all this forza vs GT stuff is pointless

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#1 arbitor365
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for years now people have been debating whether or not Forza or gran turismo are the superior racing game series. honestly, I say **** the both of them. here are the great racing games this gen.

who is with me on this?

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#2 jedikevin2
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Nope...

RACE On/ GTR2/ GTR Evolutions / STCC the Game 2 .....

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#3 Inconsistancy
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Arcade racing sucks, Forza>GT (I don't own an xbox...)
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#4 bleehum
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Sim racing games =/= arcade racing games.
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#5 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Sim racing games =/= arcade racing games.bleehum
I think that's exactly his point (that arcade > sims).
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#6 nameless12345
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GT is the better series obviously. And PC sims are too boring (except maybe Live For Speed).

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#7 epicstory
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I agree. Forza is better and reviewers agree.

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#8 Ironbash
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GT is the better series obviously. And PC sims are too boring (except maybe Live For Speed).

nameless12345

GT went downhill since GT3, Forza's only gone upwards and that trend looks to continue into Forza 4

GT = AA series

Forza = AAA series

'nuff said

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#9 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Substituting one pointless thing for another pointless thing is pretty pointless. Just play and enjoy whatever you prefer.
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#10 agpickle
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Split Second should be replaced with Blur IMO. Anyway, just because you prefer arcade style racing games doesn't mean that sim ones don't matter/aren't importiant. Some people , including myself, prefer sims over arcade. (shocking, I know.:roll: ) And that doesn't mean I don't like arcade style games either. I grew up playing the original Burnout game so I will always have a spot for some good old over the top racing fun.

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#11 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

GT is the better series obviously. And PC sims are too boring (except maybe Live For Speed).

Ironbash

GT went downhill since GT3, Forza's only gone upwards and that trend looks to continue into Forza 4

GT = AA series

Forza = AAA series

'nuff said

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

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#12 mariokart64fan
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it is pointless cause mariokart wii

gt pro series wii

pgr 4

grid

race pro

nascar 2011

dirt 2

and in some cases f1 ce has been fun to play! theres others but man the debate of which game ?which console is also pointless , all 3 have awsome games and thats all that matters !

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#13 epicstory
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[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

GT is the better series obviously. And PC sims are too boring (except maybe Live For Speed).

nameless12345

GT went downhill since GT3, Forza's only gone upwards and that trend looks to continue into Forza 4

GT = AA series

Forza = AAA series

'nuff said

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

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#14 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

GT went downhill since GT3, Forza's only gone upwards and that trend looks to continue into Forza 4

GT = AA series

Forza = AAA series

'nuff said

epicstory

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

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Oh, that reminds me... DiRT 3 is coming! Can't wait to play that one! :D
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#16 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

nameless12345

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

so wii sports > all ?
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#17 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

Richymisiak

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

so wii sports > all ?

Compared to Kinect Sports and Move Sports (or whatever) it seems it's more trustworthy yes :P

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#18 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million.nameless12345

Call of Duty has sold how many units? Is Call of Duty the greatest franchise out there?

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]Call of Duty has sold how many units? Is Call of Duty the greatest franchise out there?Stevo_the_gamer
Better than Portal, at least.
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#20 arbitor365
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Split Second should be replaced with Blur IMO. Anyway, just because you prefer arcade style racing games doesn't mean that sim ones don't matter/aren't importiant. Some people , including myself, prefer sims over arcade. (shocking, I know.:roll: ) And that doesn't mean I don't like arcade style games either. I grew up playing the original Burnout game so I will always have a spot for some good old over the top racing fun.

agpickle

oh yeah. I forgot about blur. I will add it as well

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#21 mitu123
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TC, I agree 100%, both series are all hype as well.

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#22 Inconsistancy
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So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

nameless12345

Sales =/= quality, GT is woefully inconsistent in graphics, and a horrible game, essentially a grindfest with some pretty menus.

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#23 foxhound_fox
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Other than Dirt, those are arcade racing games. It would be like saying Timesplitters is better than ArmA II... despite them having nothing in common besides perspective. And since when does it not matter? Quality of games isn't worth discussing? I'm glad you have an opinion, but don't go telling others why they shouldn't express theirs.
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#24 PS2_ROCKS
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No I want a CHALLENGE when I play a racing game. Otherwise it's BORING, like all those games you posted.
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#25 Inconsistancy
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No I want a CHALLENGE when I play a racing game. Otherwise it's BORING, like all those games you posted.PS2_ROCKS
Guess GT's off the list, it's ai provides ~ 0 challenge :D
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#26 sethman410
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Then we shall say that Killzone vs Halo is pointless since there's Cod and a load of other quality shooters as well.
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#27 epicstory
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

nameless12345

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

So Xbox360>PS3

Gears of War>Uncharted

Halo>Every game on PS3

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#28 locopatho
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

nameless12345

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

This European thinks Forza is better.
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#29 broken_bass_bin
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Forza does some things better, GT does other things better.

