AMD announces New generation HD7970, to be 70 to 80 times faster than Consoles.

It's kinda weird how much technology has improved and still peasants say graphics are not important and developement needs to slow down lol

XBOX 360 release in 2005 - Ati 1900 Series

2006 - Ati 2900 Series

2007 - Ati 3800 Series

2008 - Ati 4800 Series ( beginning to push some serious flops )

2009- Ati 5800 Series

2010- Ati 6900 Series

2011- Ati 7900 Series

State of XBOX 360 2011- Stil ol gimped 1900 Radeon

Some slides

Technology in the Inside of an XBOX...

So what's the source for the 70 - 80 times bit?

So what's the source for the 70 - 80 times bit?

kraken2109

Common logic?

and how much does it cost?

Once again people are pulling stuff out of places where the light don't shine...

and how much does it cost?

da_illest101

It prolly will set you back for around 250$ to 300$.

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So what's the source for the 70 - 80 times bit?

Kankaseni1

Common logic?

And no games to take advantage of those high end cards other than some good ol multiplats next year.

Unfortunatly there are not many games to take advantage of it :(

Industry needs new consoles soon.

Unfortunatly there are not many games to take advantage of it :(

Wee need new consoles soon.

PAL360

Unfortunatly there are not many games to take advantage of it :(

Industry needs new consoles soon.

PAL360

If you play in high resolutions you will need it:D

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Unfortunatly there are not many games to take advantage of it :(

Industry needs new consoles soon.

aroxx_ab

If you play in high resolutions you will need it:D

I'd sell my first born for that video card.

I dont understand why you would compare a gfx card from 2011 to an xbox 360? the xbox hasnt seen any hardware upgrades so yea it would be the same as the launch version.

also looking at the cost It's as much as a 360 on it's own? to me this thread is full of marketing speel. it's also comparing apples to oranges which makes no sense at all :?

So when does this arrive? It is probably the most solid proof as to what the next ps4/xbox will be like. Though I'd say those console will likely be more advanced.

Which means next gen consoles in 2014 will be 700-800 times faster than current systems

Excellent.

The demand for more powerful GPUs is alive and well in the PC marketplace with games like Shogun 2, Crysis 2, and BF3 pushing graphics pretty damn hardcore.

Nice to see AMD and Nvidia not giving up on putting out more powerful chips.

If MS and Sony wait till 2013 they could have something like this except with less energy draw in their next system.

*cough*cough* Who the F cares if the HD7970 is 70-80 times faster than consoles. We want a comparison to Nvidia cards, not consoles. Is this what ATI/AMD are resorting to now? Comparing with the lowest possible hardware? One that has been around for 5 years.

*cough*cough* Who the F cares if the HD7970 is 70-80 times faster than consoles. We want a comparison to Nvidia cards, not consoles. Is this what ATI/AMD are resorting to now? Comparing with the lowest possible hardware? One that has been around for 5 years.

jhcho2

It will be faster than a GTX580 and don't count on Nvidia on having a short term answer to this monster. And im the one comparing it to dating console hardware, not the GPU manufacturer.

I dont understand why you would compare a gfx card from 2011 to an xbox 360? the xbox hasnt seen any hardware upgrades so yea it would be the same as the launch version.

also looking at the cost It's as much as a 360 on it's own? to me this thread is full of marketing speel. it's also comparing apples to oranges which makes no sense at all :?

jwn25

Pretty much, I think they're just insecure or compensating for something. Don't know what other benefit this comparison has.

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So erm... why havn't I seen games looking "900%" better or "70 to 80 times" better?

Or is it just the hardware gives you those special fuzzy feelings. ;)

Ohhh yeah look at that benchmark ohhh baby. Time for some over clocking, yeah you like that, you like that. :P

Other than the 70-80 times more powerful than consoles nonsense.. does it really matter? Yes we understand consoles are old hardware, who cares? They new ones are coming out son.

Which means next gen consoles in 2014 will be 700-800 times faster than current systems

loosingENDS

*cough*cough* Who the F cares if the HD7970 is 70-80 times faster than consoles. We want a comparison to Nvidia cards, not consoles. Is this what ATI/AMD are resorting to now? Comparing with the lowest possible hardware? One that has been around for 5 years.

jhcho2

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

*cough*cough* Who the F cares if the HD7970 is 70-80 times faster than consoles. We want a comparison to Nvidia cards, not consoles. Is this what ATI/AMD are resorting to now? Comparing with the lowest possible hardware? One that has been around for 5 years.

ferret-gamer

according to my calculations it will...

