Another review that XPLAY got right and GS blew

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#1 stiltzsy
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DemiGod on GS: 6.5 (around here is garbage less than A)
DemiGod on XPLAY: 4 out of 5 (AA)

I own this game and have played it several times and it's definitely AA material. One might even argue AAA and some may even say A but less than A...come on get real. Once again GS blows it.

Edit: Had a typo of an extra A on teh 4 out of 5.

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#2 PBSnipes
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Ironically, the one time GS gets a review out a head of the other major sources is the one time they should have waited a week or two.

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4/5 is AA...

I agree though.

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#4 ActicEdge
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Cool. Gamespot reviews aren't my favourite but telling me X Play of all people were right because they conform with your opinion is rather useless to us. Maybe a why would be a better execution of your reasoning?

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#5 Baranga
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Cool. Gamespot reviews aren't my favourite but telling me X Play of all people were right because they conform with your opinion is rather useless to us. Maybe a why would be a better execution of your reasoning?

ActicEdge

Gamestop released the game before its street date. Then a bazillion pirates flooded the Demigod servers and made them asplode. It's almost fixed now.

Gamespot's review ignored this. The online not working was the main criticism.

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#6 Legendaryscmt
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I stopped watching X-Play after their Too Human review, but god do I miss the old stuff. However, kinda comparing it to GS really doesn't mean anything, considering that GS either gives a game the lowest or highest scores compared to others.

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#7 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Cool. Gamespot reviews aren't my favourite but telling me X Play of all people were right because they conform with your opinion is rather useless to us. Maybe a why would be a better execution of your reasoning?

Baranga

Gamestop released the game before its street date. Then a bazillion pirates flooded the Demigod servers and made them asplode. It's almost fixed now.

Gamespot's review ignored this. The online not working was the main criticism.

And what does that have to do with what I said? Did I even say I agreed with gamespot?

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#8 stiltzsy
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Cool. Gamespot reviews aren't my favourite but telling me X Play of all people were right because they conform with your opinion is rather useless to us. Maybe a why would be a better execution of your reasoning?

ActicEdge
Just watch their review...it's dead on. And XPLAY is typically > GS in most reviews. They understand how to rate a game and 5 stars is a better system then the number system used at GS. In fact the stars system maps better to the AAA rating system.
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#9 Crosshair_7
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Demigod is amazing, it's a AAA game for me, I don't see how GS gave it a 6.5, but whatever, I haven't been taking GS reviews seriously for months now.
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#10 halo_wars86
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i agree with both gamespot and xplay. the demigod game is na AA game period BUT the multiplayer broken. it is a multiplayer game only but the nonline is broken. a 6.5 from gamespot is taking it easy on this game

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#11 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Cool. Gamespot reviews aren't my favourite but telling me X Play of all people were right because they conform with your opinion is rather useless to us. Maybe a why would be a better execution of your reasoning?

stiltzsy

Just watch their review...it's dead on. And XPLAY is typically > GS in most reviews. They understand how to rate a game and 5 stars is a better system then the number system used at GS. In fact the stars system maps better to the AAA rating system.

That didn't answer my question at all. I haven't played this game or followed it. Reading/watching 2 opposite reviews of a game isn't going to make things any clearer to me about the game, it just tells me that you like X Play better. That's hardly useful to your opening or to me if I wanted to make a decision on the game. Explain why you disagree with the score instead of X > Y comments, those aren't helpful. Second of all, X Play > gamespot is your opinion but it is not fact so you really had no need to post that, it doesn't help your position at all.

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#12 Jerell_rast
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So if it receives a score you want to see, only then they got it right?
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#13 stiltzsy
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i agree with both gamespot and xplay. the demigod game is na AA game period BUT the multiplayer broken. it is a multiplayer game only but the nonline is broken. a 6.5 from gamespot is taking it easy on this game

halo_wars86
That's not fair as it was flooded with pirates that stole the game. I get on the servers without an issue and the online games I've played have played flawlessly for me. It's nice to not notice any lag for once (but that's probably because the style of game).
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#14 spinecaton
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I stopped watching X-Play after their Too Human review, but god do I miss the old stuff. However, kinda comparing it to GS really doesn't mean anything, considering that GS either gives a game the lowest or highest scores compared to others.

