All new 360's have the falcon chip in them

I just used my prp at best buy. If you look at the power box you will see it's wattage has went down to 175w. The standard xbox 360 is 203w. Mine was made just last month. Every single one at best buy had the falcon chip in them. I do not think the standard xbox 360's are being sold anymore. Except for places that have older stockpiles of them.

To check if you have the falcon its simple. Look at the 360 power box and read the wattage. If it's 175w then you have the falcon. The older ones run at 203w and the newer plu's will nto run on the older 360's.

Yup,

Although I'm pretty sure Falcon refers to the CPU chip.

Apparently most of the RRoD problems come from the GPU...which won't be 100% fixed until they release "Jasper" in '08.

Still an improvement though :)

RRoD is only partially due to CPU. MS needs to overhaul the whole box, IMO, to fix the issues.SpruceCaboose

But it involves the element of heat and this reduces it.

I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.Firelore29

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.PS3_3DO

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

It must be, broken 360's are a total lie.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.Udsen

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

It must be, broken 360's are a total lie.

360s don't break everyone knows this.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.PS3_3DO

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

It must be, broken 360's are a total lie.

360s don't break everyone knows this.

Seriously, why would people make up such horrible, horrible lies?! :P

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.Udsen

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

It must be, broken 360's are a total lie.

360s don't break everyone knows this.

Seriously, why would people make up such horrible, horrible lies?! :P

And most of u cows make lies like : 'Im on 3rd 360' , 'my friend 360 just died month ago'
-wii60-

I am on my second 360, unfortunatley.

Doesn't mean it's a bad system.

And I'm not a cow gosh darnit.

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]And most of u cows make lies like : 'Im on 3rd 360' , 'my friend 360 just died month ago'
Udsen

I am on my second 360, unfortunatley.

Doesn't mean it's a bad system.

And I'm not a cow gosh darnit.

Yes, yes it does.

[QUOTE="Udsen"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]And most of u cows make lies like : 'Im on 3rd 360' , 'my friend 360 just died month ago'
Firelore29

I am on my second 360, unfortunatley.

Doesn't mean it's a bad system.

And I'm not a cow gosh darnit.

Yes, yes it does.

Yeah.. I think its a horrible system.. it is just a HORRIBLE system with good games

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.PS3_3DO

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

Yup,

Although I'm pretty sure Falcon refers to the CPU chip.

Apparently most of the RRoD problems come from the GPU...which won't be 100% fixed until they release "Jasper" in '08.

Still an improvement though :)

ss_49

I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.Firelore29

Links?

I just used my prp at best buy. If you look at the power box you will see it's wattage has went down to 175w. The standard xbox 360 is 203w. Mine was made just last month. Every single one at best buy had the falcon chip in them. I do not think the standard xbox 360's are being sold anymore. Except for places that have older stockpiles of them.

To check if you have the falcon its simple. Look at the 360 power box and read the wattage. If it's 175w then you have the falcon. The older ones run at 203w and the newer plu's will nto run on the older 360's.

Nin360

Somebody just recently posted an article about this. The article specifically states that the falcon chip is simply a new microprocessor (cpu) with a new type of heat sink. The GPU (graphics chip) is what causes the RROD and that is still the same. The graphics chip won't be fixed with the new 65nm chipsets until Jasper comes out, which Microsoft says won't happen until August 2008 at the earliest.

In short, all this hype over "falcon" is little more than BS. The new heat sink might potentially reduce the issue of RROD, but consoles still have the same potentially faulty hardware as they always have. They will continue to have potentially faulty hardware for at least another year.

like someone said, this doesn't solve the problem, only reduces it. Overall heat is reduced but the heat localized in the GPU is still a problemGunSmith1_basic

Thanks to RROD ill never buy a 360 again.. I dotn care if they fix it. Because by the time they even fix it all ill be too busy playing better games. An RROD AND a disk read error was enough for me in ONE year. and now it is sold to my friend who later fixed it and is playing burned games on it.. hahaArsenal325

Why not just have them fix it? It is free...

[QUOTE="ss_49"]

Yup,

Although I'm pretty sure Falcon refers to the CPU chip.

Apparently most of the RRoD problems come from the GPU...which won't be 100% fixed until they release "Jasper" in '08.

Still an improvement though :)

DarthKalo

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/10/xbox_360_secrets_after_falcon_comes_jasper.html

It's funny how people keep shooting their mouth off without first checking their stories. I believe that is the definition of prejudice.

[QUOTE="Udsen"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]And most of u cows make lies like : 'Im on 3rd 360' , 'my friend 360 just died month ago'
Firelore29

I am on my second 360, unfortunatley.

Doesn't mean it's a bad system.

And I'm not a cow gosh darnit.

Yes, yes it does.

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.kingfire11

Links?

[QUOTE="DarthKalo"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Yup,

Although I'm pretty sure Falcon refers to the CPU chip.

Apparently most of the RRoD problems come from the GPU...which won't be 100% fixed until they release "Jasper" in '08.

