Allstar's is really starting to look more and more like Smash Bros.

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#1 Second_Hokage
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Fat princess plays like Peach (Floats in air, attacks using butt/body)

Radec plays like Samus (Long ranged gun and missiles)

Sweet tooth plays like Captain Falcon (Fast, and has a fiery punch move... falcon punch?)

Heihachi plays like Fox (Melee only)

Big daddy is slow and powerful... Ganon?

Kratos is like Link (sword, bow, item attacks)

Parappa is like Kirby (Small, fast attacks)

Sly tho is the most unique.

I don't know, maybe i've been playing Smash Bros. too much and just noticed these things... or are they ripping off?

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#2 Promised_Trini
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Okay and...

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#3 joel_c17
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It's always looked like ssb
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#5 free_milk
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super smash bros is a good game and the more all stars looks like it the better all stars will be.sony domination continues:cool:

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#6 free_milk
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super smash bros is a good game and the more all stars looks like it the better all stars will be.sony domination continues:cool:

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Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)
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super smash bros is a good game and the more all stars looks like it the better all stars will be.sony domination continues:cool:

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You've proven you have no idea what makes Smash a good game.
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)

Honestly what were you expecting from this game? Everyone was pretty much asking for Sony Smash Bros game, and they got one. At least Superbot is trying to do something different with it.
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#11 Second_Hokage
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[QUOTE="game_masta14"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)

Honestly what were you expecting from this game? Everyone was pretty much asking for Sony Smash Bros game, and they got one. At least Superbot is trying to do something different with it.

Your sig came from one of my threads :D
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#12 reach3
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Surprised? Sony has no original ideas ever. Wii ripoff Move PS3 using hard drive ripoff 360 etc...
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#13 wraigth
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Every company takes ideas from other companies, I'm actually surprised Nintendo has had this small segment of the market to itself for so long. Sony ripped off the Wii mote, Microsoft ripped off the Eyetoy and Nintendo is blatantly ripping off the 360 controller with their Pro Controller, it is how the industry progresses and it will always be this way.
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#14 LastRambo341
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Every company takes ideas from other companies, I'm actually surprised Nintendo has had this small segment of the market to itself for so long. Sony ripped off the Wii mote, Microsoft ripped off the Eyetoy and Nintendo is blatantly ripping off the 360 controller with their Pro Controller, it is how the industry progresses and it will always be this way. wraigth
How would a shape be a rip-off? The Kinect is so advanced from the EyeToy that you cannot even compare it
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This thread can't be serious....
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#16 DJ-Lafleur
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This thread can't be serious...._Cadbury_

Considering the TC you're probably right.

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#17 danish-death
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No matter what they did someone would always find some obscure thing to compare and complain about. With the combo gameplay and strategic use of supers I'd say that there is enough to set it apart from SSB while still reminding us of where they got their inspiration.
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#18 wraigth
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[QUOTE="wraigth"]Every company takes ideas from other companies, I'm actually surprised Nintendo has had this small segment of the market to itself for so long. Sony ripped off the Wii mote, Microsoft ripped off the Eyetoy and Nintendo is blatantly ripping off the 360 controller with their Pro Controller, it is how the industry progresses and it will always be this way. LastRambo341
How would a shape be a rip-off? The Kinect is so advanced from the EyeToy that you cannot even compare it

Nintendo could have easily used a Gamecube style controller, as it was a damn good design, but they went with a replica of the 360 controller. You prance around like an idiot in front of an Eyetoy, and you prance around like an idiot in front of a Kinect. Kinect being more advanced doesn't mean it isn't just as crap as what came before it. Kinect has it's uses outside of gaming, but in a gaming space it is just a next gen Eyetoy.
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#19 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="wraigth"]Every company takes ideas from other companies, I'm actually surprised Nintendo has had this small segment of the market to itself for so long. Sony ripped off the Wii mote, Microsoft ripped off the Eyetoy and Nintendo is blatantly ripping off the 360 controller with their Pro Controller, it is how the industry progresses and it will always be this way. wraigth
How would a shape be a rip-off? The Kinect is so advanced from the EyeToy that you cannot even compare it

Nintendo could have easily used a Gamecube style controller, as it was a damn good design, but they went with a replica of the 360 controller. You prance around like an idiot in front of an Eyetoy, and you prance around like an idiot in front of a Kinect. Kinect being more advanced doesn't mean it isn't just as crap as what came before it. Kinect has it's uses outside of gaming, but in a gaming space it is just a next gen Eyetoy.

