All Sony had to do in the last 9 months was release M.A.G to equal MS's output.

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#1 Booo-Urns
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If all Sony did was release M.A.G at this point then the line ups in 2010 would be

360:

1AAE

PS3:

1AAE

Good thing sony aren't as lazy as MS.

Discuss.

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#2 locopatho
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In terms of exclusives, yes. There's many 360 great games this year that aren't on PS3 though.
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#3 oldkingallant
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In terms of exclusives, yes. There's many 360 great games this year that aren't on PS3 though.locopatho
Yeah many. Many as in Mass Effect 2. Which is now being ported to the 360. Seriously that's literally pretty much it. Although God of War III still needed to be released too... TC is apparently forgetting Limbo, a AAAE.
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#4 SolidTy
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Yeah, there is a difference in 1st Party output, that's for sure.

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#5 Booo-Urns
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]In terms of exclusives, yes. There's many 360 great games this year that aren't on PS3 though.oldkingallant
Yeah many. Many as in Mass Effect 2. Which is now being ported to the 360. Seriously that's literally pretty much it. Although God of War III still needed to be released too... TC is apparently forgetting Limbo, a AAAE.

Yea because Arcade Games = Retail Games.
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#6 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]In terms of exclusives, yes. There's many 360 great games this year that aren't on PS3 though.oldkingallant
Yeah many. Many as in Mass Effect 2. Which is now being ported to the 360. Seriously that's literally pretty much it. Although God of War III still needed to be released too... TC is apparently forgetting Limbo, a AAAE.

Well, Tropico 3, Metro 2033 and Splinter Cell spring to mind. Also that Darkstar One game looks very good :shock:
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#7 Ninja-Hippo
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Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)
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Sony and MS aren't lazy. They work harder than most of your lazy asses so you can get more games to play...and all you do is complain. Wtf mate.

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#9 FlamesOfGrey
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Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)Ninja-Hippo
Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).
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#10 delta3074
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If all Sony did was release M.A.G at this point then the line ups in 2010 would be

360:

1AAE

PS3:

1AAE

Good thing sony aren't as lazy as MS.

Discuss.

Booo-Urns
MS have been Far from lazy this year, they have just focused all there energy this year in the wrong direction IMO, they are putting far too many eggs in the kinect basket, saying that though, probably the greatest xbox 360 exclusive of the generation is releasing in a couple of weeks, so it's not all bad,lol
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#11 _Cadbury_
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Sony and MS aren't lazy. They work harder than most of your lazy asses so you can get more games to play...and all you do is complain. Wtf mate.

Shad0ki11
Not really. MS really doesn't give a lot back to the 360 considering how much money they must be making. All that must go through their heads is "...Timed exclusives ! Timed DLC ! yeah! xbox is where it's at."
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#12 D-RS
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WHy everybody forgot Deathsmiles? its AAE too !
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#13 D-RS
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This year the 360 was IMO better , Alan wake , Deathsmiles , Amazing Xbla arcade , Splinter cell , Bayonetta , And now Halo reach and fable 3 !
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)FlamesOfGrey
Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).

They do count, just against other Arcade games.

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:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)shutdown_202

Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).

They do count, just against other Arcade games.

He's listing them along side retail games which is why I said that.
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WHy everybody forgot Deathsmiles? its AAE too !D-RS
There aren't very many Schumps around outside of Japan to my knowledge and it's by Aksys so, it hasn't had much press.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)FlamesOfGrey
Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).

In a thread about the output of games, i see no reason why games which are being outputted 'don't count'.
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#19 D-RS
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[QUOTE="D-RS"]WHy everybody forgot Deathsmiles? its AAE too !FlamesOfGrey
There aren't very many Schumps around outside of Japan to my knowledge and it's by Aksys so, it hasn't had much press.

Its a good game , people should try it .
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#20 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)Ninja-Hippo
Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).

In a thread about the output of games, i see no reason why games which are being outputted 'don't count'.

OP was using retail games for his argument.
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:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

WilliamRLBaker
I think MAG is probably the best shooter that has came out this year to be honest(even though there's not much competition so far). Pretty solid shooter what are the issues you speak of?
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#22 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="D-RS"]WHy everybody forgot Deathsmiles? its AAE too !D-RS
There aren't very many Schumps around outside of Japan to my knowledge and it's by Aksys so, it hasn't had much press.

Its a good game , people should try it .

I pre-ordered and got it day one just because of how rare it'll become as time passes. I'm not really into Schumps.
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#23 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="YuriSH"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

I think MAG is probably the best shooter that has came out this year to be honest(even though there's not much competition so far). Pretty solid shooter what are the issues you speak of?

I've played MAG for alittle bit and the problem isn't the game itself but the community. There is no sense of teamwork nor many people with mics to attempt teamwork in my experience. The game itself would be great if the community was better.
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#24 YuriSH
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I've played MAG for alittle bit and the problem isn't the game itself but the community. There is no sense of teamwork nor many people with mics to attempt teamwork in my experience. The game itself would be great if the community was better.