Legendaryscmt

What was wrong with X-play's review of Too Human? So they liked it and you didn't, their review was exactly how I felt about the game.

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#15 TheOwnerOner
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They both got it wrong, the game is about a 7.5
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#16 Legendaryscmt
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

I stopped watching X-Play after their Too Human review, but god do I miss the old stuff. However, kinda comparing it to GS really doesn't mean anything, considering that GS either gives a game the lowest or highest scores compared to others.

spinecaton

What was wrong with X-play's review of Too Human? So they liked it and you didn't, their review was exactly how I felt about the game.

Wrong, I actually did like Too Human. It wasn't the score I had a problem with, it was the actual review itself. I can understand it wasn't a review that Adam or Morgan did, but compared to a lot of the other reviews, it was shallow in content, didn't touch upon enough aspects, both good and bad, about the game to give a somewhat detailed review.

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#17 DanteSuikoden
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Cool. Gamespot reviews aren't my favourite but telling me X Play of all people were right because they conform with your opinion is rather useless to us. Maybe a why would be a better execution of your reasoning?

ActicEdge

Gamestop released the game before its street date. Then a bazillion pirates flooded the Demigod servers and made them asplode. It's almost fixed now.

Gamespot's review ignored this. The online not working was the main criticism.

And what does that have to do with what I said? Did I even say I agreed with gamespot?

I gave it pretty colors so you can notice it now:)

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#18 stiltzsy
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So if it receives a score you want to see, only then they got it right?Jerell_rast
No, they tend to get more games right then GS does. And yes it should match my opinion or why would I care to listen to them. Isn't that the point of a review system...you find one that most closely matches your tastes and you use it. The problem with GS is they are so random and inconsistent. This game was unfairly slammed by GS for the online servers being slammed because of pirates. Stardock tries to listen to the gamers by not including DRM, but it ends up hurting them in the review department at GS. The game isn't perfect...the manual should include the upgrade trees/paths but the gameplay is fantastic and it's just plain ol fun (which GS agreed with).

EDIT: Plus I don't know ANYONE that has played this game that agrees with the GS review.

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#19 SamiRDuran
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do people still come to gamespot for reviews? come on we are here for the community...
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#20 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

I stopped watching X-Play after their Too Human review, but god do I miss the old stuff. However, kinda comparing it to GS really doesn't mean anything, considering that GS either gives a game the lowest or highest scores compared to others.

Legendaryscmt

What was wrong with X-play's review of Too Human? So they liked it and you didn't, their review was exactly how I felt about the game.

Wrong, I actually did like Too Human. It wasn't the score I had a problem with, it was the actual review itself. I can understand it wasn't a review that Adam or Morgan did, but compared to a lot of the other reviews, it was shallow in content, didn't touch upon enough aspects, both good and bad, about the game to give a somewhat detailed review.

Sorry, you were just so vague with it :( mostly when people say they don't agree with the review they are talking about the score.

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#21 stiltzsy
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Also to add insult to injury...DemiGod uses Gamespot in the cover of the game saying "...A new twist for the genre." - Gamespot. How often does GS review a game very early after teh game releases? They are typically the last major site to review games. Here they jump the gun and slam a game...GS needs to consider re-reviewing this game. Everyone makes mistakes (we can forgive mistakes), but not admitting it when you know you screwed up is unforgivable.
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#22 Legendaryscmt
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

What was wrong with X-play's review of Too Human? So they liked it and you didn't, their review was exactly how I felt about the game.

spinecaton

Wrong, I actually did like Too Human. It wasn't the score I had a problem with, it was the actual review itself. I can understand it wasn't a review that Adam or Morgan did, but compared to a lot of the other reviews, it was shallow in content, didn't touch upon enough aspects, both good and bad, about the game to give a somewhat detailed review.

