Anyone else find Fallout 3 too hard to Play ? I Traded Mine.

Hey guys, first let me say i'm nearly 40 years old and a long time lover and veteran of shooters and RPG's, and being, to this day, a player and devoted fan of Elder scrolls IV:Oblivion, i was looking forward to Fallout 3, every bit as much as Gears 2.

However once i got it home and began playing, i noticed almost immediately that, stimpaks(health),weapons, armor, money and level progression was very difficult and hard to come by, and the new V.A.T. aiming system was ineffective on most larger and numerous enemies.

If and when i did manage to clear out a group of raiders and super mutants, all my ammo was depleted and i would constantly find myself low on caps, and searching the wasteland for things to sell because i'm constantly buying more ammo and health or paying for a place to sleep.

Now i didn't just play for an hour or two and say , "well this is too tough i'm trading this", i really gave this game a chance, i devoted 12 hours of gameplay to this game and completed about 7 missions and my character reached a level 6 and still everything was very hard to come by and enemies were just as difficult to kill, not to mention when i finally found the heavy armor in the game that they show on the games case cover, it said i could not wear the armor until i did the heavy armor training.

What the heck is that about ? i didn't even know where to go for the training and i had the strategy guide, but couldn't find anything about it.

So by this time i had just about had enough and i unfortunately had to trade in the game because it was just more frustrating then enjoyable so, even though i was disappointed, that the progression of the game wasn't more similar to Oblivion, at least i wasn't alone in my opinion.

My friend experienced the exact same thing and returned it to his game store and the store employee said to him "let me guess it's to difficult, right?" and my friend was like " yeah how did you know ? ", the guy replied, we've been getting alot of that.

So maybe Bethesda could've done things a little differently, or maybe you just have to be a true RPG master like my brother in law because he's still playing his and so far he still enjoys it. So who knows.

What do you guy's think ?

The game was just right depending on what difficulty you were at...

Did you try putting it on very easy?

For me it was more the rapid boredom factor than the difficulty factor, which is why I'm damned glad I rented this game and didn't buy it.ANeuralPathway

Ditto. My roomy bought the game and it's amazing how boring it gets. The combat is pretty sucky in my opinon too.

theres a thing called a game guidenaruto7777

I got the strategy guide, that's my point, not even the strategy guide reads with the clarity and order of the Oblivion guide, it was difficult to find exactly what you were looking for, it really was'nt in any kind of sequence or quest order.

Playing te game on hard and I'm pretty much enjoying it. I'm still not half way through, still doing quests which is really great, I like how there's so much to do in the game, and I'm glad it's not really all that like Oblivion since I couldn't stand that game.

Just stick to doing some basic quests before jumping to the main one and get some good leveling up.

Nah. The trick is to take your victim's armor, repair it into one good set, and sell it. That should keep you going.lowe0

That's another thing, i was a level 6 and i still could not repair my own stuff, that was just something else to waste my caps on, i mean c'mon they could at least incorporate a similar repair hammer type system so you don't have to blow money on that too.

The game was just right depending on what difficulty you were at...

Did you try putting it on very easy?

DragonfireXZ95

I'm playing on very hard and I'm addicted to this game. I started on hard and decided I needed a bigger challenge. Actually I just wanted to change my stats. But the game is fun as hell. I have no idea why the TC cannot get by. Maybe he does not look in ammo boxes. Playing on very hard it takes a huge ammount of ammo to kill enemies and I have a decent ammount of ammo. lvl8 barely going to the radio tower.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Nah. The trick is to take your victim's armor, repair it into one good set, and sell it. That should keep you going.gearsgamer69

That's another thing, i was a level 6 and i still could not repair my own stuff, that was just something else to waste my caps on, i mean c'mon they could at least incorporate a similar repair hammer type system so you don't have to blow money on that too.

To repair an item press triangle when you have two of the same kind. It simulates that you take parts from one item to the other. You also need to raise your repair skill to make more perfect weapons. Man get a guide if you cant figure this out on your own.

Playing te game on hard and I'm pretty much enjoying it. I'm still not half way through, still doing quests which is really great, I like how there's so much to do in the game, and I'm glad it's not really all that like Oblivion since I couldn't stand that game.