I agree with that....but really man I've game I can think of where people actually have a sense of teamwork is Team Fortress 2, but yeah I can see that being a real big issue.
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This year the 360 was IMO better , Alan wake , Deathsmiles , Amazing Xbla arcade , Splinter cell , Bayonetta , And now Halo reach and fable 3 !D-RS

So a AAE retail title, a AAE arcade title, a blanket choice of all of XBLA, a multiplat, another multiplat, and two games that haven't released yet are a better year? Compare that to the PS3's lineup so far and for the rest of this year as well as the Wii's. MS's onhand offerings thus far are lackluster compared to the competition.

I'm sure everyone's happy though. I mean, there IS a new Halo game coming out after all. Not trying to be a jerk. Just looking at this like anyone else is going to. ;)

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#27 locopatho
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[QUOTE="D-RS"]This year the 360 was IMO better , Alan wake , Deathsmiles , Amazing Xbla arcade , Splinter cell , Bayonetta , And now Halo reach and fable 3 !Ryan_Som

So a AAE retail title, a AAE arcade title, a blanket choice of all of XBLA, a multiplat, another multiplat, and two games that haven't released yet are a better year? Compare that to the PS3's lineup so far and for the rest of this year as well as the Wii's. MS's onhand offerings thus far are lackluster compared to the competition.

I'm sure everyone's happy though. I mean, there IS a new Halo game coming out after all. Not trying to be a jerk. Just looking at this like anyone else is going to. ;)

PS3 is doing better, not the WIi tho.
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#28 D-RS
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[QUOTE="D-RS"]This year the 360 was IMO better , Alan wake , Deathsmiles , Amazing Xbla arcade , Splinter cell , Bayonetta , And now Halo reach and fable 3 !Ryan_Som

So a AAE retail title, a AAE arcade title, a blanket choice of all of XBLA, a multiplat, another multiplat, and two games that haven't released yet are a better year? Compare that to the PS3's lineup so far and for the rest of this year as well as the Wii's. MS's onhand offerings thus far are lackluster compared to the competition.

I'm sure everyone's happy though. I mean, there IS a new Halo game coming out after all. Not trying to be a jerk. Just looking at this like anyone else is going to. ;)

Deathsmiles is retail ! Ok they are multiplats in System wars they don't count , when websites compare the 360 and ps3 this year they will mention eveything . Also this year is for the wii Mario Galaxy 2 was kind of enough for it to win.
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i love how reviews run some of you people. i love AAA titles but yet i dont like uncharted 2 or gta 4!!! oh gosh i must be trolling. (not really)point being noone cares.

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#30 shinrabanshou
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PS3 is doing better, not the WIi tho.locopatho
Of the three consoles the Wii is winning this year.

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#31 adamlovesu
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[QUOTE="YuriSH"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

I think MAG is probably the best shooter that has came out this year to be honest(even though there's not much competition so far). Pretty solid shooter what are the issues you speak of?

mag is horrible compared to bfbc2....... hence the difference in player count on both games.
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#32 adamlovesu
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]PS3 is doing better, not the WIi tho.shinrabanshou

Of the three consoles the Wii is winning this year.

i disagree.... smg2 goldeneye metroid kirby are great games im sure but if you look at all the stuff the wii didnt pickup this year its clearly out of this race. multiplats included.... their still not on wii.
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#33 YuriSH
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mag is horrible compared to bfbc2....... hence the difference in player count on both games.adamlovesu
Then by that logic CoDMW2 is surely much better than BFBC2 hence the difference in player count.......I play both and I prefer MAG because of some of the crazy unbalanced things in BC2

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#34 Ryan_Som
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i love how reviews run some of you people. i love AAA titles but yet i dont like uncharted 2 or gta 4!!! oh gosh i must be trolling. (not really)point being noone cares.

adamlovesu

I try not to live and die by reviews, but that's just how System Wars works. Review scores are the closest thing to facts that we have to argue over. :P

I've enjoyed many a game that have scored 7.5 or less. I'm playing Shank right now and I also picked up Scott Pilgrim. Both of those games netted a 6.5 on this site. Do I agree with the scores? No, but I do understand some of the points they made. I'm less about the scores and more about the pros and cons they bring up in the end.

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#37 JonSnow777
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If all Sony did was release M.A.G at this point then the line ups in 2010 would be

360:

1AAE

PS3:

1AAE

Good thing sony aren't as lazy as MS.

Discuss.

Booo-Urns

YEah, you're right. Microsoft (who is now a living entity, I guess) was about to put out another game and then he was like "You know what guys? I just don't feel like it. How about we order some pizza and watch The Big Bang Theory instead?"