- They're doing what people want. its an improved version of the CCP - You know nothing about Kinect obviously
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#20 wraigth
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="wraigth"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] How would a shape be a rip-off? The Kinect is so advanced from the EyeToy that you cannot even compare it

Nintendo could have easily used a Gamecube style controller, as it was a damn good design, but they went with a replica of the 360 controller. You prance around like an idiot in front of an Eyetoy, and you prance around like an idiot in front of a Kinect. Kinect being more advanced doesn't mean it isn't just as crap as what came before it. Kinect has it's uses outside of gaming, but in a gaming space it is just a next gen Eyetoy.

- They're doing what people want. its an improved version of the CCP - You know nothing about Kinect obviously

What has Kinect done in gaming that can't be done better in other ways? The only thing Kinect can do well is dancing games, everything else is poorly done and could be done better with other control systems. The point is, Kinect is a camera used for gaming, Eyetoy was a camera used for gaming, regardless of how far advanced Kinect is it's rather obvious where MS got the idea from. People like you can attempt to deny this all you like, but the fact is it's just another camera being poorly used for gaming.
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#21 casharmy
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It's always looked like ssbjoel_c17

not really it used to look much MUCH MUCH worse

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#22 Chris_Williams
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so what? how many first person shooters look like each other, how man hack and slash look like each other, who cares, the fact that they added a combo system "something that smash doesn't have" tells me they added their own flavor to the game.

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#23 casharmy
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Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)princeofshapeir

This particular game was always supposed to be a rip-off.

I guess in your mind all the other games ever created by Sony never existed, that just makes you alot more uninformed than the rest of us.

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[QUOTE="wraigth"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="wraigth"] Nintendo could have easily used a Gamecube style controller, as it was a damn good design, but they went with a replica of the 360 controller. You prance around like an idiot in front of an Eyetoy, and you prance around like an idiot in front of a Kinect. Kinect being more advanced doesn't mean it isn't just as crap as what came before it. Kinect has it's uses outside of gaming, but in a gaming space it is just a next gen Eyetoy.

- They're doing what people want. its an improved version of the CCP - You know nothing about Kinect obviously

What has Kinect done in gaming that can't be done better in other ways? The only thing Kinect can do well is dancing games, everything else is poorly done and could be done better with other control systems. The point is, Kinect is a camera used for gaming, Eyetoy was a camera used for gaming, regardless of how far advanced Kinect is it's rather obvious where MS got the idea from. People like you can attempt to deny this all you like, but the fact is it's just another camera being poorly used for gaming.

Tell me, would people care more about Rise of Nightmare or Gunstringer if they were gamepad-based?
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[QUOTE="reach3"]Surprised? Sony has no original ideas ever. Wii ripoff Move PS3 using hard drive ripoff 360 etc...

i thought computers used harddrives long before a xbox existed :D
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#27 danish-death
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No matter what they did someone would always find some obscure thing to compare and complain about. With the combo gameplay and strategic use of supers I'd say that there is enough to set it apart from SSB while still reminding us of where they got their inspiration.
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#28 wraigth
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="wraigth"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] - They're doing what people want. its an improved version of the CCP - You know nothing about Kinect obviously

What has Kinect done in gaming that can't be done better in other ways? The only thing Kinect can do well is dancing games, everything else is poorly done and could be done better with other control systems. The point is, Kinect is a camera used for gaming, Eyetoy was a camera used for gaming, regardless of how far advanced Kinect is it's rather obvious where MS got the idea from. People like you can attempt to deny this all you like, but the fact is it's just another camera being poorly used for gaming.

