Another multiplat killing it on the 360 and not the PS3.

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#1 Fios4Gaming
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http://www.vgchartz.com/

:LOL: vgchartz, but last month when Bioshock they showed the 360 outselling the PS3 2 to 1 and the real story was even worse for the PS3 as the 360 outsold it by more than 2 to 1. Now Battlefield. Lets bring up FFXIII, but the fact remains the 360 software is outselling the PS3 by alarming amounts, IE MW2, Bioshock 2, and now this. Discuss and dont get defensive please.

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#2 finalfantasy94
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I thought vgchartz wasint trustworty.

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#3 Fios4Gaming
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I thought vgchartz wasint trustworty.

finalfantasy94

not fully but close to be more accurate than some would like to believe.

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#4 BPoole96
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Can't say I care much. The PS3 is still selling enough to make the developers happy and as long as I get the games I don't mind the 360 versions outselling them

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#5 Ninten007
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I thought vgchartz wasint trustworty.

Fios4Gaming

not fully but close to be more accurate than some would like to believe.

Then you accept the fact the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide?

What about FF 13 selling better on PS3 despite a smaller userbase?

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#6 Fios4Gaming
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[QUOTE="Fios4Gaming"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I thought vgchartz wasint trustworty.

Ninten007

not fully but close to be more accurate than some would like to believe.

Then you accept the fact the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide?

What about FF 13 selling better on PS3 despite a smaller userbase?

FF13 is only sold on the 360 in NA. Just look at every other game, the 360 smashes the PS3 in software for the most part.

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#7 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I thought vgchartz wasint trustworty.

Fios4Gaming

not fully but close to be more accurate than some would like to believe.

I aggre that you can use VGCharts for show who leads , but saing "alarming amounts" is like you relay on those numbers direcly

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#8 CammieIsWii
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Bioshock? Isn't that the murder simulator where you practice how to kill little girls? Real PS3 owners don't play murder simulator filth like Bioshock, Killzone, Resistance or MAG

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#10 AHUGECAT
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It's not about sales, it's about how many people play online. Many PS3 online games are ghost towns a few months after they come out (ie LBP, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Resistance, etc. etc.). This is due to lack of sales. That's what makes me worry the most.

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#11 Ninten007
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="Fios4Gaming"]

not fully but close to be more accurate than some would like to believe.

Fios4Gaming

Then you accept the fact the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide?

What about FF 13 selling better on PS3 despite a smaller userbase?

FF13 is only sold on the 360 in NA. Just look at every other game, the 360 smashes the PS3 in software for the most part.

No it is also available in Europe on 360 too.

I am gonna bet FF13 sells better on PS3 than the 360 in NA. Batman AA did.

Yea the 360 wins the software battle but the PS3 software puts up impressive numbers as well and they have a smaller userbase.

Notice how close software numbers were:

360- 2,086,162

Ps3-2,048,697

Maybe PS3 owneres prefer to save some money for exclusives and pick up multiplats when they get cheap?

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#12 Adamantium4k2
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So now lemmings get to use VG when they feel they have some ammo againtst the PS3? Wow! Talk about double standards:lol:

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#13 88mphSlayer
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i think it's pretty obvious that BFBC2 has already sold a lot on 360 just judging by where it stands on xbox live rankings

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#14 Deathmedical
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I say alot of it has to do with the price of PS3.WhenPS3was first introduced itwas $500 + that turned alot ofgamers twardsthe cheaper360 and takingthe game sells with them.

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#15 BioShockOwnz
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It was #1 on the NPD's for 360 and #11 or #12 for PS3.

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#17 _Cadbury_
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It's not about sales, it's about how many people play online. Many PS3 online games are ghost towns a few months after they come out (ie LBP, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Resistance, etc. etc.). This is due to lack of sales. That's what makes me worry the most.

AHUGECAT
Rofl. What makes me worry is your source of information.
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#18 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It was #1 on the NPD's for 360 and #11 or #12 for PS3.

CammieIsWii

That is because Xbox users are interested in murdering little girls, while PS3 users are not.

And you can't stop talking about it. :P

So what does that say, mister? Huh?

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#19 shinrabanshou
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Lol at people feigning "concern" "alarm" and "worry" about the PS3's software sales.

The PS3 has a global software tie ratio of 7.8, only 1 less than the 360's (US-specific) 8.8 tie ratio, despite releasing a year to a year and a half later.

There is nothing to be alarmed about, you can sleep soundly now.

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#20 istreakforfood
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VGChartz is bad as listening to Patcher.

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#21 T-Aldous
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Lol at people feigning "concern" "alarm" and "worry" about the PS3's software sales.