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#38 G-O-M-J
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Sony makes alot of money selling games, ms does too but not to the same extent, they are more interested in selling hardware. This whole idea of sony making loads of games to please their fanbase is bs lol they are interested in selling you something, just like ms.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

YuriSH
I think MAG is probably the best shooter that has came out this year to be honest(even though there's not much competition so far). Pretty solid shooter what are the issues you speak of?

there were loads of areas on the maps where people would deform through the terrain and get stuck specially if they spawned via and APC, they fixed only the areas at the begining of the match where you spawned the other areas took 5 months to be fixed. Balace issues between the factions, Spawn balance, the one turret/building thing its been a while so I don't recall the name but the balance issues on that with SVER receiving clear view of the entire enemy spawn yet raven would have all these walls blocking view, Issues with not being able to repair things if they were blown up a 2nd time...ect It took them months to fix them after retail release, even though the majority of problems were bug reported in the first beta. I know it had dedicated servers but LAG issues even, MAGS net code wasn't tight enough leading a target because of lag became mandatory. Stuff like that problems. I geniunely liked MAG when I played the beta it was a beta I accepted its faults, But when I went out and handed out hard earned cash for it with the majority of problems never being fixed, I sold it within a month. I relied on patch release details and friends that still played the game (I had about 15 I made over the beta time, 9 of which sold the game within the first 2 months like me) to tell me what they eventually fixed, An online only game stuff like that isn't acceptable the majority of problems should have been fixed with consistent and fast patches. I mean look they are releaseing new content and its been way to long, TF2 got updates and content releases very very quickly, because its a multiplayer only game.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)FlamesOfGrey
Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).

They count. Just not compared to full retail games. You can't deny they are good games though whatever they are released on.
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:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

WilliamRLBaker

Okay now I know your talking garbage..I was in the MAG beta as well..And I brought the Re-tail ver.I can surely tell you they fixed a lot from the beta when I got the Re-tail ver.

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#43 Booo-Urns
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Yea well M.A.G may be a bad game but it's AA just like Alan Wake, MS's only decent exclusive this year.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

Promised_Trini

Okay now I know your talking garbage..I was in the MAG beta as well..And I brought the Re-tail ver.I can surely tell you they fixed a lot from the beta when I got the Re-tail ver.

keep telling your self that. SVER balance issues with both other factions, Raven spawn balance issues on nearly every map, SVER over powered placement of Turret buildings, Falling into Terrain when spawning at APCs, Repairs of items destroyed twice before...ect all unfixed till months after release, and all were reported during the beta within the first month of it.

but as I said keep telling your self that, But all so wonder why User numbers on MAG are going down every day, its not cause they are keeping it up to date constantly, and releaseing new content constantly. Its an online multiplayer game and they haven't supported it very well at all. Its problems are why it got an 8.0 here and why it has 76% on metacritic.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft's output also includes Alan Wake, monday night combat, Limbo and Halo Reach :)SaltyMeatballs
Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).

They count. Just not compared to full retail games. You can't deny they are good games though whatever they are released on.

I never denied any games quality the OP was talkng about retail games.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Arcade Games don't really count here (Not my rule just the way it goes).FlamesOfGrey
They count. Just not compared to full retail games. You can't deny they are good games though whatever they are released on.

I never denied any games quality the OP was talkng about retail games.

I know, I was talking about people in general :P (replace "you" with "one")
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#47 Master_ShakeXXX
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Sony really does go above the call of duty (no pun intended). That's why I respect them so much.

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[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

:roll: you actually consider MAG a good game? much like most ps3 games its user base drops daily, It will soon be another ghost town, sadly it could have been great, I was there in 2009 during the beta, I was there into 2010 on the beta, I purchased the retail version and was mystified how they hadn't fixed even 20% of the problems me and others reported via the bug reporting tools. It took them near 5-6 months too fix even half of the problems.

WilliamRLBaker

Okay now I know your talking garbage..I was in the MAG beta as well..And I brought the Re-tail ver.I can surely tell you they fixed a lot from the beta when I got the Re-tail ver.

keep telling your self that. SVER balance issues with both other factions, Raven spawn balance issues on nearly every map, SVER over powered placement of Turret buildings, Falling into Terrain when spawning at APCs, Repairs of items destroyed twice before...ect all unfixed till months after release, and all were reported during the beta within the first month of it.

but as I said keep telling your self that, But all so wonder why User numbers on MAG are going down every day, its not cause they are keeping it up to date constantly, and releaseing new content constantly. Its an online multiplayer game and they haven't supported it very well at all. Its problems are why it got an 8.0 here and why it has 76% on metacritic.

Wtf are you ranting about how do you know the User numbers are going down sounds to me like you don't even play the game to know I watch my brother play the game.Hell even when I play the game it easy for me to join a game.Another I don't keep telling myself anything cause I play the game and from what I see everything is fine.