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="jhcho2"]

*cough*cough* Who the F cares if the HD7970 is 70-80 times faster than consoles. We want a comparison to Nvidia cards, not consoles. Is this what ATI/AMD are resorting to now? Comparing with the lowest possible hardware? One that has been around for 5 years.

Kankaseni1

according to my calculations it will...

How did you calculate this?

[QUOTE="jwn25"]

I dont understand why you would compare a gfx card from 2011 to an xbox 360? the xbox hasnt seen any hardware upgrades so yea it would be the same as the launch version.

also looking at the cost It's as much as a 360 on it's own? to me this thread is full of marketing speel. it's also comparing apples to oranges which makes no sense at all :?

HalcyonScarlet

Pretty much, I think they're just insecure or compensating for something. Don't know what other benefit this comparison has.

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So erm... why havn't I seen games looking "900%" better or "70 to 80 times" better?

Or is it just the hardware gives you those special fuzzy feelings. ;)

Ohhh yeah look at that benchmark ohhh baby. Time for some over clocking, yeah you like that, you like that. :P

best bit is for a long time the only people that really benefit from this powerful gear is people doing 3d modelling and generallly CAD since they will be able to push more on screen at a single workstation and lower render times.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="jwn25"]

I dont understand why you would compare a gfx card from 2011 to an xbox 360? the xbox hasnt seen any hardware upgrades so yea it would be the same as the launch version.

also looking at the cost It's as much as a 360 on it's own? to me this thread is full of marketing speel. it's also comparing apples to oranges which makes no sense at all :?

razgriz_101

Pretty much, I think they're just insecure or compensating for something. Don't know what other benefit this comparison has.

-

So erm... why havn't I seen games looking "900%" better or "70 to 80 times" better?

Or is it just the hardware gives you those special fuzzy feelings. ;)

Ohhh yeah look at that benchmark ohhh baby. Time for some over clocking, yeah you like that, you like that. :P

best bit is for a long time the only people that really benefit from this powerful gear is people doing 3d modelling and generallly CAD since they will be able to push more on screen at a single workstation and lower render times.

If you posessed any common knowlegde about gaming GPU's you would know they are useless for 3d modelling and cad. They got seperate cards and hardware for that stuff like the FireGL and QuadroFX series.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Unfortunatly there are not many games to take advantage of it :(

Industry needs new consoles soon.

Mozelleple112

If you play in high resolutions you will need it:D

If you mean any game "vanilla", then yeah.

Otherwise, not really. If you go heavy on mods and .ini tweaks (uGridsToLoad=9 and other stuff like that) in Skyrim, @2560x1600 you can dip under 30fps. Go have a look at SkyrimNexus forums if you don't believe me. There are many people with HD 6970, GTX 570 or 580 (even a happy few with those ludicrous HD6990 and GTX 590) who manage to tweak their game to the point that they get crappy framerates.

My HD6950 plays vanilla @1920x1080, ultra settings, with 50/60 FPS eveywhere. I've installed dozens of high-res texture mods, along with gameplay and interface ones, and I've done some ini testing. Pushing some settings very far in skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini, I managed to get the game down to 15 fps in some places, and average 30/35 fps outside (dungeons:indoors are always around 60). The game looked amazing though.

Now I found my ideal settings, and enjoy a comfortable 40 FPS most of the time (30 at worst) outdoors, and the game looks pretty good. Vanilla looks like crap compared to what I got.

And this is just Skyrim... Not the worst system hog out there...

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Pretty much, I think they're just insecure or compensating for something. Don't know what other benefit this comparison has.

-

So erm... why havn't I seen games looking "900%" better or "70 to 80 times" better?

Or is it just the hardware gives you those special fuzzy feelings. ;)

Ohhh yeah look at that benchmark ohhh baby. Time for some over clocking, yeah you like that, you like that. :P

Kankaseni1

best bit is for a long time the only people that really benefit from this powerful gear is people doing 3d modelling and generallly CAD since they will be able to push more on screen at a single workstation and lower render times.

If you posessed any common knowlegde about gaming GPU's you would know they are useless for 3d modelling and cad. They got seperate cards and hardware for that stuff like the FireGL and QuadroFX series.

