and the AA games roll in for the Wii 1 after the other...

check out Gamespots reviews. Swords and soldiers gets and AA.

link

Let the AAA games now start rolling in.

I've always believed the Wii had lower standards than the others, excitebots an 8? Motorstorm: PF an 8? Ya.

Well its great for you Wii users, I've already given up on mine.

I've always believed the Wii had lower standards than the others, excitebots an 8? Motorstorm: PF an 8? Ya.

Well its great for you Wii users, I've already given up on mine.

Ghoul_et_OMC

The Wii has been getting some great games lately. I beleive it got 4 AA(E)s in May alone.

The Wii has been getting some great games lately. I beleive it got 4 AA(E)s in May alone.

nintendofreak_2

Maybe Willy should have made a hype thread about May and not March :PSMR-Venom

What's with the duplicate topics?

I've always believed the Wii had lower standards than the others, excitebots an 8? Motorstorm: PF an 8? Ya.

Well its great for you Wii users, I've already given up on mine.

I've always believed the Wii had lower standards than the others, excitebots an 8? Motorstorm: PF an 8? Ya.

Well its great for you Wii users, I've already given up on mine.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] The standards argument can only get you so far. There is only one standard for "fun"...SMR-Venom

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] not all games need to be fun to be good, and yes they are not viewed with the same standards as next gen consoles just like a gba is not going yo be judged on the same standards as a gamecube so yeah he's rightedo-tensei

Making games on Wii costs alot less than the other 2 consoles so of course you will see alot of games being released on it Wii games makes more profits than the other 2 consoles cuz of the large install base and as what i said earlier the low cost of making games on it developing games on Wii is like developing games on PS2 and Xbox which means its like developing games on 9 years old consoles so it will be very cheap.

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] not all games need to be fun to be good, and yes they are not viewed with the same standards as next gen consoles just like a gba is not going yo be judged on the same standards as a gamecube so yeah he's rightedo-tensei

A non fun game is a crap game.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] I am so tempted to use that in my sig, but it is already too good. Seriously dude?SMR-Venom

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] I am so tempted to use that in my sig, but it is already too good. Seriously dude?loco145

A non fun game is a crap game.

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] diversity is good just like every song can't be rap or every movie can't be commedy, there are choicesedo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] Wtf does that have to do with anything? You seriously think that a game can be good and NOT be fun?....wowloco145

That is great for you wii owners but where are the real games? Besides Punch OUt.

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] not all games need to be fun to be good, and yes they are not viewed with the same standards as next gen consoles just like a gba is not going yo be judged on the same standards as a gamecube so yeah he's rightedo-tensei

What are you talking about dude? A game NEEDS to be fun. Why the **** would you play a game when you don't get any enjoyment out of it? :|

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] diversity is good just like every song can't be rap or every movie can't be commedy, there are choicesedo-tensei

do you consider a surrvival horror to be fun?

Yes.

is that the emotion it gives you when you play?

Fun is not an emotion.

Do you play and online competitive game with the mentality that you are going to have fun or that you're going to own?

I have fun owning.

Do you replay ng2 after dying countless times on higher level thinking that it's just for fun or for the challange?

The challenge makes it fun.

Ofcourse that you play the games that you play because you like them just like movies and music but that doesn't mean it has to have the label of fun to it like if it were a porpaganda of some sort

Yes, a good game has to be fun.

In red. Another example, I lost to Piston Hondo nearly 20 times in Title Defense mode in Punch-Out!!, I still had fun all those 20 times. Who woulda thunk it? ;)

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] I am so tempted to use that in my sig, but it is already too good. Seriously dude?Aljosa23

What are you talking about dude? A game NEEDS to be fun. Why the **** would you play a game when you don't get any enjoyment out of it? :|

Good for Wii owners I guess but I sold mine and still see no reason to get another one. These games could get AAA or AAAA and I still wouldn't be interested because review scores don't necessarily tell me whether I'll like a game or not and these games don't look interesting to me at all. I got bored with the Wii and so did my son and the types of games coming out for it aren't changing that. Maybe further down the road but....

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] Wtf does that have to do with anything? You seriously think that a game can be good and NOT be fun?....wowSMR-Venom

do you consider a surrvival horror to be fun?

