Alot of you are afraid to admit it, but I am not.

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#1 nmaharg
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I am a graphics whore.  I love graphics, I see them as a huge part of the game.  I spend $500 upgrading my PC just to play oblivion maxed out.  Im going to spend another $300 on a 8800 gts for crysis.

We all enjoy games with great gameplay, but i'll admit no matter how good the gameplay if the graphics suck it would be very hard for me to enjoy that game. 

IMO Graphics = Gameplay
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#2 Mahije
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I am a graphics whore.  I love graphics, I see them as a huge part of the game.  I spend $500 upgrading my PC just to play oblivion maxed out.  Im going to spend another $300 on a 8800 gts for crysis.

We all enjoy games with great gameplay, but i'll admit no matter how good the gameplay if the graphics suck it would be very hard for me to enjoy that game. 

IMO Graphics = Gameplay
nmaharg
i agree i think graphic is the real deal
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#3 cheezisgoooood
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For simple, fun games graphics don't matter, but for deeper more seroius games graphics become serious business tbh.
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#4 Teuf_
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I'm not afraid to admit that I love great graphics.  What's wrong with appreciating a game's visual beauty?  Some people just like to perpetuate the notion that if you care at all about graphics, it makes you less of a gamer or something like that.
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#5 cakeorrdeath
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I like great  graphics as much as anyone but it is never a decision maker in whether or not I buy a game.
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#6 mis3ry
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As long as the graphics are good enough to set the mood then that's all you need, which is why I prefer Metroid Prime over any "next-gen" game.
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Yeah, and special effects > story, in movies.

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I am a graphics whore.  I love graphics, I see them as a huge part of the game.  I spend $500 upgrading my PC just to play oblivion maxed out.  Im going to spend another $300 on a 8800 gts for crysis.

We all enjoy games with great gameplay, but i'll admit no matter how good the gameplay if the graphics suck it would be very hard for me to enjoy that game. 

IMO Graphics = Gameplay
nmaharg

I am not a graphics whore. Sure, I did upgrade my PC's video card last year from an FX 5500 to a 6800 XT, but I'm done with that and I'm content. I have a ton of games from 1998 - 2005 that i haven't even played yet!

As for consoles, I have about 25 games for my GC, and no consoles for this generation. While I may get a 360 at some point, I most likely will get a Wii instead, depending on how the heavies turn out later this year.

Gameplay > Graphics

However, I will say this, Graphics are nearly as important as gameplay when it comes to games that rely heavily on Atmosphere.

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#9 BeanTownBrown86
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i love graphics too but i duno if i love it enough to spend $800 in a year to play two games.....
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#10 Teh_Stevz
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I think people are slightly more hypocritical with such a topic. I thought graphics didn't matter... Then WindWaker came.
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#11 Ironblindfold
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You know what, so am I, thats why I have a PC. But I'm also content with the Wii, cause I choose to accept the fact that, yes, it will one day have good graphics. Many of you choose to believe otherwise based on opinions of posters here, but I'm afraid that you shouldnt always believe what you read, especially in SW. 
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#12 Teuf_
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As long as the graphics are good enough to set the mood then that's all you need, which is why I prefer Metroid Prime over any "next-gen" game.mis3ry


Did you think graphics were good enough before you owned a GameCube? 
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#13 VinnoT
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I love graphics just as much as the next person. But if a game with uber graphics and terrible gameplay (farcry) comes along, I dont rate it at all. The graphics and neat little touches can keep you amused for an hour or so....but after that its all about the gameplay, without any gameplay, its just a tech demo.
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#14 peaceful_anger
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Nothing is wrong about liking games with great graphics, but it's sad when somebody can't play a game or decides to pass up on it just because the graphics don't equal Mass Effect, Gears of War, or MGS4. So what if Super Paper Mario and Mario Galaxy don't have graphics on par with the other games I mentioned above. They still look good, and what matters the most is that they will most likely play great.
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#15 Teuf_
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I love graphics just as much as the next person. But if a game with uber graphics and terrible gameplay (farcry) comes along, I dont rate it at all. The graphics and neat little touches can keep you amused for an hour or so....but after that its all about the gameplay, without any gameplay, its just a tech demo.VinnoT


FarCry had great gameplay, why do you think it got a 9.1 here? 
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#16 Random__Guy
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Nice graphics are good, but all these games (especially for pc) are all graphics and crap game,
The graphics are so good now that nothing short of total realism would really wow me enough to play it just to look at the graphics.


