Analysis: PS3 is selling more games (O.O) more than 360 with smaller userbase

I believe the attach rates are higher on the 360 so how is the PS3 selling more games with a lower attach rate?Blackbond

Theres your problem

i believe in a lot of things but it doesn't necessarily make it true

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Yep its quite odd how the ps3 is selling more games then its user base odd indeed...can we say sony's padding the numbers like the do in elections?DarkyC

Yes, Sony's so evil that they can alter the financial reports of other companies and make then think they sold more games than they actually did. The publishers are so dumb that instead of seing they're stock, shiping or receipts they rely on Sony, that has nothing to do with that, to tell them what they sold.:roll:

Also, Sony has all the unicorns locked in a cage, that's why you won't be getting one from Santa this year.

Finally, one more SW user sees the light. Sony is very evil. :O

Also, I put a Pegasus on my wish list, so I'm safe.:P

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Yep its quite odd how the ps3 is selling more games then its user base odd indeed...can we say sony's padding the numbers like the do in elections?DarkyC

Yes, Sony's so evil that they can alter the financial reports of other companies and make then think they sold more games than they actually did. The publishers are so dumb that instead of seing they're stock, shiping or receipts they rely on Sony, that has nothing to do with that, to tell them what they sold.:roll:

Also, Sony has all the unicorns locked in a cage, that's why you won't be getting one from Santa this year.

I couldnt help but lol at this

I believe the attach rates are higher on the 360 so how is the PS3 selling more games with a lower attach rate?Blackbond

Actually, the general atach rate is bigger on the 360 because it's been out a year longer than PS3/Wii. In many games (GTAIV/DMC4/BP) the atach rate of those game (games sold in the platform/units of that platform sold) is bigger on the PS3.

why are even giving the time of day to a blog? :?st1ka

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS238451+29-Jul-2008+BW20080729

[QUOTE="ParisSun"]

Yet, every monthly chart shows the 360 version of games in the top 10 sellers and PS3 versions are nowhere to be seen. I suspect these numbers to be very dubious considering the source.

WillieBeamish

Half of their reference links point back to their own blog site. The numbers are completely bogus.. Nice try though.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=202826

[QUOTE="st1ka"]why are even giving the time of day to a blog? :?micky4889

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS238451+29-Jul-2008+BW20080729

great, want to find sources for all the other nonsense in the blog?

this is hilarious.

you people need some perspective - the OP claim and topic title is totally misleading. people also fail to acknowledge that each of these developers had additional exclusive content on the PS3 --- OMGZ, PS3 EXCLUSIFS NO SELL WELL ON 360???

my goodness, this just underscores the misconceptions that we find all through SW, lol.

[QUOTE="micky4889"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]why are even giving the time of day to a blog? :?3picuri3

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS238451+29-Jul-2008+BW20080729

great, want to find sources for all the other nonsense in the blog?

I see your google is broken :roll:

http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/gallery_files/site/270/1042/1827.pdf?PHPSESSID=a7e7dd6437825b39444ac12d9e61f3ee

Are these "numbers" driving off of NPD?

[QUOTE="st1ka"]why are even giving the time of day to a blog? :?micky4889

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS238451+29-Jul-2008+BW20080729

from the link you gave me:

                        Q1      Q2      Q3      Q4      Q1     YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
 Xbox 360                   47     218     196     128      81     72%

you were saying ;) ? 

But doesnt 360 sell more software total?

in that case......PS3s progress is irrelevant.

Link

well discuss,but its quite wierd tho Ratchet_Fan8

Thats because 360 gamer only play Halo 3 and Gears of War 1.

[QUOTE="micky4889"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]why are even giving the time of day to a blog? :?st1ka

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS238451+29-Jul-2008+BW20080729

from the link you gave me:

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q1 YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
Xbox 360                        47    218       96     128      81     72%

you were saying ;) ? 

it is referring to a certain time span

edit :cant get them to line up right lol but look at fy08 on your chart

ps3= 139

360=81

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="micky4889"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]why are even giving the time of day to a blog? :?micky4889

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS238451+29-Jul-2008+BW20080729

from the link you gave me:

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q1 YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
Xbox 360 47 218 196 128      81     72%

you were saying ;) ? 

it is referring to a certain time span

it is referring to five quarters isn't that enough :|

how about you prove me wong then, rather then just give me a link use it's information like i did ;)

if anything you just proved that this blog is not trustworthy

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

PBSnipes

We in SW are simple folk. We don't like to consider the surrounding circumstances from a logical point of view. We like to take our articles at face value and with no questioning to the numbers! So if you mind....

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

Blue-Sky

We in SW are simple folk. We don't like to consider the surrounding circumstances from a logical point of view. We like to take our articles at face value and with no questioning to the numbers! So if you mind....