Yes.

is that the emotion it gives you when you play?

Fun is not an emotion.

Do you play and online competitive game with the mentality that you are going to have fun or that you're going to own?

I have fun owning.

Do you replay ng2 after dying countless times on higher level thinking that it's just for fun or for the challange?

The challenge makes it fun.

Ofcourse that you play the games that you play because you like them just like movies and music but that doesn't mean it has to have the label of fun to it like if it were a porpaganda of some sort

Yes, a good game has to be fun.

In red. Another example, I lost to Piston Hondo nearly 20 times in Title Defense mode in Punch-Out!!, I still had fun all those 20 times. Who woulda thunk it? ;)

enjoyment does not and I mean does not have to equal "fun" we play for a large spectrum of emotions including fun but that's not all we look for in games. edo-tensei

Are you one of "those" people who think games are higher forms of art and fun doesn't matter?

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] why?

do you consider a surrvival horror to be fun?

Yes.

is that the emotion it gives you when you play?

Fun is not an emotion.

Do you play and online competitive game with the mentality that you are going to have fun or that you're going to own?

I have fun owning.

Do you replay ng2 after dying countless times on higher level thinking that it's just for fun or for the challange?

The challenge makes it fun.

Ofcourse that you play the games that you play because you like them just like movies and music but that doesn't mean it has to have the label of fun to it like if it were a porpaganda of some sort

Yes, a good game has to be fun.

edo-tensei

In red. Another example, I lost to Piston Hondo nearly 20 times in Title Defense mode in Punch-Out!!, I still had fun all those 20 times. Who woulda thunk it? ;)

You haven't made a point :| If a game is not fun or enjoyable, its failing to meet the criteria of why we have games in the first place.

your having fun with a game doesn't equal the person next to you gaving fun with the game. When you say a gamehas to fun to be a game then you're really generalizinga lot, it's similar to the hardcore vs casual debate, people want to deal in absolutes

Good for Wii owners I guess but I sold mine and still see no reason to get another one. These games could get AAA or AAAA and I still wouldn't be interested because review scores don't necessarily tell me whether I'll like a game or not and these games don't look interesting to me at all. I got bored with the Wii and so did my son and the types of games coming out for it aren't changing that. Maybe further down the road but....

JTH_22

Your loss.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] enjoyment does not and I mean does not have to equal "fun" we play for a large spectrum of emotions including fun but that's not all we look for in games. Aljosa23

Are you one of "those" people who think games are higher forms of art and fun doesn't matter?

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]

In red. Another example, I lost to Piston Hondo nearly 20 times in Title Defense mode in Punch-Out!!, I still had fun all those 20 times. Who woulda thunk it? ;)

You haven't made a point :| If a game is not fun or enjoyable, its failing to meet the criteria of why we have games in the first place.

your having fun with a game doesn't equal the person next to you gaving fun with the game. When you say a gamehas to fun to be a game then you're really generalizinga lot, it's similar to the hardcore vs casual debate, people want to deal in absolutes

edo-tensei

Fun = good game
Not fun = bad games

I'll occasionally judge games objectively, but that's boring as ****.

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arent fun, yet are still epic experiences.

The comparison with movies stands - you can have not-fun movies and fun movies, and they can both be equally awesome. This isnt about video games being some higher art, its about video games having the widest amount of potential for creativity and experience.

Therefore, IMHO, the fun argument sucks. Dont use it. It sounds retarded.

As for those who say "those games dont interest me at all", cool story. Seriously.

And as for the topic, I downloaded the game but havent played it yet :) Will do after I finish Mario Galaxy again. Good score!

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arentfun, yet are still epic experiences.

eveileb-ekam

[QUOTE="JTH_22"]

Good for Wii owners I guess but I sold mine and still see no reason to get another one. These games could get AAA or AAAA and I still wouldn't be interested because review scores don't necessarily tell me whether I'll like a game or not and these games don't look interesting to me at all. I got bored with the Wii and so did my son and the types of games coming out for it aren't changing that. Maybe further down the road but....

loco145

Your loss.

Ummm...I was bored with it so how would it be my loss I'm perfectly happy with what I've got. As far as I'm concerned I'm missing nothing.

