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#1 IAMSERIAL
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Just reminds me of Borderlands. I would have preferred Doom 4. Not to mention id software hasn't made a hit game since Return to Castle Wolfenstein. So why exactly is everyone drooling over them(id software)?

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Just reminds me of Borderlands. I would have preferred Doom 4. Not to mention id software hasn't made a hit game since Return to Castle Wolfenstein. So why exactly is everyone drooling over them(id software)?

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Rage looks good in its own right.
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#3 markinthedark
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i think most people are drooling over the id tech 5 engine.

and rage happens to be the only game using it right now.

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#4 lundy86_4
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Game looks good, plus the tech is looking pretty damn impressive.

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#5 millerlight89
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Doom 3 was damn good in my book, so no cluw what your on about. ID is full of really talented people that really try to bring the most out of the game, so they take a bit longer. They have been working on the new engine so they have not released a game in a bit, but I am fully expecting Rage to be amazing.
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#6 organic_machine
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Just reminds me of Borderlands. I would have preferred Doom 4. Not to mention id software hasn't made a hit game since Return to Castle Wolfenstein. So why exactly is everyone drooling over them(id software)?

IAMSERIAL

They've made one game since RTCW, which was Doom 3, and it was a great game. It wasn't spectacular like everyone was hoping, but it was still great. everyone is drooling because they have an amazing track record of quality games. id Tech 5 is sweet, and Rage looks pretty good so far, but I haven't seen enough to make much of an opinion.

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#7 Snagal123
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ID didn't make RTCW. It was made by Splash Damage and Gray Matter.

Before Doom 3 the last game ID made was Quake 3.

Doom 3 was not a bad game either.

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#8 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]

Just reminds me of Borderlands. I would have preferred Doom 4. Not to mention id software hasn't made a hit game since Return to Castle Wolfenstein. So why exactly is everyone drooling over them(id software)?

organic_machine

They've made one game since RTCW, which was Doom 3, and it was a great game. It wasn't spectacular like everyone was hoping, but it was still great. everyone is drooling because they have an amazing track record of quality games. id Tech 5 is sweet, and Rage looks pretty good so far, but I haven't seen enough to make much of an opinion.

Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays...Doom 3 was a major let down in every way except graphics...their latest game Wolfenstein was a poor addition to the series. Really the only good game they've released in the last decade was RTCW. They have released more mediocrity than quality.

EDIT: Correction, they didn't specifically make Quake 4 or Quake Wars but they were more than involved in them.

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#9 shutdown_202
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I have a feeling its going to bomb hard.

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#10 Snagal123
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]

Just reminds me of Borderlands. I would have preferred Doom 4. Not to mention id software hasn't made a hit game since Return to Castle Wolfenstein. So why exactly is everyone drooling over them(id software)?

IAMSERIAL

They've made one game since RTCW, which was Doom 3, and it was a great game. It wasn't spectacular like everyone was hoping, but it was still great. everyone is drooling because they have an amazing track record of quality games. id Tech 5 is sweet, and Rage looks pretty good so far, but I haven't seen enough to make much of an opinion.

Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays...Doom 3 was a major let down in every way except graphics...their latest game Wolfenstein was a poor addition to the series. Really the only good game they've released in the last decade was RTCW. They have released more mediocrity than quality.

And again.

Quake 4 and Quake Wars and the latest Wolfenstein were not made by ID.

I think you need to check your facts on the games ID made, and those they own the IP.

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#11 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

They've made one game since RTCW, which was Doom 3, and it was a great game. It wasn't spectacular like everyone was hoping, but it was still great. everyone is drooling because they have an amazing track record of quality games. id Tech 5 is sweet, and Rage looks pretty good so far, but I haven't seen enough to make much of an opinion.

Snagal123

Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays...Doom 3 was a major let down in every way except graphics...their latest game Wolfenstein was a poor addition to the series. Really the only good game they've released in the last decade was RTCW. They have released more mediocrity than quality.

And again.

Quake 4 and Quake Wars were not made by ID.

I think you need to check your facts on the games ID made, and those they own the IP.

They were heavily involved. That's like saying Valve didn't make any of the Left 4 Dead games.
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#12 MRBUCKMASTER
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im not interested in it one bit.
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"] Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays.

They did not make Quake 4 or Quake Wars, maybe you should do some research before posting about them.
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#14 Silenthps
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I'm not seeing what all this hype about rage is. the graphics are good but other than that I haven't really been impressed.
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#15 Crasical
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When I watched gameplay of it, it turned me straight off. The weird thing is, i can't pin-point the reason why...

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#16 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"] Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays.

They did not make Quake 4 or Quake Wars, maybe you should do some research before posting about them.

Not gonna keep repeating myself. Choose a different argument besides constantly telling me they are lazier and slower than Blizzard.
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#17 organic_machine
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EDIT: Correction, they didn't specifically make Quake 4 or Quake Wars but they were more than involved in them.