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#17 Teuf_
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Nice graphics are good, but all these games (especially for pc) are all graphics and crap game

Random__Guy


Please, name some of these games for us.  :|
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#18 mmogoon
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Yeah man i need good graphics
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#19 Teh_Stevz
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[QUOTE="Random__Guy"]Nice graphics are good, but all these games (especially for pc) are all graphics and crap game

Teufelhuhn


Please, name some of these games for us. :|

Big Rigs. /thread.
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#20 Random__Guy
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heres a couple.
Maelstrom
War Front: Turning Point
Vivisector Beast Within
il find some more brb
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#21 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Random__Guy"]Nice graphics are good, but all these games (especially for pc) are all graphics and crap game

Teh_Stevz


Please, name some of these games for us. :|

Big Rigs. /thread.



:cry: :cry: :cry:

*Head explodes*
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#22 Random__Guy
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More crap
D.I.R.T. Origin of the Species
     Star Trek Legacy
     Dark Messiah Of Might And Magic
     Jaws Unleashed
     Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe
     Scarface
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#23 Timesplitter14
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no no and no! The ONLY SINGLE thing that counts is gameplay. If bad graphics make a bad game for you, then the gameplay will be bad. If you don't care about graphics, the gameplay will be good. See? Gameplay is ''how fun the game is to play'' so if you don't like bad graphics, the game will have bad gameplay for you.
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#24 Sir_Graham
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I'm not as much of a graphics whore as you are but they are important to me... on consoles and PC. With handhelds I don't care so much. So many typos, i have a headache :(
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#25 Teuf_
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Jaws Unleashed
Scarface
Random__Guy


:lol:

Those games don't even have good graphics! 
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#26 the-very-best
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Yeah, great graphics are awesome. I mean, Gears would not be as good without its fantastic visuals.

However, I'm not obsessed with good graphics. My 2nd most antipated game of this year is a 2D RPG, Pokemon.
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#27 Teh_Stevz
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no no and no! The ONLY SINGLE thing that counts is gameplay. If bad graphics make a bad game for you, then the gameplay will be bad. If you don't care about graphics, the gameplay will be good. See? Gameplay is ''how fun the game is to play'' so if you don't like bad graphics, the game will have bad gameplay for you.Timesplitter14
I'd usually agree with such a statement. But pondering over WindWaker made me realise that graphical style can effect gameplay heavily. But I also understand that no amount of graphical savvyness can save the travesty that is known as Big Rigs.
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#28 majadamus
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Graphics aren't everything. I'm having a lot of fun with the Nintendo DS. The old school style of these games have brought back pleasant memories. Although it is rare that you will find a game with great graphics that will suck. Only two games come to my mind at the moment that had good graphics and sucked: Final Fantasy VIII and Shenmue. :(
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#29 Shinobishyguy
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Yeah, great graphics are awesome. I mean, Gears would not be as good without its fantastic visuals.

However, I'm not obsessed with good graphics. My 2nd most antipated game of this year is a 2D RPG, Pokemon.
the-very-best
actually pokemon D/P will use 2d graphics for the characters and 3d graphics for the towns, over worlds, and some of the attack effects.
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[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]no no and no! The ONLY SINGLE thing that counts is gameplay. If bad graphics make a bad game for you, then the gameplay will be bad. If you don't care about graphics, the gameplay will be good. See? Gameplay is ''how fun the game is to play'' so if you don't like bad graphics, the game will have bad gameplay for you.Teh_Stevz
I'd usually agree with such a statement. But pondering over WindWaker made me realise that graphical style can effect gameplay heavily. But I also understand that no amount of graphical savvyness can save the travesty that is known as Big Rigs.

(about the Zelda part)

That's my point. I had that same feeling with Okami. Graphics can affect gameplay, so only gameplay counts in the end.

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#31 Random__Guy
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crap
     Reservoir Dogs
     Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure
     25 To Life
     Need For Speed Most Wanted
     Dynasty Warriors 4 Hyper
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#32 TrueReligion_
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I'm a sucker for great graphics too. Nobody would have enjoyed Gears of War as much if it weren't for the nice graphics. It's the honest truth, but people here are afraid to admit it for some reason.
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#33 TrueReligion_
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Yeah, great graphics are awesome. I mean, Gears would not be as good without its fantastic visuals.