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"]

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arentfun, yet are still epic experiences.

loco145

[QUOTE="Ghoul_et_OMC"]

I've always believed the Wii had lower standards than the others, excitebots an 8? Motorstorm: PF an 8? Ya.

Well its great for you Wii users, I've already given up on mine.

SMR-Venom

Yeah, the Sony and MS fanboys always love to bring out the "lower standards" argument when it suits them, but start whining and sniveling when the hermits bring out the exact argument against them. I love the hypocrisy of System Wars sometimes!

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

your having fun with a game doesn't equal the person next to you gaving fun with the game. When you say a gamehas to fun to be a game then you're really generalizinga lot, it's similar to the hardcore vs casual debate, people want to deal in absolutes

Aljosa23

Fun = good game
Not fun = bad games

I'll occasionally judge games objectively, but that's boring as ****.

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arent fun, yet are still epic experiences.

The comparison with movies stands - you can have not-fun movies and fun movies, and they can both be equally awesome. This isnt about video games being some higher art, its about video games having the widest amount of potential for creativity and experience.

Therefore, IMHO, the fun argument sucks. Dont use it. It sounds retarded.

As for those who say "those games dont interest me at all", cool story. Seriously.

And as for the topic, I downloaded the game but havent played it yet :) Will do after I finish Mario Galaxy again. Good score!

eveileb-ekam

As long as this medium is called "video games", you can't forget the fun argument. They're GAMES, they're meant to be FUN.

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"]

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arentfun, yet are still epic experiences.

eveileb-ekam

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] my point stands, a game doesn't have to be fun to be a good game;)edo-tensei

You haven't made a point :| If a game is not fun or enjoyable, its failing to meet the criteria of why we have games in the first place.

According to Oxford:

fun

• noun: 1 light-hearted pleasure or amusement. 2 a source of this. 3 playfulness or good humour.

• adjective: enjoyable.

I hope it helps.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] Wtf does that have to do with anything? You seriously think that a game can be good and NOT be fun?....wowloco145

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="JTH_22"]

Good for Wii owners I guess but I sold mine and still see no reason to get another one. These games could get AAA or AAAA and I still wouldn't be interested because review scores don't necessarily tell me whether I'll like a game or not and these games don't look interesting to me at all. I got bored with the Wii and so did my son and the types of games coming out for it aren't changing that. Maybe further down the road but....

JTH_22

Your loss.

Ummm...I was bored with it so how would it be my loss I'm perfectly happy with what I've got. As far as I'm concerned I'm missing nothing.

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"]

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arent fun, yet are still epic experiences.

The comparison with movies stands - you can have not-fun movies and fun movies, and they can both be equally awesome. This isnt about video games being some higher art, its about video games having the widest amount of potential for creativity and experience.

Therefore, IMHO, the fun argument sucks. Dont use it. It sounds retarded.

As for those who say "those games dont interest me at all", cool story. Seriously.

And as for the topic, I downloaded the game but havent played it yet :) Will do after I finish Mario Galaxy again. Good score!

svetzenlether

As long as this medium is called "video games", you can't forget the fun argument. They're GAMES, they're meant to be FUN.

I've always believed the Wii had lower standards than the others, excitebots an 8? Motorstorm: PF an 8? Ya.

Well its great for you Wii users, I've already given up on mine.

Ghoul_et_OMC

According to Oxford:

fun

• noun: 1 light-hearted pleasure or amusement. 2 a source of this. 3 playfulness or good humour.

• adjective: enjoyable.

I hope it helps.

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="loco145"]Euphemism for enjoyment...

loco145

[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"]

For the argument about "fun", the definition of fun is something that proves amusement, playfullness and enjoyment. Ive definitely played some video games that arent fun, yet are still epic experiences.

The comparison with movies stands - you can have not-fun movies and fun movies, and they can both be equally awesome. This isnt about video games being some higher art, its about video games having the widest amount of potential for creativity and experience.

Therefore, IMHO, the fun argument sucks. Dont use it. It sounds retarded.

As for those who say "those games dont interest me at all", cool story. Seriously.

And as for the topic, I downloaded the game but havent played it yet :) Will do after I finish Mario Galaxy again. Good score!

As long as this medium is called "video games", you can't forget the fun argument. They're GAMES, they're meant to be FUN.