Sorry, you were just so vague with it :( mostly when people say they don't agree with the review they are talking about the score.

Naw, Too Human was a fun little romp. :D

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#23 KB1ankenship
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Why even bother saying GS got a game review wrong. If it wasn't for the forums, would anybody honestly come to this site? I kinda think of the GS group as the volunteers at the aquarium of the pacific, you'll take them if they work for free, but if they ask for pay, you have to tell them what they are really worth.

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#24 xscrapzx
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Look I don't understand what the problem is. If you like the game and you think it is fun and you are enjoying, what does it matter what gamespot gave it for a score? In all honesty what does it matter? Nothing, its just a matter of your opinion plain and simple, just play the game and move on in life. If it is that great of a game people will pick it up and try it out. I don't know why people get so hung up on scores on this site, read the review listen to what the reviewee has to say and take or leave it.

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#25 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Gamestop released the game before its street date. Then a bazillion pirates flooded the Demigod servers and made them asplode. It's almost fixed now.

Gamespot's review ignored this. The online not working was the main criticism.

DanteSuikoden

And what does that have to do with what I said? Did I even say I agreed with gamespot?

I gave it pretty colors so you can notice it now:)

Uh, that told me nothing, the online not working is why they gave it B as opposed to AAA? Yeah, I'm positive there were other issues. He didn't even say what made X plays review so great, just that gamespot was wrong. Finally, you highlighted SOMEONE ELSES RESPONSE, he hasn't given one so I really don't care to haveanother usereanswer the question for him. Even such, all this user did was say why he thinks gamespot slammed it, he didn't go nearly into detail enough for a normal person to find a problem, how does this prove X play was right and Gamespot was wrong?

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#26 DanteSuikoden
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Uh, that told me nothing, the online not working is why they gave it B as opposed to AAA? Yeah, I'm positive there were other issues. He didn't even say what made X plays review so great, just that gamespot was wrong. Finally, you highlighted SOMEONE ELSES RESPONSE, he hasn't given one so I really don't care to haveanother usereanswer the question for him. Even such, all this user did was say why he thinks gamespot slammed it, he didn't go nearly into detail enough for a normal person to find a problem, how does this prove X play was right and Gamespot was wrong?

ActicEdge

You asked for a why and you were given a why I don't know how much more detail you want him to go into

And you asked Baranga what did his answer have to do with what you asked thus me pointing it out:|

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#27 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh, that told me nothing, the online not working is why they gave it B as opposed to AAA? Yeah, I'm positive there were other issues. He didn't even say what made X plays review so great, just that gamespot was wrong. Finally, you highlighted SOMEONE ELSES RESPONSE, he hasn't given one so I really don't care to haveanother usereanswer the question for him. Even such, all this user did was say why he thinks gamespot slammed it, he didn't go nearly into detail enough for a normal person to find a problem, how does this prove X play was right and Gamespot was wrong?

DanteSuikoden

You asked for a why and you were given a why I don't know how much more detail you want him to go into

And you asked Baranga what did his answer have to do with what you asked thus me pointing it out:|

I didn't even ask for much detail, all I wanted was a reason why X play was right and gamespot was wrong. He didn't give me that. He speculated on why he thought gamespot reviewed it lower and didn't even tell me anything about X Play thus his response wasn't informative.

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#28 DanteSuikoden
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I didn't even ask for much detail, all I wanted was a reason why X play was right and gamespot was wrong. He didn't give me that. He speculated on why he thought gamespot reviewed it lower and didn't even tell me anything about X Play thus his response wasn't informative.

ActicEdge

Gamestop released the game before its street date. Then a bazillion pirates flooded the Demigod servers and made them asplode. It's almost fixed now.

Gamespot's review ignored this. The online not working was the main criticism.