Sure you have the actual dedicated cards but on a budget a straight up GPU does fine aslong as theres a decent amount of RAM and a processor to back it up so theres little bottlenecks.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="jwn25"]

I dont understand why you would compare a gfx card from 2011 to an xbox 360? the xbox hasnt seen any hardware upgrades so yea it would be the same as the launch version.

also looking at the cost It's as much as a 360 on it's own? to me this thread is full of marketing speel. it's also comparing apples to oranges which makes no sense at all :?

razgriz_101

Pretty much, I think they're just insecure or compensating for something. Don't know what other benefit this comparison has.

-

So erm... why havn't I seen games looking "900%" better or "70 to 80 times" better?

Or is it just the hardware gives you those special fuzzy feelings. ;)

Ohhh yeah look at that benchmark ohhh baby. Time for some over clocking, yeah you like that, you like that. :P

best bit is for a long time the only people that really benefit from this powerful gear is people doing 3d modelling and generallly CAD since they will be able to push more on screen at a single workstation and lower render times.

True, it's nice to see AMD come out with some new architecture though, if that is what this is.

*cough*cough* Who the F cares if the HD7970 is 70-80 times faster than consoles. We want a comparison to Nvidia cards, not consoles. Is this what ATI/AMD are resorting to now? Comparing with the lowest possible hardware? One that has been around for 5 years.

jhcho2

[QUOTE="Kankaseni1"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

best bit is for a long time the only people that really benefit from this powerful gear is people doing 3d modelling and generallly CAD since they will be able to push more on screen at a single workstation and lower render times.

razgriz_101

If you posessed any common knowlegde about gaming GPU's you would know they are useless for 3d modelling and cad. They got seperate cards and hardware for that stuff like the FireGL and QuadroFX series.

Sure you have the actual dedicated cards but on a budget a straight up GPU does fine aslong as theres a decent amount of RAM and a processor to back it up so theres little bottlenecks.

Yeah I know someone who does that too. Think he did something on the Unreal 3 Engine.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Pretty much, I think they're just insecure or compensating for something. Don't know what other benefit this comparison has.

-

So erm... why havn't I seen games looking "900%" better or "70 to 80 times" better?

Or is it just the hardware gives you those special fuzzy feelings. ;)

Ohhh yeah look at that benchmark ohhh baby. Time for some over clocking, yeah you like that, you like that. :P

Kankaseni1

best bit is for a long time the only people that really benefit from this powerful gear is people doing 3d modelling and generallly CAD since they will be able to push more on screen at a single workstation and lower render times.

If you posessed any common knowlegde about gaming GPU's you would know they are useless for 3d modelling and cad. They got seperate cards and hardware for that stuff like the FireGL and QuadroFX series.

Nice to see there is a nice, pricey new card that no games will ever take full advantage of until the next generation of consoles.

And uhm really? 70 to 80 times faster? Nice to see people on SW can still pull random facts out of their ass.

[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

and how much does it cost?

Kankaseni1

It prolly will set you back for around 250$ to 300$.

That's it? A GTX 580 is still $400, and the HD 7970 will be more powerful?

And lol @ butthurt console gamers "who cares Nextbox will be even more powerful!" :lol:

As if a $300-$400 console could ever be on par with the current PC hardware. Doesn't matter if it comes out next year or 2013.

The best you guys will probably get is an equivalent of the Radeon HD 5770.

Don't really know why some of you guys think Sony and MS will be selling $1000 consoles for $300-$400 to compete with PC's.

Nice to see there is a nice, pricey new card that no games will ever take full advantage of until the next generation of consoles.

And uhm really? 70 to 80 times faster? Nice to see people on SW can still pull random facts out of their ass.

SPYDER0416

lol at TC making up junk.

Where are these 'calculations' of yours?

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Nice to see there is a nice, pricey new card that no games will ever take full advantage of until the next generation of consoles.

And uhm really? 70 to 80 times faster? Nice to see people on SW can still pull random facts out of their ass.

DeX2010

Be honest, do you really think games are going to take full advantage of such a powerful card this soon? Sure its more powerful, thus games will run smoother (such as Battlefield 3), but yeah, even if it really was 70 to 80 times more powerful, developers aren't going to be using every bit of power, especially in games they want to keep well optimized for other cards and on consoles this gen.

So I think you might not understand game development bud.

AMD is just troing again...

How can the HD7970 will be 70 to 80 times faster than Consoles when the GTX580(or similar GPU) are around 10 times faster than Consoles.

AMD is just troing again...

How can the HD7970 will be 70 to 80 times faster than Consoles when the GTX580(or similar GPU) are around 10 times faster than Consoles.

MK-Professor

No, TC is trolling. AMD isn't comparing this card to consoles, TC is.