Just stick to doing some basic quests before jumping to the main one and get some good leveling up.

Dystopian-X

I agree with you I liked oblivion but it got boring quick. Fallout 3 is totally addicting. Hard is the best way to play it. Although I like very hard.

Here is a tip for you.

Get repair and medicine skills to at least 50

Find weapons, armors, repair use them or sell them to get caps.

Also get meelee skills, so u don't have to waste ammos. Get shiskabob from a quest or steal them.

I can kill supermutants in two or three hits on vats without losing hp.

Have lots of strength and endurance My build is 7 strength 7 endurance

Here is a tip for you.

Get repair and medicine skills to at least 50

Find weapons, armors, repair use them or sell them to get caps.

Also get meelee skills, so u don't have to waste ammos. Get shiskabob from a quest or steal them.

I can kill supermutants in two or three hits on vats without losing hp.

Have lots of strength and endurance My build is 7 strength 7 endurance

outlawz247

On very hard its more like 40 shots in the head!

I'm playing on Normal and it is pretty easy, some parts were pretty hard. What are you putting your stats toward. Small arms are for pistols and rilfes, engery weeapons are laser/plasma, heavy are the big guns. If you don't have that many points in small arms and try to fire a Hunting Rilfle you'll not hit anything. It is also a good idea to carry more than one weapon, right now I have a combat shotgun, plasma rifle and Chinese Assault Rifle.

To get the power armor training you have to do the story quest, and get inside the Pentagon. But I'm using the Ranger Battle Armor.

For places to sleep there are beds around the waste land you can sleep on (like the common houses) or you can disarm/arm the bomb in Megaton to get a house where you can sleep (and store your loot).

Only things thats been really challenging so far is the enclave. God i hate themdrunkenhamster1

I like the Enclave, they have nice Plasma Rifles, afew plasma shots to the head normally kills one. (I love the sniper and commando perk). The Radiscropins are the baine of my life, not really hard to kill but just annoying.

I feel foolish for wasting $60 on this game. I can't stand it at all, put in around ten + hours into it and not having fun at all. It's not difficult just boring and dreadful to look at.

I've noticed that games like this, Morrowind, Mass Effect just aren't my thing. I guess I just don't like open world PC type games in general.

The game is hard for the first few hours because you start with nothing and you can potentially run into much higher level enemies. But eh, its not that damn difficult. I've put 40 hours into it so far and haven't died once, so yeah. Once you hit lvl 10 or so it becomes quite easy.

I really think people really approached this game from the wrong perspective. If you are going to explore or do anything really, you needed to make sure you have stimpacks available and hotkeyed.

I'm surprised it scored so high, the game was boring IMO

Your prob just used to games like re4 when you get ammo all the time :)

I cant wait to get it! Its so hard to find games i cant beat in a weekend now and im only 17 but have been playing since like the sega days when i was 3

There are some small things that make it a bit harder than it should be. Like not being able to rest in "owned" beds(yet murdering the owner is no biggie:P), and when you finally find an "unowned" bed there's prolly an enemy somewhere 10 miles away that stops you from resting.

Leveling is a bit slow too at least in the beginning, but all in all if you don't stray too far into some super mutant base with no stimpaks and ammo I don't think the difficulty is an issue. I'm glad it's not a cakewalk like Oblivion.

I think you missed the entire point of the game. Stimpacks, ammo, weapons, better armor etc. are supposed to be hard to come by. You're trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland for heaven's sakes.Verge_6

the combat system is a little chunky and hard to use.

that's my only problem: when you're fighting large groups of enemies with no support, VATS merely hinders you combined with the low ammo, and that you have to go through pipboy for everything, and that the shortcuts are useless, they don't even show what wheapon you have picked on them in real battle time so often i end up switching to fists and just dying.

I love the game.

Things are hard to come by...it's a post nuclear landscape.

You can't ammass caps....but its a barters system...where caps only make up the difference...once you work that out it gets easier.

You can also drink the radioactive water to heal to full. There are many options. Pick up some poitns in medicine this helps a lot. Repair is awesome since it compresses junk in your inv, and makes it that you can barter more. Throw some grenades at ppl in VATS its almost an insta kill, look at the buffs you get from Mentats etc. You just need to work things out...which makes it more fun and ads to the post nuclear feel.

