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Ill play the single player on PC, but MP will be on my 360 with my friends. I will however play MP on PC sometimes aswell, im doing the same thing right now with Bad Company 2. So im getting both versions PC & 360.
First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.deadlyabdus123
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
It disgusts me to say this but even though I have a pretty decent 480gtx setup,Yeah, compulsory "I have a gaming PC" before stating anything anti-PC.
I will be forced to get the ps3 version because I cannot trust the MP experience on PC. First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete. I want a wide variety of people to play with, not just hardcore ones. PS3 owners are more likely to have the same control although other controllers do exist for it.
You don't need expensive high-end gaming mouses or keyboards, I top score a lot and I just use cheap Dell and Phillips mouses and keyboards.And there are a mixture of good people and bad people on PC just look at public games and competitive games.
2nd, i dont trust that it will sell the most, meaning a couple years down the line, lobbys wont be as full. I did the same for CODand any other MP centric multiplat game.
The thing is, would anyone still be playing any multiplatform PS3 game online when the PS4 or PS5 arrives?
In fact, i hope to god many of my fav titles dont come with MP or come with crappy MP so i dont have to purchase it for my ps3 and can get much better visuals on my PC. Looking at the visuals on BF3 on fallon for ps3 made me sick, I spat at the TV. I was expecting a new god but even crysis 2 looks better on consoles. That being said, I will somehow find a way to play the single player on PC so I can enjoy some sort of DX11 glory.
Well of course, you do know that Battlefield 3 is being developed for PCs first and consoles second?
deadlyabdus123
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.edidili
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.deadlyabdus123
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022So? High-end mouses and keyboards mean nothing, I stomp loads of people with gaming equipment with very basic Dell and Phillips mouse and keyboards.
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.edidili
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
Playing an FPS with some crappy microsoft or budget mouse compared to a nice, high DPI laser mouse is a totally different experiance. The Logitech MX518 is $40 and it completely changed my gaming experiance.
Im pro-pc dude, it disgusts me that ill be forced to get the PS3 version, and ur logic doesent sway me. Im glad DICE is taking PC route first, and as for play logs, ps4 would take at least a year or two and a price drop before people really buy them. First adopters make me sick.[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]It disgusts me to say this but even though I have a pretty decent 480gtx setup,
Yeah, compulsory "I have a gaming PC" before stating anything anti-PC.
I will be forced to get the ps3 version because I cannot trust the MP experience on PC. First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete. I want a wide variety of people to play with, not just hardcore ones. PS3 owners are more likely to have the same control although other controllers do exist for it.
You don't need expensive high-end gaming mouses or keyboards, I top score a lot and I just use cheap Dell and Phillips mouses and keyboards.And there are a mixture of good people and bad people on PC just look at public games and competitive games.
2nd, i dont trust that it will sell the most, meaning a couple years down the line, lobbys wont be as full. I did the same for CODand any other MP centric multiplat game.
The thing is, would anyone still be playing any multiplatform PS3 game online when the PS4 or PS5 arrives?
In fact, i hope to god many of my fav titles dont come with MP or come with crappy MP so i dont have to purchase it for my ps3 and can get much better visuals on my PC. Looking at the visuals on BF3 on fallon for ps3 made me sick, I spat at the TV. I was expecting a new god but even crysis 2 looks better on consoles. That being said, I will somehow find a way to play the single player on PC so I can enjoy some sort of DX11 glory.
Well of course, you do know that Battlefield 3 is being developed for PCs first and consoles second?
Vesica_Prime
[QUOTE="edidili"]
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.Wasdie
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
Playing an FPS with some crappy microsoft or budget mouse compared to a nice, high DPI laser mouse is a totally different experiance. The Logitech MX518 is $40 and it completely changed my gaming experiance.
'Gaming mice' may make some actions smoother, but that doesn't mean you can't dominate with an ordinary mouse. I use to use a Basic MS optical mouse for COD4, AND play on 250 ping servers (not sure why), if I set out to win, I did.So long as you're using a relatively decent high DPi mouse, then you should be fine. If you need to, just adjust the mouse sensitivity. So long as you are using an optical/laser mouse, I doubt the difference will be anything substantial when translated into gameplay.
[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.deadlyabdus123
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022but what setups seriously. You think there are mouses out there that help you autokill everyone on sight? I'm using a cheap one at the moment and I don't have any problem with it. It looks to me like you want to play a shooter with autoaim.
I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"][QUOTE="edidili"]
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
edidili
but what setups seriously. You think there are mouses out there that help you autokill everyone on sight? I'm using a cheap one at the moment and I don't have any problem with it. It looks to me like you want to play a shooter with autoaim.
um i owned in all games, try playing a game of fear with all the hacks that the server had, its the fastest paced twitchest game I ever played. i say it helped make sure I own at everything. In fact when i got a ps3, i failed hard using the controller, now im back on top after a steep learning curve but I started using the FRAG FX for ps3 before it broke (mouse controller combo) and I owned everyone. Inputs matter dude, they matter alot.[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"] I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022deadlyabdus123
but what setups seriously. You think there are mouses out there that help you autokill everyone on sight? I'm using a cheap one at the moment and I don't have any problem with it. It looks to me like you want to play a shooter with autoaim.
um i owned in all games, try playing a game of fear with all the hacks that the server had, its the fastest paced twitchest game I ever played. i say it helped make sure I own at everything. In fact when i got a ps3, i failed hard using the controller, now im back on top after a steep learning curve but I started using the FRAG FX for ps3 before it broke (mouse controller combo) and I owned everyone. Inputs matter dude, they matter alot. If this guy keeps goign the way he is, we may get some sig worthy quotes out of him.:lol: looks like some people just aren't good enough for PC gaming. C_Rule
Eh, experiences differ you know... Personally I find ass kicking much easier to do in CSS than BO (PS3).
