

I think the first idea is the key point. Characters are fundamental to other mediums, but not video games. I would argue that lack of personality was not due to technical restraints, because you have those old-school text adventures that could write you a character to death. I simply think characterization is just not a big deal when it comes to games. While I know a lot of people here pride in their awesome characters and awesome stories, a lot of the games I see quoted for these supposed stories and characters are actually pretty decent games in their own right.

If anyone was truly playing games for stories and characters, they'd probably be playing adventure games or something as 'boring' and 'stale' as that genre. Yes, the adventure genre is my favourite genre of all time :)

Really though, characters are an extension of game design. It's the other way around for most other mediums (not brought up in the modern/post-modern age), especially film and television; how many no-name directors come and go from network tv series, it certainly wouldn't matter if there are likeable characters in the series.

Back on point, I'd say a fair chunk of those that play (J)RPGs and say they play it for the story are..... playing it for the game. I mean, I doubt you'd find it all that interesting if you couldn't grind, couldn't equip items, couldn't fight strategic battles etc.

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I tend to judge video game characters on the merits they have as a video game device. For the most part, VG protagonists are an extension of the player onto the video game world; our disbelief isn't suspended unless we have an avatar representing ourselves. The most basic principles for that are direct input: if you press forward, your character moves forward, or click a button and he/she shoots like you intended. How detached would you feel from the video game world if you couldn't even control your character properly? There are some horrible 90's PC games that could prove that point.

Then there are those that go above and beyond the call of duty to remark your input, or lack thereof. When Alyx mentions that Gordon is a man of few words, or when in Episode One she does that little prank with you and your flashlight; the latter is a better example of when a game asked you to complete an obstacle, and then in some way makes a comment on your participation in said obstacle. Niko Bellic, as I've stated before, has been created with this in mind. Pretty much everything he says about the present and the future has something to do with your restricted input (shoot, kill, drive) and the context of the setting (Liberty City). The standout idea that lingers in my mind is the idea of money and GTA: money has always been intertwined with the design, and Niko pretty much says in every mission that all he's doing the mission for is the money. You got the most wildest supporting cast with all these ulterior motives and zany outbursts, and it's as if Niko sympathizes with the player because all the player can do is observe the world.... and shoot, kill and drive to obtain money. Niko's character is somewhat restricted to the game's design, but he sure as hell doesn't feel like it, which is why I think he's the best character yet.

That's how I tend to judge video game characters anyway. I think we're all instinctively drawn to RPGs for character customization and FPSs for their faceless hero advantage, because those are particular tricks to help you 'get into' the character, so I've tried to rationalize that instinct.

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#50 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]The concept of a 'character', or a 'well rounded character' or 'good character development' is fundamentally tied into those mediums though. The video game didn't re-invent characterisation, it's initial lack of personality was due to technical restraints, not artistic choice. Otherwise what else can we possibly be judging these characters on? If it's the enjoyment we associate with the context we experience them in, it's not really a reflection on the character, is it? The least we can say for these guys is that they don't impede the enjoyment of the wider game.FrozenLiquid

I think the first idea is the key point. Characters are fundamental to other mediums, but not video games. I would argue that lack of personality was not due to technical restraints, because you have those old-school text adventures that could write you a character to death. I simply think characterization is just not a big deal when it comes to games. While I know a lot of people here pride in their awesome characters and awesome stories, a lot of the games I see quoted for these supposed stories and characters are actually pretty decent games in their own right.

If anyone was truly playing games for stories and characters, they'd probably be playing adventure games or something as 'boring' and 'stale' as that genre. Yes, the adventure genre is my favourite genre of all time :)

Really though, characters are an extension of game design. It's the other way around for most other mediums (not brought up in the modern/post-modern age), especially film and television; how many no-name directors come and go from network tv series, it certainly wouldn't matter if there are likeable characters in the series.

Back on point, I'd say a fair chunk of those that play (J)RPGs and say they play it for the story are..... playing it for the game. I mean, I doubt you'd find it all that interesting if you couldn't grind, couldn't equip items, couldn't fight strategic battles etc.

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I tend to judge video game characters on the merits they have as a video game device. For the most part, VG protagonists are an extension of the player onto the video game world; our disbelief isn't suspended unless we have an avatar representing ourselves. The most basic principles for that are direct input: if you press forward, your character moves forward, or click a button and he/she shoots like you intended. How detached would you feel from the video game world if you couldn't even control your character properly? There are some horrible 90's PC games that could prove that point.

Then there are those that go above and beyond the call of duty to remark your input, or lack thereof. When Alyx mentions that Gordon is a man of few words, or when in Episode One she does that little prank with you and your flashlight; the latter is a better example of when a game asked you to complete an obstacle, and then in some way makes a comment on your participation in said obstacle. Niko Bellic, as I've stated before, has been created with this in mind. Pretty much everything he says about the present and the future has something to do with your restricted input (shoot, kill, drive) and the context of the setting (Liberty City). The standout idea that lingers in my mind is the idea of money and GTA: money has always been intertwined with the design, and Niko pretty much says in every mission that all he's doing the mission for is the money. You got the most wildest supporting cast with all these ulterior motives and zany outbursts, and it's as if Niko sympathizes with the player because all the player can do is observe the world.... and shoot, kill and drive to obtain money. Niko's character is somewhat restricted to the game's design, but he sure as hell doesn't feel like it, which is why I think he's the best character yet.

That's how I tend to judge video game characters anyway. I think we're all instinctively drawn to RPGs for character customization and FPSs for their faceless hero advantage, because those are particular tricks to help you 'get into' the character, so I've tried to rationalize that instinct.

I always dig your posts. :P Such a concise and intelligent summary of the issue.