Any games where America is the bad guy?

I guess the original Half Life to an extent. You spend quite a while expecting to be rescued by the Military and then find out that they're purely on cleanup duty, and that includes all surviving members of the black mesa Staff.

Pretty sure they were in one of the Ace Combats.

Not the protagonists, though.

I think examples of both would mostly be found in Japanese games.

Try MGR. The villain is a US senator. Representative of congress.

Actually, the America he meant is the United States of America, which is not a continent

Good times

That's sad. Nobody likes us sniff sniff. I am of Russian origin myself, and every time I meet a Russian character in a game he tries to kill, rob or even rape the game protagonist lol.

Yeah, but we hate those assholes anyways

Where here comes the joke. As he didn't specify which America, I intentionally supposed he's talking about North America. The intention of the joke is to show that not everything is about the US.

Well there's the problem right there.

That doesn't count.. It always embodies a shadowy organization within the government who are the actual bad guys.. As a American I wouldn't mind it, its a fictitious game meant for entertainment value.. The only thing I see from that is it would give developers more ideas, settings, and variety to work with..

Well Kevin Spacey is the bad guy in Advanced Warfare, and he is the president after all

LOL

Cant I just get within 300m of him and have some fun?

Agreed. While I do believe that MGR fits the bill. Someone said something to the effect that its only rogue elements and such but the same can be said about the English chick in Uncharted 3. She wasn't the entire British govt. The fact is the people who make many games are from democratic countries and no matter how dirty, and our Government is dirty, we do have freedoms other countries don't. But yes, I would play the blitzkrieg in a shooter.

He wasn't the president. He was a CEO of the largest military private company like Blackwaters or something.

@jhonMalcovich: think about it for a little while...or browse netflix's original series

MW2, General Shephard is the main enemy of that game and he forces the army to create a war with Russia by slaughtering innocent Russians and other Americans. Heck you play as Soap a British soldier who kills him, the final act has no good guy Americans after Roach dies (I believe he was American).

Ok, it doesn't count to you. It does to me. The guy was a US senator in the game. That wouldn't shine well on Congress if it was a real occurrence and the excuse was, "It's just one guy, a shadow element". I guess the question is then describe how the entire US government and population can be the bad guy. Because there are so many in our democratic set up, unless every single member is in unison the bad guy, its always a rogue element.

I'm pretty sure in the early COD's I played as Russian soldiers fighting Nazi Germany in the battle of Stalingrad.

Any feelings of Germans and Japanese people of WW2 games?

Oh yes. In COD 1 and 2 Russians were presented in quite a good light. And after that, in COD 4, russians betray, if I remeber right. In World At War they weren´t the bad, but they did have some dark moments like vengeance and all. And in COD 6 they invade the US , lol.

you should watch movie avatar they made the army look like USA Marines and they made kevin spacey an american businessman with a blackwater type USA for sale army

yes they do make usa look bad in these movies as you root for people killing them

What about CoD when you has to massacre innocent people in that Russian Airport? I can remember pieces of that level but weren't you American?

Call of Duty?

Deus Ex 1 (realistically).

Probably a spoiler, but hey its so old who cares.

FFVII, it's cryptic but it's there

To be fair, most games where it turns out America is the Bad guy is a spoiler with itself.

It's a lot easier.

Hell, every CoD set in WW2 has Russians as the good guys.

Only in flight sims. But, it's been a while though.

Even Americans don't have any pride in America anymore. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

Red Alert depending on which country you choose.

Along with all the Native Americans they killed and personally owned black slaves, presumably.

Woah, woah, let's be honest here.

Nobody played allies in Red Alert.

not to stick up for fox news because i can't say i care for them, but i can see this being some dumbass liberal gamers wet dream. america has its faults, but she is a damn fine country overall. we as a whole should be more respectful to our own.

I did lol.

Mike Tyson's Punch Out

Fifa

@uninspiredcup: My comment didn't refer to racism so get off your fucking high horse.

Being from a member of the country "Scotland", our ancestors fought bravely against the English for the freedoms, as opposed to just migrating and taking it all. My heritage is very proud, and well deserved. While Americans took freedom, then boasted about giving it to the world, we genuinely did fight for freedoms, a true example of the human spirit.

If anything, video games should have Scottish heroes.

Definitely.

There are not very many, because mainstream media must apologize for all of the crimes of American imperialism or come under fire from "critics." Because of this, these conceptions dominate popular consciousness. Today the propaganda is becoming increasingly ridiculous and full of falsification.

At least Rocky 4 is good.

Oh, you know, because they fucking won the war against Nazi Germany (the surrender was to the Soviet Union).

More examples of historical revisionism in US education: obfuscating WW2.

Actually there is a game where the US is the bad guy.

*Spoilers*

The first Metal Gear Solid. You're being sent to kill terrorists who really just want to heal their soldiers. Instead you kill them, including using biological warfare to deliver FoxDie and when it was done the Secretary of Defense was going to Labamba the whole thing to hell. On top of that they were developing one of the most devastating weapons in human history and did everything to hide it. But instead they continued to make them in MGS2. So there you go.

If you read the events about the German surrender, Germany surrendered to the Allies at the Western Front first (signing the documents of surrender) followed by a similar signing with the Soviets a day later.

I mentioned MS Combat Flight Simulator 2 where the player can choose the IJN or IJA to play against US forces in teh singleplayer campaign.

In Combat Flight Simulator 3, the player can choose the Luftwaffe and play against the USAAF and RAF.

In Battlefield 1942, I recall playing as Germans in the Omaha Beach map. I also played as Japanese in several island maps (Iwo Jima, Wake).

There's tons. Any mob game and just look back to many 80s and 90s arcade style games. Metal Gear Solid series is a more recent example.

Rainbow Six: Patriots was about a domestic terrorist group who target and execute people on behalf of victims of what they considered Wall Street corruption. Basically an armed militia group that evolved from the Occupy Wall Street protests. It's a shame that it got cancelled because a game dealing with domestic terrorism is something new and Ubisoft Montreal is a talented studio, so at worst the result would have triggered some interesting discussion in the industry.

Are you mad?

Have you played a recent Ubisoft Rainbow Six game? Shit would have handled with the same amount of grace as a Marvel flick.