Tell me, would people care more about Rise of Nightmare or Gunstringer if they were gamepad-based?

Not likely as the only thing they have going for them is the motion controls, but doesn't mean they wouldn't play better on a pad, or even a Wii mote (though that may be stretching it a little :P).
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#29 Cheleman
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The way I see it, we need more games like ssb as opposed to the oh so generic: triangle, triangle, square, down, right, right, circle...
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Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)princeofshapeir

I'm not really a Sony fan, but this statement is completely unfair. By your logic, does that mean every 2-D fighter is a ripoff of Street Fighter and every 3-D fighter is a ripoff of Virtua Fighter? Its unfair to praise Namco, Tecmo, SNK, and others for using the SF and VF formula and refining it while demonizing Sony for "ripping off" Nintendo.

From what I've seen and read, Allstars seems to have a different style of gameplay from Smash Brothers. There are no percents, special attacks are generally required to KO opponents, and the stages are more enclosed.

So, its not like they are ripping off Smash Bros in every aspect and simply plugging in Sony Characters. It looks like they are taking steps to make Allstars a unique game.

Which means its no different from the approach SNK, Namco, and Temco have taken over they years. I don't hear people call Tekken a VF ripoff or King of Fighters a SF ripoff just because they share elements with those games. People seem to enjoy the things those games bring to the table without resorting to the "its a ripoff!" argument.

Why can't Allstars be given the same courtesy?

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#31 inb4uall
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What is he talking about with each vid released it looks less and less like SSB....

It has planned combos, where as SSB is make your own

It has a different kill system

It doesn't have smashes

It has more third party support then SSB

It doesn't constantly show you the score

It has less ephasis on items

It looks simliar, but thas a given SINCE THEY"RE IN THE SAME GENRE.

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#32 ShadowMoses900
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I see no correlation between those characters and any of the Smash Bros characters.

I'm actually peferring the Allstar lineup so far because all the characters are unique from each other, in Smash Bros a lot of characters were just clones of each other like C. Faclon/Ganon, Roy/Marth, Mario/Dr Mario, Ness/Lucas ect...

Funny how Allstars haters b!tch about copying Smash Bros (which Allstars did) but Smash Bros did the same thing within their same game, and they give it a free pass. Being a hypocrite is fun huh?

I don't care either way, I love Smash Bros so I'm probably going to love this as well. I'm starting to come around to the KO system too, it made more sense after watching a dev interview where they explained it in more detail.

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Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)princeofshapeir

Oh you must be jelly big time !!! Sony can't innovate ?!? Seriously ! It's a miracle the wiiU will use BR discs rahter than cartridges !

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Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)princeofshapeir

Oh you must be jelly big time !!! Sony can't innovate ?!? Seriously ! It's a miracle the wiiU will use BR discs rahter than cartridges !

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#35 AmazonTreeBoa
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I lost all interest in this game the moment they showed it at E3. What a complete joke and waste of money. They could have made something cool, but instead this is what we get. :lol: at anybody that waste their money on this game.
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Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)princeofshapeir
you're quickly becoming one of the more annoying and seemingly ignorant posters on SW.

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#37 Sali217
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[QUOTE="wraigth"]Every company takes ideas from other companies, I'm actually surprised Nintendo has had this small segment of the market to itself for so long. Sony ripped off the Wii mote, Microsoft ripped off the Eyetoy and Nintendo is blatantly ripping off the 360 controller with their Pro Controller, it is how the industry progresses and it will always be this way. LastRambo341
How would a shape be a rip-off? The Kinect is so advanced from the EyeToy that you cannot even compare it

The same could be said about the move, I have a both a wii and a move and the wii mote can come no where near touching the accuracy of the move. Now if only the move had more than a small handful of games for it :(
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#38 SRTtoZ
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Fix your title. It should say "Allstar's is really starting to look more and more like an improved and HD version of Smash Bros."