Still an improvement though :)

ZIMdoom

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/10/xbox_360_secrets_after_falcon_comes_jasper.html

It's funny how people keep shooting their mouth off without first checking their stories. I believe that is the definition of prejudice.

360s don't break everyone knows this.

PS3_3DO

:lol:

My second 360 that also has HDMI I am now on seems to run a lot cooler then my first one. There is a hudge differnce in the heat output from the back exhaust between the two. It was built in 9/07 where the first was built in 10/06. So I'm guessing MS has done something to help cool them down. If it fixes it or not may be a different story. One can only hope.

Yup,

Although I'm pretty sure Falcon refers to the CPU chip.

Apparently most of the RRoD problems come from the GPU...which won't be 100% fixed until they release "Jasper" in '08.

Still an improvement though :)

ss_49

[QUOTE="Nin360"]

I just used my prp at best buy. If you look at the power box you will see it's wattage has went down to 175w. The standard xbox 360 is 203w. Mine was made just last month. Every single one at best buy had the falcon chip in them. I do not think the standard xbox 360's are being sold anymore. Except for places that have older stockpiles of them.

To check if you have the falcon its simple. Look at the 360 power box and read the wattage. If it's 175w then you have the falcon. The older ones run at 203w and the newer plu's will nto run on the older 360's.

ZIMdoom

Somebody just recently posted an article about this. The article specifically states that the falcon chip is simply a new microprocessor (cpu) with a new type of heat sink. The GPU (graphics chip) is what causes the RROD and that is still the same. The graphics chip won't be fixed with the new 65nm chipsets until Jasper comes out, which Microsoft says won't happen until August 2008 at the earliest.

In short, all this hype over "falcon" is little more than BS. The new heat sink might potentially reduce the issue of RROD, but consoles still have the same potentially faulty hardware as they always have. They will continue to have potentially faulty hardware for at least another year.

Wrong, the CPU and GPU both were downsized. The cpu was downsized to 65NM and the GPU was downsized to about 80NM. I personally own a 360 with the smaller falcon boards and can tell you that it hardly gets warm. Scroll down the page until you get to the part the shows the changes to the board.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3152

everyone has to admit that the 360 hardware is crap it just has most of the good games. the box itself is just poorly madeBlackfriend8

Yes but M.S. has improved the design greatly and the new chips hardly get warm.

[QUOTE="Blackfriend8"]everyone has to admit that the 360 hardware is crap it just has most of the good games. the box itself is just poorly madeEG101

falcon chip is code name for "won't RROD for an extra month"

what about all those 360 that didn't sell yet that dont have the falcon chip?

an what about all those 360 owners that get there 360 sent in repaired that dont get a falcon chip are they just gonna keep sendin it in?

seriously just cuz they made revision for new 360 dont mean a buyer tommarow will get it or the old 360 owners will get it either

it just is all hype an talk an i dont even think they did this i think they r lyin cuz in order to fix the hardware problems they'll need more then a new chip an a new layout, they would have change everythin since eveyrthin about it is faulty includin the dvd drives/graphic chips an processor

falcon chip is code name for "won't RROD for an extra month"

what about all those 360 that didn't sell yet that dont have the falcon chip?

an what about all those 360 owners that get there 360 sent in repaired that dont get a falcon chip are they just gonna keep sendin it in?

seriously just cuz they made revision for new 360 dont mean a buyer tommarow will get it or the old 360 owners will get it either

it just is all hype an talk an i dont even think they did this i think they r lyin cuz in order to fix the hardware problems they'll need more then a new chip an a new layout, they would have change everythin since eveyrthin about it is faulty includin the dvd drives/graphic chips an processor

ProtossRushX

When I used my best buy prp plan I got this.

Manufacture: 11/07

Has teh falcon chip and the new benq drive which is alot more quiet. Plus the 2 free games. Awesome.

I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.Firelore29

Thanks to RROD ill never buy a 360 again.. I dotn care if they fix it. Because by the time they even fix it all ill be too busy playing better games. An RROD AND a disk read error was enough for me in ONE year. and now it is sold to my friend who later fixed it and is playing burned games on it.. hahaArsenal325

*Looks at post history* Interesting, *looks at avatar* VERY interesting *Looks at PSN+Sig. It kinda looks like you're a Cow liar... Well, just based on your message and everything else about your profile...

peryn>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>falcon

4 cores running cooler>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3 hot cores

45nm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>65nm

sorry lems falcon is already a year out of date, why so slow ms, sony has beat ms to die shrinks dispite coming a year later

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.PS3_3DO

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

can you explain why intel and amd can make 4 cores run cooler than the 360's 3? or why intel has got more cpu power in a laptop than ms can fit in a 360? 360's still run hot face it

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]I've already seen photos of 360's with the falcon chip and 3 rings of death.Udsen

All lies. It's Sony smear campaign at work.

It must be, broken 360's are a total lie.

360s don't break everyone knows this.

Seriously, why would people make up such horrible, horrible lies?! :P

[QUOTE="Firelore29"] trying to hate on 360HellRazer360