The PS3 has a global software tie ratio of 7.8, only 1 less than the 360's (US-specific) 8.8 tie ratio, despite releasing a year to a year and a half later.

There is nothing to be alarmed about, you can sleep soundly now.

shinrabanshou
Just so you know, tie ratio has NOTHING to do with an early lead at all.
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#22 T-Aldous
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Bioshock? Isn't that the murder simulator where you practice how to kill little girls? Real PS3 owners don't play murder simulator filth like Bioshock, Killzone, Resistance or MAG

CammieIsWii
If you ever get a chance to play the game or do some research about it or even watch someone else play it then make a comment so you can at least sound like you have a clue about what you are talking about.
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#23 deathtarget04
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Bioshock? Isn't that the murder simulator where you practice how to kill little girls? Real PS3 owners don't play murder simulator filth like Bioshock, Killzone, Resistance or MAG

CammieIsWii

:| Havent played it have you? My favourite FPS this gen. Just finished B2 and it was better than the first.

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Bioshock? Isn't that the murder simulator where you practice how to kill little girls? Real PS3 owners don't play murder simulator filth like Bioshock, Killzone, Resistance or MAG

CammieIsWii
Low blow! I have a PS3 and I love Bioshock 1 and 2. I guess I'm into murder simulators!
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#25 ASK_Story
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So?

Dante's Inferno on the PS3 outsold the 360 2 to 1.

So did Batman AA.

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#26 CammieIsWii
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[QUOTE="CammieIsWii"]

Bioshock? Isn't that the murder simulator where you practice how to kill little girls? Real PS3 owners don't play murder simulator filth like Bioshock, Killzone, Resistance or MAG

deathtarget04

:| Havent played it have you? My favourite FPS this gen. Just finished B2 and it was better than the first.

Sorry, I am not interested in killing little girls. Why would I play Bioshock?

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#27 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Lol at people feigning "concern" "alarm" and "worry" about the PS3's software sales.

The PS3 has a global software tie ratio of 7.8, only 1 less than the 360's (US-specific) 8.8 tie ratio, despite releasing a year to a year and a half later.

There is nothing to be alarmed about, you can sleep soundly now.

T-Aldous

Just so you know, tie ratio has NOTHING to do with an early lead at all.

I doubt it's the primary factor. But I also doubt it has "NOTHING" to do with an early lead. Tie Ratios (generally) grow over the lifetime of a console.

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#28 deathtarget04
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[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="CammieIsWii"]

Bioshock? Isn't that the murder simulator where you practice how to kill little girls? Real PS3 owners don't play murder simulator filth like Bioshock, Killzone, Resistance or MAG

CammieIsWii

:| Havent played it have you? My favourite FPS this gen. Just finished B2 and it was better than the first.

Sorry, I am not interested in killing little girls. Why would I play Bioshock?

Your not forced to kill the girls :| Its an option.

Beats me why you wouldnt play it. It actually has a story, and one of the best out there.Unlike those previous FPS's you mentioned (except mag)

Wonderful atmosphre, exploring, enemies, fun multiplayer (This surprised me its fun once you get good at it)

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#29 T-Aldous
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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Lol at people feigning "concern" "alarm" and "worry" about the PS3's software sales.

The PS3 has a global software tie ratio of 7.8, only 1 less than the 360's (US-specific) 8.8 tie ratio, despite releasing a year to a year and a half later.

There is nothing to be alarmed about, you can sleep soundly now.

shinrabanshou

Just so you know, tie ratio has NOTHING to do with an early lead at all.

I doubt it's the primary factor. But I also doubt it has "NOTHING" to do with an early lead. Tie Ratios (generally) grow over the lifetime of a console.

You do have a point about the attach rate slowly climbing as the console ages. But a 1 year lead probabaly does not change things very much.

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#30 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]Just so you know, tie ratio has NOTHING to do with an early lead at all. T-Aldous

I doubt it's the primary factor. But I also doubt it has "NOTHING" to do with an early lead. Tie Ratios (generally) grow over the lifetime of a console.

If what you are saying is true, the PS2 should have the best tie ratio ever. I am pretty sure the 360 holds that honor as far as I know. Again it is not relevant.

The PS2 has the biggest install base ever for a home console and tie ratio is inversely proportional to install base.

Additionally, I should have clarified by saying early lifetime of a console. A late gen or last gen console isn't going to be able to continue growth in tie ratio.

But a quick look at tie ratio over time easily shows there is a relationship between time on market and tie ratio, at least in the earlier years of retail availability.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that the year's headstart played a part in a 360 owner on average having one game more than a PS3 owner.

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#31 alextherussian
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Sales...I care because of my deep seeded desire for my console of choice success as that I can smother it in the face of anonymous internet forumites.
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#32 hawk549
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xbox 360 + larger install base = more copies sold.