Both are great. If you can enjoy one, you can enjoy the other.

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#30 Mr_Cumberdale
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Arcade racing sucks, Forza>GT (I don't own an xbox...)Inconsistancy
I enjoy arcade racing, but sim racing is fun too. I own both PS and XBox and GT > Forza.
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#31 mitu123
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No I want a CHALLENGE when I play a racing game. Otherwise it's BORING, like all those games you posted.PS2_ROCKS
Going over 100MPH(arcade) is less challenging than barely doing 50 MPH(sim)? F-Zero GX is harder than any Forza and GT game BTW.

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#32 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Arcade racing sucks, Forza>GT (I don't own an xbox...)Mr_Cumberdale
I enjoy arcade racing, but sim racing is fun too. I own both PS and XBox and GT > Forza.

I own an xbox 360 and windows 7 was my idea ...

sorry i thought we were sharing

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#33 racing1750
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

nameless12345

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

Funny since I'm from the UK and currently prefer the Forza series.
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#34 Ironbash
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]]Call of Duty has sold how many units? Is Call of Duty the greatest franchise out there?IronBass
Better than Portal, at least.

Next on tonights show we compare wii sports to uncharted

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#35 markko84
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Both great games but GT5 got the standard/premium issue, that for me its a HUGE letdown... in fact, I consider this the most stupid idea ever conceived in gaming. "So fellow racing players, we'll give you 200 great looking cars, and 800 average/bad looking/conversions because we wasted too much time on unnecesary features like NASCAR and couldn't made all the cockpits and models"
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#36 ChiefMahwoo
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All of these X vs Y game topics are pointless. Every game has it's pros and cons. Play any game you enjoy based on your preferences and not someone else's. Just saying my 2 cents on this topic.I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
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#37 heretrix
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Split Second was ok...But I really hated that the game swiped control out of your hands to crash way too often(it sometimes felt like someone grabbed the wheel from you and forced you to crash) and the multiplayer while fun was a bit anemic. Cool concept though.

Blur was aces. I had soo much fun with that game. It was one of the few games where you still had a great time even if you lost.It was always giving you something.

I don't like Motorstorm at all. It looks good but the cars are way too floaty. I hate racers where your car feels like it's made of paper and weighs even less.

Dirt 2 was pretty good and looks freaking phenom.

I was really anticipating Hot Pursuit. Criterion is on the short list of my favorite devs, but I found myself really disliking it.

Mario Kart Wii. I don't own a Wii anymore but I might pick another one up since the price is dropping. Even so I have no interest.

Pure. Meh.

I'm on the fence between arcades and sims I love both GT5 and Forza but I'm not against having some fun..I liked Burnout Paradise(The coop in that game was phenomenal)and Blur more than all of these games though.

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#38 Gibsonsg527
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Icould care less about comparing them. I just enjoy what I enjoy.

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#39 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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What's the point when we can enjoy these games instead of arguing it. Though I really was dissapointed with GT5

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#40 ScarfaceNY
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[QUOTE="bleehum"]Sim racing games =/= arcade racing games.IronBass
I think that's exactly his point (that arcade > sims).

Then why only target Forza and GT?
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#41 the_mitch28
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Blur is a great game, it saddens me that Activision didn't give it enough publicity.

However Forza is still my favourite racing series.

GT series used to be my favourite till they released GT5, such a sloppy game for something that has had more time and money than it deserves.

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#42 PAL360
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Why would other racing games make Forza and GT pointless?

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Next on tonights show we compare wii sports to unchartedIronbash
WiiSports!
Then why only target Forza and GT?ScarfaceNY
Because they're compared a lot in SW since both are flagship exclusives (hence the "vs" in the title).
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#44 CADMAN_3
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Forza does some things better, GT does other things better.

Both are great. If you can enjoy one, you can enjoy the other.

broken_bass_bin

I agree 100% with you on this. Thats why I have both and enjoy both games. You're really short changing yourself if you can't enjoy both games.

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#45 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Too bad Forza is so sterile and dull then :P

nameless12345

And yet Forza is the higher scoring series. Forza>GT.

So what. GT series sold over 63 million and moved consoles while Forza hasn't sold even 10 million. Only US guys think Forza is better while the Japanese and Europeans all know what's the real deal :P

Er.. No I'm not from America and Forza>>>GT Easily. It's not even a contest