However, I'm not obsessed with good graphics. My 2nd most antipated game of this year is a 2D RPG, Pokemon.
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...damn, you beat me to it...:(
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#34 Shinobishyguy
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I think graphics are really important.........but not as important as gameplay /generic responce but seriously..I think gameplay edges out graphics by a nose hair
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#35 phoenixan_akrau
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I dunno.. I still buy old games just to play them because I think they might be fun or I know they're fun.
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#36 Teh_Stevz
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(about the Zelda part)

That's my point. I had that same feeling with Okami. Graphics can affect gameplay, so only gameplay counts in the end.

Timesplitter14
:|... :? Then graphics has some significance to how good a game turns out?
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I like great graphics as much as anyone but it is never a decision maker in whether or not I buy a game.cakeorrdeath
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#38 AzelKosMos
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I love graphics, but without gameplay they are hollow and don't make a game fun.

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#39 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

(about the Zelda part)

That's my point. I had that same feeling with Okami. Graphics can affect gameplay, so only gameplay counts in the end.

Teh_Stevz
:|... :? Then graphics has some significance to how good a game turns out?

well yeah...... Physics, AI, number of things going on in one screen.
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#40 Timesplitter14
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In fact, everything (including graphx) is PART of gameplay. Graphics, Sound, Presentation, Story... all these things' purpose it to make the gameplay better. That's why I think only gameplay counts. The only exception is replayability, which is ''how long the gameplay will last''
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#41 Timesplitter14
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[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

(about the Zelda part)

That's my point. I had that same feeling with Okami. Graphics can affect gameplay, so only gameplay counts in the end.

Teh_Stevz

:|... :? Then graphics has some significance to how good a game turns out?

not always. Graphx are just a PART of gameplay 

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#42 Teh_Stevz
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[QUOTE="Teh_Stevz"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

(about the Zelda part)

That's my point. I had that same feeling with Okami. Graphics can affect gameplay, so only gameplay counts in the end.

Timesplitter14

:|... :? Then graphics has some significance to how good a game turns out?

not always. Graphx are just a PART of gameplay

I agree. Now I see your spin on things.
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]I am a graphics whore. I love graphics, I see them as a huge part of the game. I spend $500 upgrading my PC just to play oblivion maxed out. Im going to spend another $300 on a 8800 gts for crysis.

We all enjoy games with great gameplay, but i'll admit no matter how good the gameplay if the graphics suck it would be very hard for me to enjoy that game.

IMO Graphics = Gameplay
Mahije
i agree i think graphic is the real deal



I think it works both ways, if the gameplay sucks it doesn't matter how good the graphics are as well.
Personally I wouldn't mind GTA keeping it's graphics forever if they just make the world in the game more and more detailed with what you can do with every new generation of the game. That's one example for me where's it more about the gameplay and I think the Wii is proving that as well. Sure the Wii will look bad in a couple of years but that's an extreme case of Nintendo choosing gameplay 100%
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#44 Blackbond
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I am a graphics whore. I love graphics, I see them as a huge part of the game. I spend $500 upgrading my PC just to play oblivion maxed out. Im going to spend another $300 on a 8800 gts for crysis.

We all enjoy games with great gameplay, but i'll admit no matter how good the gameplay if the graphics suck it would be very hard for me to enjoy that game.

IMO Graphics = Gameplay
nmaharg


Wow that sucks. There are tons of great games that don't look good. While I do enjoy games with good graphics saying graphics = gameplay is like saying the new Star Wars movies are amazing.
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#45 Random__Guy
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I like that idea for gta, forget improving graphics, and focus on details and improving gameplay.
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#46 ArisShadows
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I like great  graphics as much as anyone but it is never a decision maker in whether or not I buy a game.cakeorrdeath
Same. I will though in time upgrade my system's specs so I am able to play Oblivions, not because of graphics a game can produce but the gameplay and overall enjoyment of that game.
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#47 Tamarind_Face
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Hmm please dont generalize, I dont own a Wii and im not a sheep. So graphics do matter to me.