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#33 Fios4Gaming
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So?

Dante's Inferno on the PS3 outsold the 360 2 to 1.

So did Batman AA.

ASK_Story

i would edit that one more time since its completely false. Both those games barely beat out the 360 sales and one had joker exclusive content, and the other was marketed for the PS3 first and foremost.

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#34 hawk549
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Sorry, I am not interested in killing little girls. Why would I play Bioshock?

you are totally mistaken. You can save each and every little girl as well...completely up to you.

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#35 wooooode
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Thats in the US which the 360 has a dominant lead, and the PS3 has exclusives to challange thrid party titles.
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#36 Fios4Gaming
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Thats in the US which the 360 has a dominant lead, and the PS3 has exclusives to challange thrid party titles.wooooode

yeah like anything is gonna touch Halo reach numbers

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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]I doubt it's the primary factor. But I also doubt it has "NOTHING" to do with an early lead. Tie Ratios (generally) grow over the lifetime of a console.

shinrabanshou

If what you are saying is true, the PS2 should have the best tie ratio ever. I am pretty sure the 360 holds that honor as far as I know. Again it is not relevant.

The PS2 has the biggest install base ever for a home console and tie ratio is inversely proportional to install base.

Additionally, I should have clarified by saying early lifetime of a console. A late gen or last gen console isn't going to be able to continue growth in tie ratio.

But a quick look at tie ratio over time easily shows there is a relationship between time on market and tie ratio, at least in the earlier years of retail availability.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that the year's headstart played a part in a 360 owner on average having one game more than a PS3 owner.

I edited my post after doing more research. I do agree with you, it has an effect but is not the only reason.
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#39 Megaman5364
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="Fios4Gaming"]

not fully but close to be more accurate than some would like to believe.

Fios4Gaming

Then you accept the fact the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide?

What about FF 13 selling better on PS3 despite a smaller userbase?

FF13 is only sold on the 360 in NA. Just look at every other game, the 360 smashes the PS3 in software for the most part.

how ? and btw Mass Effect 2 isnt exclusive (
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It's not about sales, it's about how many people play online. Many PS3 online games are ghost towns a few months after they come out (ie LBP, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Resistance, etc. etc.). This is due to lack of sales. That's what makes me worry the most.

AHUGECAT
its not our fault that you guys only have halo and gears to play online...we have options to name a few..... Socom Confrontation, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Warhawk, Resistance 1 r 2, and our beloved single player experiences that you guys dont get much of these days
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#41 Gundamforce
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I thought vgchartz wasint trustworty.

finalfantasy94

Hell must be freezing over.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

It's not about sales, it's about how many people play online. Many PS3 online games are ghost towns a few months after they come out (ie LBP, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Resistance, etc. etc.). This is due to lack of sales. That's what makes me worry the most.

ktrotter11

its not our fault that you guys only have halo and gears to play online...we have options to name a few..... Socom Confrontation, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Warhawk, Resistance 1 r 2, and our beloved single player experiences that you guys dont get much of these days

You sure haven't done your research. As anonymous says: Lurk Moar.

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#42 Silent-Hal
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That's actually kind of sad. Great games like Bio 2 deserve to do well on both platforms.
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#43 FastEddie2121
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It was #1 on the NPD's for 360 and #11 or #12 for PS3.

CammieIsWii

That is because Xbox users are interested in murdering little girls, while PS3 users are not.

Will you be so kind as to tell me where else I can get as much ADAM as is required for my dominance of Rapture, or any other oceanic-noir metropolises for that matter.
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#44 jon_cia
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its pretty simply actually, people usually by sequels to games they own on a specific system, and since the original bioshock was out on 360 for a year before it hit the ps3, most people have the 360 version of the original hence they also bought the sequel on 360.

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#45 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="ktrotter11"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

It's not about sales, it's about how many people play online. Many PS3 online games are ghost towns a few months after they come out (ie LBP, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Resistance, etc. etc.). This is due to lack of sales. That's what makes me worry the most.

its not our fault that you guys only have halo and gears to play online...we have options to name a few..... Socom Confrontation, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Warhawk, Resistance 1 r 2, and our beloved single player experiences that you guys dont get much of these days

Don't forget MAG, Uncharted 2 aswell. I bought MAG, cause of a friend and have loved it, and have yet to purchase Bc2 because of the my MAG purchase, and the future purchase of GOWIII bundle pack. So yep exclusives do have a impact on 3rd party game sales, I'm sure I'm not the only one having the issue of keeping up with exclusives on the ps3 aswell as multiplates.
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#46 X360PS3AMD05
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I see the Ps3 6 Milion away and closing in :)