Anyone else found it weird that remakes/remasters of PlayStation games were at Nintendo Directs first?

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#1 nintendoboy16
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So, some flashback:

Though announced later on their respective days as multiplat, Bandai Namco and Eidos/Amazon announced remakes and remasters of games associated with Nintendo's rival, PlayStation: Klonoa Phantasy Reverie (Klonoa 1 and 2), Pac-Man World Re-Pac, and TR 1-3 remastered (yes, I know TR wasn't a PS game first, but like Konami's Solid Snake, Lara WAS largely associated with PlayStation).

And I can't help but find it a bit odd. Welcome for sure, but odd. At least Klonoa and Pac-Man make SENSE with Nintendo given Klonoa has two GBA games and a Wii game and Pac-Man... well, it's Pac-Man. Even Miyamoto worked on that franchise.

But Tomb Raider? The oddest. I know Nintendo consoles aren't completely alien to that franchise, but hardly anyone remembers the GB/GBC games, Legend (what got me into the franchise) was a late GameCube port, came out around the same time as Zelda: Twilight Princess... and the Wii for that matter and after the Wii with a horrid port of Underworld, the series has largely ignored Nintendo again until now.

You'd think State of Play would've picked the TR announcement, given that franchise inspired Uncharted. Nope, it's the audience spoiled by full analog controlled platformers and not tank controls.

Anyone else thought the same?

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#2  Edited By hardwenzen
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As a matter of fact, i did find it weird. Pretty sure that Sony will be acquiring Nintendo by early next year, so all of this makes perfect sense.

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#3  Edited By Mesome713
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Sony just coping people like always. its what all the great dictators do like China, Russia, North korea, etc.

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#4  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Wonder by they left out TR: C and TR: TLR

Lesser games for sure, but they are part of that era.

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#5  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@uninspiredcup said:

Wonder by they left out TR: C and TR: TLR

Lesser games for sure, but they are part of that era.

Probably pulling a Capcom with early "Legacy Collection" (pre-Zero/ZX) of Mega Man compilations.

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@hardwenzen: ya right the day Sony can afford to buy nintendo out right is the day pigs fly do you really think Sony can afford anything other then the Playstation they don't even sell phones anymore haven't seen a TV by Sony either in a while so what makes you believe nintendo is going to get out of the business and bought by sony

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@mariokart64fan said:

@hardwenzen: ya right the day Sony can afford to buy nintendo out right is the day pigs fly do you really think Sony can afford anything other then the Playstation they don't even sell phones anymore haven't seen a TV by Sony either in a while so what makes you believe nintendo is going to get out of the business and bought by sony

Whatchu mean you haven't seen their tvs? They sell a ton of them, and have excellent cameras and audio equipment. They could buy Nintendo in a heartbeat, and finally free Metroid from its Nintendo shackles. If this happens, it'd be the best news the gaming industry has ever seen in over 25 years.

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Thought it was bizarre that the tomb raider 1-3 remasters were seen first at the recent direct.

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#9 deactivated-6717e99227ada
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Sony's nowadays just don't want people to think that they got any games.

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#10 Litchie
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I didn't think about it. Don't think any of those are associated with PS anymore. Switch is popular, that is why it gets more games.

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#11 templecow90999
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From the PS4 gen on Sony seems like they don't give much of a crap about their history or legacy games- 1st or 3rd party

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#12 sakaiXx
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Highly likely they just targetting a new audience that never played the games before thus more sales.

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#13 Gifford38
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So funny how every one in here blames sony for this.

these games are not sony owned games.

like blaming xbox for alan wake2 at a sony state of play.

or mass effect remake on a sony state of play.

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#14 Gifford38
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@Litchie said:

I didn't think about it. Don't think any of those are associated with PS anymore. Switch is popular, that is why it gets more games.

more games? so how many third party games are not on switch over ps5 and xbox?

call of duty, balder gate, and many many more.

this is why they are trying to get switch 2 more powerful to get more third party support.

to make it easier for developers porting games.

these half ass remakes yes make it to the switch.

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@gifford38: Are they Nintendo owned games?

Microsoft should definitely be called out for having one of the best developers in the business and fail to capitalise on them.

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@templecow90999 said:

From the PS4 gen on Sony seems like they don't give much of a crap about their history or legacy games- 1st or 3rd party

Sure feels that way.

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#17  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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Nintendo had a stranglehold on the market until N64. They would dictate how many games third parties could release on their platforms. They would reject games if they did not have exclusive content for the Nintendo platform.

When other platforms became more popular, developers had more freedom to release and market their games.