You need to think some to work things out...its not jsut a grind to xp like wow for example.

You give up to quickly. IM going to be 37 in a couple weeks. So im an oldtimer as well. You need to try and play R6V2 Terrorist Hunt on the hardest settings with your dumb bot teammates. Im going through all the levels on every difficulty and Murdertown is my last map to complete. I have done it every bit of 50-60 times and I cant get anywhere.

Either the team is too dumb to shoot or too slow or misses or wont move when you say...I love how they sit there and let a bot run right past them only to kill me...Its the best really..I dont normally give up on a game. BUT Im running out of patience. And honestly, I have done everything I can to try and beat it and just cant..So you want hard....Give it a try..:)

I'm level 15 or 16 now and the game feels a little easier.

In the beginning, yeah it was harder. It pretty much was take whatever an enemy has that you've killed and use it. Dump whatever you have that isn't useful. I was constantly changing armor and weapons as I killed enemies. I still travel with a 2nd suit of armor incase the one I have gets horribly damage while out fighting.

As you level up you can put points into repair, now I can repair my own armor and weapons. Also, to repair them you need to have a duplicate of the weapon in your inventory. To repair a .32 pistol you need another one in your inventory to use for parts.

As for VATS, I have never had trouble with it unless some small object is blocking me from shooting an enemy, despite VATS saying 95% accuracy.

Far too many people came to the game with the FPS mind set. This isn't an FPS.

You may have also messed up your spec at the beginning by allocating points into useless pools, such as energy weapons. I think the game could have made that a little more clear. Don't put points into heavy weapons/energy weapons until you start to see them more and more as you progress. At the point I'm at lots of Muties have mini guns and I've been blown to hell by raiders with rocket launchers. Talon are using energy weapons now too.

"...a player and devoted fan of Elder scrolls IV:Oblivion"

Yeah, there's your problem. Go grind your teeth on a hardcore RPG and then try to tell me that Fallout 3 is too tough.

Then you just didn't play it right, sorry to say it that way. But I don't have any problems. Maybe because I don't try to kill everything as if it was a game of MP Quake 3.

You are suposed to take you time, you are suposed to use VATS, and your suposed to scavanged for anything usefull. If you don't use VATS then you run out of ammo within minutes, why? Because the game uses the same mechanism to calculate accuracy in VATS as in free aming.

"...a player and devoted fan of Elder scrolls IV:Oblivion"

Yeah, there's your problem. Go grind your teeth on a hardcore RPG and then try to tell me that Fallout 3 is too tough.

NAPK1NS

Fallout 3 is more hardcore than Oblivion, and i spent 200 hours on Oblivion. Besides, Fallout 3 is easy as heck. There's even a Very Easy difficulty that half the people on my friendlist didn't find untill their second or third character.

"...a player and devoted fan of Elder scrolls IV:Oblivion"

Yeah, there's your problem. Go grind your teeth on a hardcore RPG and then try to tell me that Fallout 3 is too tough.

NAPK1NS

So true, I bought Planescape: Torment from a friend about a week ago ($5!!!!) and have been playing it. Anyways, I bought Fallout 3 today, and I have to say, Fallout 3 is SOOOOOOOO much easier than the RPGs of yesteryear. BTW, Planescape + Widescreen mod = sexiness of epic proportions! :D

Then you just didn't play it right, sorry to say it that way. But I don't have any problems. Maybe because I don't try to kill everything as if it was a game of MP Quake 3.

You are suposed to take you time, you are suposed to use VATS, and your suposed to scavanged for anything usefull. If you don't use VATS then you run out of ammo within minutes, why? Because the game uses the same mechanism to calculate accuracy in VATS as in free aming.

trasherhead

That could very well be, perhaps i did approach it more from the shooter stand point, then that of an RPG, for example my brother in law has Fallout 3 as well and he's terrible at shooters but he's always been a master at RPG's and he's now a level 6 and his inventory and money is flourishing and he's loving the game, so i'm pretty sure it was my own doing.

However i still found the whole landscape and atmosphere really dreary and boring, and i'll always prefer Oblivion, i'm a huge fan of the middle ages and those RPG's as well as hack slashers like Baldurs Gate; D.A. will always be my favorites.