EA's numbers are wrong, only in one quarter did the PS3 outsell the 360 in every other quarter the 360 outsold it

It's hard to know what to believe, all of these kinds of articles are full of spin.

For example, how do you explain this?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20713

Personally I couldn't care less. I don't care about sales.

RuprechtMonkey

Here's your answer:

"Gamasutra obtained the following up-to-date statistics on the lifetime tie ratio of the major next-gen consoles in the U.S., up to and including September 2008:"

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

st1ka

We in SW are simple folk. We don't like to consider the surrounding circumstances from a logical point of view. We like to take our articles at face value and with no questioning to the numbers! So if you mind....

EA's numbers are wrong, only in one quarter did the PS3 outsell the 360 in every other quarter the 360 outsold it

What a difference a year makes. This time last year, sales of PS3 games accounted for only $13 million of EA's total net revenue. But this time this year? PS3 games account for $139 million in sales. Which is a 969% increase, and is miles ahead of 360 sales, which "only" made the company $81 million. Don't bother asking us how this happened, we have no idea. As for the other systems, the PC was the second-biggest earner at $86 million (perhaps contributing to EA Sport's about-face), with PS2 sales just behind the 360 at $79 million. If you're after the information path less trodden, click through for the full breakdown, which includes stuff like DS and mobile sales

http://kotaku.com/5030788/ps3-now-eas-single-biggest-bread+winner

There goes the "But PS3 owners don't buy games" myth.sam280992

no it doesn't.

my lord. all of these publishers had PS3 exclusives... so cows are ranting and raving about exclusive titles that sell better on the PS3 than the 360.

this thread. IS. PRICELESS.

lmao.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

micky4889

We in SW are simple folk. We don't like to consider the surrounding circumstances from a logical point of view. We like to take our articles at face value and with no questioning to the numbers! So if you mind....

EA's numbers are wrong, only in one quarter did the PS3 outsell the 360 in every other quarter the 360 outsold it

What a difference a year makes. This time last year, sales of PS3 games accounted for only $13 million of EA's total net revenue. But this time this year? PS3 games account for $139 million in sales. Which is a 969% increase, and is miles ahead of 360 sales, which "only" made the company $81 million. Don't bother asking us how this happened, we have no idea. As for the other systems, the PC was the second-biggest earner at $86 million (perhaps contributing to EA Sport's about-face), with PS2 sales just behind the 360 at $79 million. If you're after the information path less trodden, click through for the full breakdown, which includes stuff like DS and mobile sales

http://kotaku.com/5030788/ps3-now-eas-single-biggest-bread+winner

so now you just jumped to another source instead of countering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

so now you just jumped to another source instead of countering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

st1ka

So i guess Kotaku is lying then :roll:

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

PBSnipes

This guy knows what he's talking about.

so now you just jumped to another source instead of coutering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

st1ka

his source is also from July... again. this thread is priceless. this is why we don't play sales in SW - because so few people put any thought in to it past looking at the percentages.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

so now you just jumped to another source instead of countering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

micky4889

So i guess Kotaku is lying then :roll:

So i guess you're not thinking about the bigger picture then. read what PBSnipes is writing, he seems to be the only one in here with a grasp of what this means.....

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

so now you just jumped to another source instead of countering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

micky4889

So i guess Kotaku is lying then :roll:

:lol: can you even read? kotaku said exactly the same i said in my previous post, the difference it that what kotaku said only applied to one quarter

if we use EA's financial report (the one you so graciously proviced) you will see that during this year the 360 outsold the PS3 ;)

seriously though, why did you give me a link with EA's balance if you don't know the first thing about accountancy?

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

so now you just jumped to another source instead of countering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

micky4889

So i guess Kotaku is lying then :roll:

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

so now you just jumped to another source instead of coutering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

3picuri3

his source is also from July... again. this thread is priceless. this is why we don't play sales in SW - because so few people put any thought in to it past looking at the percentages.

the problem is people post balance sheets withouht the slightest knowledge in accountacy

lucky for me i'm taking a college degree in accountancy so i for one can actually read and understand EA's statement

The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.dream431ca

actually no it isn't if anything this blog was proven incorrect and\or misleading

The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.dream431ca

The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.dream431ca

no, no it isn't. please take the time to read and comprehend what others with knowledge of accounting and sales are saying, lol.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

so now you just jumped to another source instead of countering my information based on your own source :lol:

and what's more you just proved once again what i said, the 360 outsold the PS3 in every quarter except one, if you had read my post previous to the one you quoted you would have noticed that ;)

st1ka

So i guess Kotaku is lying then :roll:

:lol: can you even read? kotaku said exactly the same i said in my previous post, the difference it that what kotaku said only applied to one quarter

if we use EA's financial report (the one you so graciously proviced) you will see that during this year the 360 outsold the PS3 ;)

seriously though, why did you give me a link with EA's balance if you don't know the first thing about accountancy?