As time went on, these games did find their way to Nintendo platforms, when Nintendo's restrictions were removed. Klonoa and Tomb Raider came to the Wii, so this did happen with some games. Pac-Man World was on the GBA, 2 & 3 were on GameCube. GameCube got an exclusive Metal Gear Solid game.

In any case, I don't think anyone is fighting over these franchises at this point anymore, or over retro remakes. I'm not sure why Nintendo wants to feature retro remakes in a Direct, but maybe it is part of their marketing with classic brands.

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#18  Edited By Litchie
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@gifford38 said:
@Litchie said:

I didn't think about it. Don't think any of those are associated with PS anymore. Switch is popular, that is why it gets more games.

more games?

Yeah. More games.

@gifford38 said:

so how many third party games are not on switch over ps5 and xbox?

Many. What is your point?

@gifford38 said:

this is why they are trying to get switch 2 more powerful to get more third party support.

That's usually one of the reasons why a new console is more powerful than the previous one indeed. What is your point?

@gifford38 said:

these half ass remakes yes make it to the switch.

Plus all the indies, BR games, Witcher, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Diablo and whatnot. Games that would never come to Switch if it wasn't as popular as it is.

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@Litchie said:
@gifford38 said:
@Litchie said:

I didn't think about it. Don't think any of those are associated with PS anymore. Switch is popular, that is why it gets more games.

more games?

Yeah. More games.

@gifford38 said:

so how many third party games are not on switch over ps5 and xbox?

Many. What is your point?

@gifford38 said:

this is why they are trying to get switch 2 more powerful to get more third party support.

That's usually one of the reasons why a new console is more powerful than the previous one indeed. What is your point?

@gifford38 said:

these half ass remakes yes make it to the switch.

Plus all the indies, BR games, Witcher, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Diablo and whatnot. Games that would never come to Switch if it wasn't as popular as it is.

yes but 99% switch users do not buy a switch for third party titles. over priced bad ports.

switch is for zelda. nin making switch2 so third party can release day one. not year later.

so you are right third party games would not touch the switch if it was not popular because of this.

but third party games sell like crap on switch reason 2 why switch 2 needs to be bit more powerful or same as series s.

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#20 SecretPolice
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If you're holding Phony's stock, now would be a good time to...

lolol :P

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@templecow90999 said:

From the PS4 gen on Sony seems like they don't give much of a crap about their history or legacy games- 1st or 3rd party

Sure feels that way.

then why is sony remaking many game? from last of us to even medevil.

now silent hill. thought sony are making to many remakes.

I will take remakes all day. please sony do warhawk next.

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#22  Edited By Litchie
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@gifford38 said:

yes but 99% switch users do not buy a switch for third party titles. over priced bad ports.

switch is for zelda. nin making switch2 so third party can release day one. not year later.

Uh-huh. I think Nintendo is making Switch 2 more because it's a good time for them to do so. The sales of Switch beginning to dwindle is probably a bigger reason for Nintendo to make a Switch 2, rather than keeping their 3rd party support intact.

@gifford38 said:

so you are right third party games would not touch the switch if it was not popular

Yeah, I know.

@gifford38 said:

but third party games sell like crap on switch reason 2 why switch 2 needs to be bit more powerful or same as series s.

It wouldn't make much sense for developers to continue making Switch ports if they didn't sell well enough. But if your point is that Nintendo needs to have similar power of hardware as PS or Xbox to make 3rd party devs want to release their games on their platforms, Switch is pretty much evidence of the opposite. Again, a popular machine will get support. Switch got so popular it got an oatmeal version of Witcher 3. Same thing would happen with a weaksauce Switch 2 if it was popular.

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@gifford38 said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@templecow90999 said:

From the PS4 gen on Sony seems like they don't give much of a crap about their history or legacy games- 1st or 3rd party

Sure feels that way.

then why is sony remaking many game? from last of us to even medevil.

now silent hill. thought sony are making to many remakes.

I will take remakes all day. please sony do warhawk next.

PS1 mini- hot garbage

No backwards compatibility

Their PS1 and 2 game catalogs on the PS Plus service are barebones and hardly growing

PS3 catalog is streaming only

So many franchises especially from the PS1 and 2 days have been left behind by Sony

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@templecow90999 said:

PS1 mini- hot garbage

No backwards compatibility

Their PS1 and 2 game catalogs on the PS Plus service are barebones and hardly growing

PS3 catalog is streaming only

So many franchises especially from the PS1 and 2 days have been left behind by Sony

Yup! I miss when Sony was diverse. Besides Spider-Man and Uncharted, can't say I've cared much for their first party lately.