IAMSERIAL

So what if they were involved? They did not develop the game. Stop trying to make id sound worse than they are. They've developed 2 games in the last decade, and they both were great.

I have no doubt Rage will be great too.

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#18 Snagal123
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

And again.

Quake 4 and Quake Wars were not made by ID.

I think you need to check your facts on the games ID made, and those they own the IP.

IAMSERIAL

They were heavily involved. That's like saying Valve didn't make any of the Left 4 Dead games.

The games were not developed by them. They were made by Raven and Splash Damage.

ID has made, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Doom 2, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Doom 3 and now Rage, in that order.

This is why Carmack said at least years Quake Con that they would bring their IPs back inhouse because the quality went down when they licensed them out.

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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"] Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays.

They did not make Quake 4 or Quake Wars, maybe you should do some research before posting about them.

Not gonna keep repeating myself. Choose a different argument besides constantly telling me they are lazier and slower than Blizzard.

Pick another argument? I have to have something to argue first. You can't seem to grasp they did not make those games.
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#20 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]

EDIT: Correction, they didn't specifically make Quake 4 or Quake Wars but they were more than involved in them.

organic_machine

So what if they were involved? They did not develop the game. Stop trying to make id sound worse than they are. They've developed 2 games in the last decade, and they both were great.

I have no doubt Rage will be great too.

They were both forgettable and average. What the hell do you mean so what if they were involved? If they ok'd those games then they basically would've made the same game.
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#21 zaibutzu
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Lol do we have another Duke Nukem Forever on our hands....
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#22 Gxgear
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Just reminds me of Borderlands.

IAMSERIAL

Same here.

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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

They've made one game since RTCW, which was Doom 3, and it was a great game. It wasn't spectacular like everyone was hoping, but it was still great. everyone is drooling because they have an amazing track record of quality games. id Tech 5 is sweet, and Rage looks pretty good so far, but I haven't seen enough to make much of an opinion.

Snagal123

Their track record has turned to crap for the last decade, quit overrating them. Quake 4 and Quake Wars were just awful and games that nobody plays...Doom 3 was a major let down in every way except graphics...their latest game Wolfenstein was a poor addition to the series. Really the only good game they've released in the last decade was RTCW. They have released more mediocrity than quality.

And again.

Quake 4 and Quake Wars and the latest Wolfenstein were not made by ID.

I think you need to check your facts on the games ID made, and those they own the IP.

However ID Software's last game was Doom 3 which was .... not so good. They were overshadowed by Crytek (Farcry engine) and Valve (Source engine).
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#24 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] They did not make Quake 4 or Quake Wars, maybe you should do some research before posting about them.

Not gonna keep repeating myself. Choose a different argument besides constantly telling me they are lazier and slower than Blizzard.

Pick another argument? I have to have something to argue first. You can't seem to grasp they did not make those games.

You have absolutely no argument here.
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#25 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]

EDIT: Correction, they didn't specifically make Quake 4 or Quake Wars but they were more than involved in them.

IAMSERIAL

So what if they were involved? They did not develop the game. Stop trying to make id sound worse than they are. They've developed 2 games in the last decade, and they both were great.

I have no doubt Rage will be great too.

They were both forgettable and average. What the hell do you mean so what if they were involved? If they ok'd those games then they basically would've made the same game.

You have no idea what goes on in development, do you?

It's not ids job to "OK" the game if they think it's good enough. They liscenced the franchises out for other developers to work on. Simple as that.

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#26 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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I've never liked an id singleplayer game and I don't think I'm about to start with Rage. Although they're adding these different parts to it, the meat of it looks to be another one of those id run n gun shooters. As long as that's the primary focus I'll remain uninterested.

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#27 DarkLink77
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I'm VERY interested in RAGE. I loved DOOM 3, and id makes great games. What's not to like?

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I agree, I want Doom 4. Not Rage.
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#29 firefluff3
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Thats how I feel

WOW, 60FPS?? I didnt know any of the cod's ran at 60fps until a couple of weeks ago on a sw thread. The graphics look sweet but the car combat, the little mini rc car and just the general gameplay isn't appealing.

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#30 Sollet
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I agree, I want Doom 4. Not Rage. Stevo_the_gamer
and this time make it actually scary :P

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Game looks good. Don't see the huge thing about the Tech though. it's good but i think its the artstyle that makes it.
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#32 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"] Not gonna keep repeating myself. Choose a different argument besides constantly telling me they are lazier and slower than Blizzard.

Pick another argument? I have to have something to argue first. You can't seem to grasp they did not make those games.

You have absolutely no argument here.

And you do? You claimed they made games they didn't. What is there to argue? I have already proved my point, just waiting for you to actually provide me with something to discuss.
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#33 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

So what if they were involved? They did not develop the game. Stop trying to make id sound worse than they are. They've developed 2 games in the last decade, and they both were great.

I have no doubt Rage will be great too.

organic_machine

They were both forgettable and average. What the hell do you mean so what if they were involved? If they ok'd those games then they basically would've made the same game.