Baranga

You know a conversation is going nowhere when you're back to square one lol

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Perhaps you should pay more attention to the content of the review itself instead of the numerical value placed upon it. If you find fault with the content of the review, please.... elaborate.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I didn't even ask for much detail, all I wanted was a reason why X play was right and gamespot was wrong. He didn't give me that. He speculated on why he thought gamespot reviewed it lower and didn't even tell me anything about X Play thus his response wasn't informative.

DanteSuikoden

Gamestop released the game before its street date. Then a bazillion pirates flooded the Demigod servers and made them asplode. It's almost fixed now.

Gamespot's review ignored this. The online not working was the main criticism.

Baranga

You know a conversation is going nowhere when you're back to square one lol

We're not back to square one though. Tell me what he posted that gives X Play so much credibilty and why there "AAA" review is right while gamespots is so wrong. Because of pirates ruining the online? Well, that's really out of gamespots hands now isn't it?

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#31 Baranga
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We're not back to square one though. Tell me what he posted that gives X Play so much credibilty and why there "AAA" review is right while gamespots is so wrong. Because of pirates ruining the online? Well, that's really out of gamespots hands now isn't it?

ActicEdge

Because reviewing a game without taking certain circumstances into account is really professional, right? It was NOT the game's fault that the servers were overwhelmed.

Why didn't Halo 3 get a 6.5, eh? The game was unplayable on day one.

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#32 Amk33_Gc_Nike
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There once was a time that Gamespot Review scores actually meant something but alas... those days are long behind us.

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#33 obamanian
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Gamespot is always underating the games that do not have huge hype.

Not much hype (like say Halo, KZ etc hype) means automatically -2/10 points, so if a game was without hype would be -2/10 in its score, like Halo 3 would be 8/10 and KZ2 7/10 etc

Same as Fable 2, Lost Odysseyand Mass Effect would be 9/10 if they were shooters and hyped, but got destroyed here because you can't only shoot in them

Demigod is a rather pointless and boring game, but it is not a 6/10, more like a 7/10

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#34 HuusAsking
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Gamespot is always underating the games that do not have huge hype.

Not much hype (like say Halo, KZ etc hype) means automatically -2/10 points, so if a game was without hype would be -2/10 in its score, like Halo 3 would be 8/10 and KZ2 7/10 etc

Same as Fable 2, Lost Odysseyand Mass Effect would be 9/10 if they were shooters and hyped, but got destroyed here because you can't only shoot in them

Demigod is a rather pointless and boring game, but it is not a 6/10, more like a 7/10

obamanian
Then how did Braid get a 9.5? It was an Arcade game that wasn't heavily hyped, either.
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#35 cainetao11
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I stopped watching X-Play after their Too Human review, but god do I miss the old stuff. However, kinda comparing it to GS really doesn't mean anything, considering that GS either gives a game the lowest or highest scores compared to others.

Legendaryscmt
I take it you didn't like Too Human? What did Xplay give it?
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#36 789shadow
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"I don't agree with GS's review, so they obviously must be wrong blah blah blah."

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#37 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Gamespot is always underating the games that do not have huge hype.

Not much hype (like say Halo, KZ etc hype) means automatically -2/10 points, so if a game was without hype would be -2/10 in its score, like Halo 3 would be 8/10 and KZ2 7/10 etc

Same as Fable 2, Lost Odysseyand Mass Effect would be 9/10 if they were shooters and hyped, but got destroyed here because you can't only shoot in them

Demigod is a rather pointless and boring game, but it is not a 6/10, more like a 7/10

HuusAsking

Then how did Braid get a 9.5? It was an Arcade game that wasn't heavily hyped, either.

Indeed, how did Braid get 9.5 ? That is one of the strangest things that happened the last decade indeed.

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#38 PoppaGamer
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Ironically, the one time GS gets a review out a head of the other major sources is the one time they should have waited a week or two.