Its was in the Kotaku link i provided i though i would link you directly rather then give you the link to kotaku

but then again i would believe kotaku over you

What a difference a year makes. This time last year, sales of PS3 games accounted for only $13 million of EA's total net revenue. But this time this year? PS3 games account for $139 million in sales. Which is a 969% increase, and is milesahead of 360 sales, which "only" made the company $81 million. Don't bother asking us how this happened, we have no idea. As for the other systems, the PC was the second-biggest earner at $86 million (perhaps contributing to EA Sport's about-face), with PS2 sales just behind the 360 at $79 million. If you're after the information path less trodden, click through for the full breakdown, which includes stuff like DS and mobile sales

and no im pretty sure there talking about year

LOL,

Looks at all these brain-washed misinformed Cows

really thinking the PS3 sells more software then the 360.

:D

Its was in the Kotaku link i provided i though i would link you directly rather then give you the link to kotaku

but then again i would believe kotaku over you

What a difference a year makes. This time last year, sales of PS3 games accounted for only $13 million of EA's total net revenue. But this time this year? PS3 games account for $139 million in sales. Which is a 969% increase, and is milesahead of 360 sales, which "only" made the company $81 million. Don't bother asking us how this happened, we have no idea. As for the other systems, the PC was the second-biggest earner at $86 million (perhaps contributing to EA Sport's about-face), with PS2 sales just behind the 360 at $79 million. If you're after the information path less trodden, click through for the full breakdown, which includes stuff like DS and mobile sales

and no im pretty sure there talking about year

micky4889

from EA's balance sheet:

                        Q1      Q2      Q3      Q4      Q1     YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
 Xbox 360                   47     218     196     128      81     72%

let's do the math now :

PS3: 17+ 102+ 152+ 139=410

360:218+196+128+81=623

623>410

360>PS3 

how much more basic do i need to be?  

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.3picuri3

no, no it isn't. please take the time to read and comprehend what others with knowledge of accounting and sales are saying, lol.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.st1ka

actually no it isn't if anything this blog was proven incorrect and\or misleading

Link??

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.dream431ca

no, no it isn't. please take the time to read and comprehend what others with knowledge of accounting and sales are saying, lol.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]The "PS3 has no games!" comment is officially destroyed. That is an amazing feat considering it's like 5 or 6 million consoles behind.st1ka

actually no it isn't if anything this blog was proven incorrect and\or misleading

Link??

check the post right above yours

[QUOTE="micky4889"]

Its was in the Kotaku link i provided i though i would link you directly rather then give you the link to kotaku

but then again i would believe kotaku over you

What a difference a year makes. This time last year, sales of PS3 games accounted for only $13 million of EA's total net revenue. But this time this year? PS3 games account for $139 million in sales. Which is a 969% increase, and is milesahead of 360 sales, which "only" made the company $81 million. Don't bother asking us how this happened, we have no idea. As for the other systems, the PC was the second-biggest earner at $86 million (perhaps contributing to EA Sport's about-face), with PS2 sales just behind the 360 at $79 million. If you're after the information path less trodden, click through for the full breakdown, which includes stuff like DS and mobile sales

and no im pretty sure there talking about year

st1ka

from EA's balance sheet:

                        Q1      Q2      Q3      Q4      Q1     YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
 Xbox 360                   47     218     196     128      81     72%

let's do the math now :

PS3: 17+ 102+ 152+ 139=410

360:218+196+128+81=623

623>410

360>PS3 

how much more basic do i need to be?  

this is normal for some companies that are showing higher sales for the ps3 THIS YEAR. remember that the ps3 only took off this year which means that new ps3 owners are reaching for that back catalogue these companies released. on the 360 these games have already been exhausted from previous years. the 360 still has a higher attach rate.

the article is biased and shouldn't even be considered as a credible source anyway. i mean he included konami which released mgs4 only on ps3

This thread is full of fail.

PBSnipes nailed it 4 pages ago, followed by Stuka over the past two pages.

Gee, MGS4 made more money for Konami than the 360. Really? What a surprise.

Only fools look at a small time frame like 1 quarter or 2 quarters and draw conclusions without even understanding what game released then and why.

I predict EPIC will make more money this quarter from the 360 than the PS3. Weeeeee...I is smartz.

from the link you gave me:

                        Q1      Q2      Q3      Q4      Q1     YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
 Xbox 360                   47     218     196     128      81     72%

you were saying ;) ? 

st1ka

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

from the link you gave me:

                        Q1      Q2      Q3      Q4      Q1     YOY %

                      FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
 Xbox 360                   47     218     196     128      81     72%

you were saying ;) ? 

BumFluff122

to be honest i am a bit unsure of how to add them up, portugal's accountacy has some (slight) differences from that of the european, and this also has some (slight) differences from the US one

in my country a fiscal year is usually represented trough Q's 1-4 rather then Qs 2-4 and Q1 of next year