You have no idea what goes on in development, do you?

It's not ids job to "OK" the game if they think it's good enough. They liscenced the franchises out for other developers to work on. Simple as that.

So basically what you're saying is that id software wouldn't care how terrible their games are as long as someone made them. Now all of a sudden they care and now they're making them themselves?
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"] Not gonna keep repeating myself. Choose a different argument besides constantly telling me they are lazier and slower than Blizzard.IAMSERIAL
Pick another argument? I have to have something to argue first. You can't seem to grasp they did not make those games.

You have absolutely no argument here.

He has a very good and legit argument here....

ID did not make Quake4 or Quake Wars... he is 100% correct. As Carmack said.. They will NOT BE letting others make games with there names anymore BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF THEM WENT WAY DOWN WHEN THEY LET OTHERS MAKE THEM.

You where trying to say that ID Carmack and his crew made Quake4 and Quake Wars.. THOSE ARE NOT GAMES THEY MADE.. They let OUT OF HOUSE people develope those games, they didnt do them.

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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Pick another argument? I have to have something to argue first. You can't seem to grasp they did not make those games. kozzy1234

You have absolutely no argument here.

He has a very good and legit argument here....

ID did not making Quake4 or Quake Wars... he is 100% correct. As Carmack said.. They will NOT BE letting others make games with there names anymore BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF THEM WENT WAY DOWN WHEN THEY LET OTHERS MAKE THEM.

Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.
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As Carmack said.. They will NOT BE letting others make games with there names anymore BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF THEM WENT WAY DOWN WHEN THEY LET OTHERS MAKE THEM.

kozzy1234

I never knew he said that. Damn I thought he was awesome before, but now he is just Epic! :P. He is right though, they quality does go down when someone gets their hands on ID's franchises.

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I agree, I want Doom 4. Not Rage. Stevo_the_gamer
What's the matter with you?! :P
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#38 Snagal123
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Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.IAMSERIAL

So you don't like ID games, we get it.

Don't buy Rage or any other game they make, problem solved.

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#39 organic_machine
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So basically what you're saying is that id software wouldn't care how terrible their games are as long as someone made them. Now all of a sudden they care and now they're making them themselves? IAMSERIAL

Not exactly. Let me explain:

id felt like they had too many franshises and not enough man power to make the sequels they wanted to make.

So id liscenced out the Quake franchise for other companies to make games.

The reason id did this was because they wanted to work on a new IP, but still at the same time not forget about their old ones.

So they were working on Rage and id Tech 5 when Quake 4 and Quake Wars came out.

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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"] You have absolutely no argument here. IAMSERIAL

He has a very good and legit argument here....

ID did not making Quake4 or Quake Wars... he is 100% correct. As Carmack said.. They will NOT BE letting others make games with there names anymore BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF THEM WENT WAY DOWN WHEN THEY LET OTHERS MAKE THEM.

Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.

If there is another Doom, Quake or WOlfenstien game it will be done by ID from now on. Why? Because they they let others use there game names the games suck... they are going to be making all there games themselves again to assure the quality is up to there standards.

Instead of starting a bunch of new IP's they are going to work on RAGE and there other game faranchies.. MAKING the games themselves and not letting outside people make them.

If we see another Doom or Quake game in teh future, my bet is that its ALOT better then the last few quake games where.

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Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.IAMSERIAL
You are making no sense. At all.
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#42 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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Yep, I couldn't care less about Rage, it doesn't interest me in the slightest.

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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.McStrongfast
You are making no sense. At all.

I'm just saying Doom 3 was terrible and id themselves made that one.
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#44 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.IAMSERIAL
You are making no sense. At all.

I'm just saying Doom 3 was terrible and id themselves made that one.

One question.. did you play Doom3 on PC or console?
I wasnt to huge on Doom3, but it was far from Terrible. Was a pretty good game on PC, just wasnt one of my favorites from them.

Compare the quality of Doom3 and Quake2 to Quake4 and its not even close. You can tell some others made Quake4 and not the original team.

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#46 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.IAMSERIAL
You are making no sense. At all.

I'm just saying Doom 3 was terrible and id themselves made that one.

8.5. It got an 8.5 here. It is considered a "great" game by SW.

You might not have liked it, and hell even I had issues with it. But the game was of high quality, that cannot be denied.

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#47 GojiMaster
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The Iphone4 game is making me less than interested in Rage.

The console versions looked good so far, but I don't like the fact that they are diverting resources into a far inferior Iphone4 version that will probably sell for less than $10.

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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"][QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]Sooooo I guess nobody will be making a Doom game anymore...including id software.IAMSERIAL
You are making no sense. At all.

I'm just saying Doom 3 was terrible and id themselves made that one.

I stand by my previous reply.
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#49 goblaa
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Can't say I'm interested in yet another shooter...

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#50 Shad0ki11
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I'm not interested at all.