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Doesn't that show a lack of good reviewing? If they have to wait and see what others say........
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#39 Ambli
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I keep seeing this game get 6 or 7 out of 10, ign for example.

I don't care what X-Play thinks anymore, The Force Unleashed was not a 2.

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#40 stiltzsy
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Why even bother saying GS got a game review wrong. If it wasn't for the forums, would anybody honestly come to this site? I kinda think of the GS group as the volunteers at the aquarium of the pacific, you'll take them if they work for free, but if they ask for pay, you have to tell them what they are really worth.

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Yeah, I can see that. I guess they got rid of all the good reviewers because they wanted some real pay for the work they do.
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#41 stiltzsy
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There once was a time that Gamespot Review scores actually meant something but alas... those days are long behind us.

Amk33_Gc_Nike
I agree, but why do we stick with GS scores for ownage then? It's like claiming ownage whenver a number 9 comes out of a random number generator.
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#42 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Ironically, the one time GS gets a review out a head of the other major sources is the one time they should have waited a week or two.

Doesn't that show a lack of good reviewing? If they have to wait and see what others say........

They typically don't wait to see what others say (at least they claim) often they say it's so that the online community can be worked out (more gamers online) and just not enough time in the day to review all the games.
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#43 expanded
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mmm.. gamerankings average is about 70 somethin %.. so i'll stick to dota. and wait for League of Legends
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#44 kidonre
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too bad X plays sucks
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#45 skrat_01
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X-Play? Ugh. I dont care what scores they give out, they aren't exactly a good source. Never the less GS screwed up the Demigod review, it happens.
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#46 asylumni
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[QUOTE="KB1ankenship"]

Why even bother saying GS got a game review wrong. If it wasn't for the forums, would anybody honestly come to this site? I kinda think of the GS group as the volunteers at the aquarium of the pacific, you'll take them if they work for free, but if they ask for pay, you have to tell them what they are really worth.

stiltzsy
Yeah, I can see that. I guess they got rid of all the good reviewers because they wanted some real pay for the work they do.

Are you referring to the people that got fired or quit to go to Giant Bomb and rate this game lower than GS?
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#47 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]X-Play? Ugh. I dont care what scores they give out, they aren't exactly a good source. Never the less GS screwed up the Demigod review, it happens.

Not necessarily. Using GameRankings as an average GS it only a little off base.
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#48 JLF1
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[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

i agree with both gamespot and xplay. the demigod game is na AA game period BUT the multiplayer broken. it is a multiplayer game only but the nonline is broken. a 6.5 from gamespot is taking it easy on this game

stiltzsy

That's not fair as it was flooded with pirates that stole the game. I get on the servers without an issue and the online games I've played have played flawlessly for me. It's nice to not notice any lag for once (but that's probably because the style of game).



How can you play online with a pirated game?

Isn't that impossible or at least very hard?

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#49 JLF1
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]X-Play? Ugh. I dont care what scores they give out, they aren't exactly a good source. Never the less GS screwed up the Demigod review, it happens.HuusAsking
Not necessarily. Using GameRankings as an average GS it only a little off base.



I agree with the way GS does reviews.

If an online only game has a broken online then that should get a lower number.

If all reviewers should wait until the online is fixed then they might never do a review. Then comes the question to GS from other angry devs asking the reviewers why they didn't wait to review their game before a certain patch was released or something.

They are reviewing the game as it was when it releases not what it might be in the future.

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#50 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="stiltzsy"][QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

i agree with both gamespot and xplay. the demigod game is na AA game period BUT the multiplayer broken. it is a multiplayer game only but the nonline is broken. a 6.5 from gamespot is taking it easy on this game

JLF1

That's not fair as it was flooded with pirates that stole the game. I get on the servers without an issue and the online games I've played have played flawlessly for me. It's nice to not notice any lag for once (but that's probably because the style of game).



How can you play online with a pirated game?

Isn't that impossible or at least very hard?

1) Black servers
2) No anti-piracy means on the servers at the time.