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#39 Snakemaster9
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It's starting to look less and less like it..

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#40 ShadowMoses900
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Seriously all companies copy off of each other, they take ideas and improve upon them. Look at Saints Row, a clone of GTA, but you know what? I didn't care, it was still fun, and in the end I had more fun with Saints Row than I ever did GTA4. Saints Row took the ideas of GTA and expanded on them, thus improving the genre.

Allstars might end up being the same way, if you like Smash Bros your probably going to like Allstars as well. Only people I think that are hating on it are people who don't own a PS3.

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#41 Sali217
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I don't understand why people are offended by it being a rip-off, I thought it was supposed to be a rip-off only using Sony characters rather than Nintendo characters. That's the whole point.
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#42 OneInchMan99
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Its a game for Sony fans.I'm a fan of many of the characters so am really looking forward to this,and I dont even play fighting games usually.
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#43 ispeakfact
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Looking even better. An actual, functional, true fighter combo system. Speaking of, any news on when they will rlease the next two fighters this weekend?
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#44 ispeakfact
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Looking even better. An actual, functional, true fighter combo system. Speaking of, any news on when they will rlease the next two fighters this weekend?[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)

Jelly :cool: Still waiting to see ur ps3/name pic....or no ps3 for u.
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#45 TwoFace-BS
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1. It always looked like Smash 2. It would be hard to make a game similar to Smash and have a roster of characters with completely different uses like you describe 3.Does it really matter if its like smash,isnt that what people wanted before even the rumours about it started?
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#46 Ghost120x
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You just now noticed this... Where have you been? There were threads all over SW discussing this game and its similarities.
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#47 themajormayor
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Aww that sucks considering how bad Smash Bros is
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#48 princeofshapeir
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I see no correlation between those characters and any of the Smash Bros characters.

I'm actually peferring the Allstar lineup so far because all the characters are unique from each other, in Smash Bros a lot of characters were just clones of each other like C. Faclon/Ganon, Roy/Marth, Mario/Dr Mario, Ness/Lucas ect...

Funny how Allstars haters b!tch about copying Smash Bros (which Allstars did) but Smash Bros did the same thing within their same game, and they give it a free pass. Being a hypocrite is fun huh?

I don't care either way, I love Smash Bros so I'm probably going to love this as well. I'm starting to come around to the KO system too, it made more sense after watching a dev interview where they explained it in more detail.

ShadowMoses900
A "clone" is only a character with a similar moveset. All of those "clones" you listed still play differently from each other and have different weights. That's why they're ranked on different spots on tier lists. Also, this:
Funny how Allstars haters b!tch about copying Smash Bros (which Allstars did) but Smash Bros did the same thing within their same game, and they give it a free pass. ShadowMoses900
Makes absolutely no sense. You're trying to equate having clones in one game and another game ripping off playstyles of characters in that game? Hooooooooly crap are you an idiot.
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#49 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)

Sony innovated WHOLE INDUSTRIES not just video gaming industry. They invented things noone did before and people using these technologies , including Nintendo. So what? This means Nintendo is a copier?!! What logic is that little sheeps, what logic is that...
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#50 princeofshapeir
Member since 2006 • 16652 Posts

Looking even better. An actual, functional, true fighter combo system. Speaking of, any news on when they will rlease the next two fighters this weekend?[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Once again Sony proves they can't innovate and resort to ripping off their competitors. Let's all hear it for Sony! (inb4 the only rebuttal Cows can make: jelly)ispeakfact
Jelly :cool: Still waiting to see ur ps3/name pic....or no ps3 for u.

I posted one a while ago. I am legitimately surprised you have not seen it.

So here it is again.

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Now stop replying to me with "Jelly" pics, because I'm not "Jelly" of anything. If I wanted I could rent this piece of garbage the day it came out, but I know it will be a bad game. There is no fanboyism here.