If I had a decent enough PC I would get BF3 for it... Bigger maps, more players and DAT GRAPHICS heavily outweighs the disadvantages of the PC. Alas I'll have to scrape by on my PS3 :P
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]but I started using the FRAG FX for ps3 before it broke (mouse controller combo) and I owned everyone. Inputs matter dude, they matter alot. edidili
They do when you compare a controller with a mouse but not when you compare a mouse with another mouse.
go up and look at the MOD'S reply to my thread, DPI matters dude.[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]but I started using the FRAG FX for ps3 before it broke (mouse controller combo) and I owned everyone. Inputs matter dude, they matter alot. deadlyabdus123
They do when you compare a controller with a mouse but not when you compare a mouse with another mouse.
go up and look at the MOD'S reply to my thread, DPI matters dude. Ooh, there we go. No disrespect to Wasdie or what he said, but, I think it's funny when people assume forum moderators are more knowledgeable than other users.If I get the PC version, I'm hoping to play with some people from SW - so that I'm not judged too harshly for sucking :P
I really doubt my console friends get this game, and if they do it'll be because I talked them into it. Probably should get a better mouse, now that I think about it. I dived deep into the recesses of my closet to find the old clunker I'm using now.
[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"] I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022deadlyabdus123
but what setups seriously. You think there are mouses out there that help you autokill everyone on sight? I'm using a cheap one at the moment and I don't have any problem with it. It looks to me like you want to play a shooter with autoaim.
um i owned in all games, try playing a game of fear with all the hacks that the server had, its the fastest paced twitchest game I ever played. i say it helped make sure I own at everything. In fact when i got a ps3, i failed hard using the controller, now im back on top after a steep learning curve but I started using the FRAG FX for ps3 before it broke (mouse controller combo) and I owned everyone. Inputs matter dude, they matter alot. You are making no sense.First of all, you'd be crazy to buy a console version of BF3 if you own a gaming rig.
Second of all, you're crazy if you own a gaming rig but stick to a crappy M/KB.... That's literally the same as buying a top of the line audio system and using it with your old 30 watt speakers...
[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]but I started using the FRAG FX for ps3 before it broke (mouse controller combo) and I owned everyone. Inputs matter dude, they matter alot. deadlyabdus123
They do when you compare a controller with a mouse but not when you compare a mouse with another mouse.
go up and look at the MOD'S reply to my thread, DPI matters dude. It's all on your practice, I was better at shooters back in the late 90's early '00 on a ball mouse than I am now on these fancy new 5700dpi, 1ms poll, laser mice. If you don't play enough on the control device, you're not going to be good, I played 8 hours a day back in the Q3A days, I play hardly any shooters anymore.[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"][QUOTE="edidili"]go up and look at the MOD'S reply to my thread, DPI matters dude. Ooh, there we go. No disrespect to Wasdie or what he said, but, I think it's funny when people assume forum moderators are more knowledgeable than other users.They do when you compare a controller with a mouse but not when you compare a mouse with another mouse.
C_Rule
DPI matters to a certain degree. 1800 is slightly too slow for me at 1920*1080 while 3600 is way too fast. Another thing of importance is polling. most modern gaming mice support 1000 hz polling which means they have a 1ms delay, the usb port on the other hand is natively 125 hz which equals 8 ms, some mice however (at least Razer Deathadder and Logitech G9X) has increase the polling through their software.
Not I'm sure you'll ever notice the difference between 1 and 8 ms, especially considering how far ahead it is of wireless controllers.
It disgusts me to say this but even though I have a pretty decent 480gtx setup, I will be forced to get the ps3 version because I cannot trust the MP experience on PC. First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete. I want a wide variety of people to play with, not just hardcore ones. PS3 owners are more likely to have the same control although other controllers do exist for it. 2nd, i dont trust that it will sell the most, meaning a couple years down the line, lobbys wont be as full. I did the same for CODand any other MP centric multiplat game. In fact, i hope to god many of my fav titles dont come with MP or come with crappy MP so i dont have to purchase it for my ps3 and can get much better visuals on my PC. Looking at the visuals on BF3 on fallon for ps3 made me sick, I spat at the TV. I was expecting a new god but even crysis 2 looks better on consoles. That being said, I will somehow find a way to play the single player on PC so I can enjoy some sort of DX11 glory. deadlyabdus123
thats one of the worse excuses ive read to date here on system wars. i'll never buy a game on a console that i can buy on my pc. i fair very well in pc Mp games. maybe you're just not good at such games and you're blaming it on others abilities and not just their equipment.
I'm not sure if my machine counts as high-end or not. I currently have an i5 760, 2xGTX 460, and 8GB of RAM - it's decent-ish, but not high-end like a tri-SLI setup or a Sandy Bridge i7. I'm getting the PS3 and PC versions, but likely most of my play time will be on PS3.
I do agree that I don't really trust the MP experience as much on PC. Once you can execute arbitrary code, the idea of security goes out the window. Sadly, I'm not sure I trust the PS3 either anymore in that regard.
does anyone find it akward that he has this supposed "gtx480 setup" but can seem to acquire a gaming mouse? you can get a very good one for around $30. he had money to buy an fxg adpator for his ps3 but cant seem to get a gaming mouse for his pc? ya im calling bs on this one
what pc gaming elitists has a gaming rig w/o a good m/k anyway?
[QUOTE="edidili"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.deadlyabdus123
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
I didnt start FPS on consoles till COD4, all other MP experiences, FEAR, battlefield 2, etc, i used mouses. I been a PC gamer for years till i got a ps3. Im really good at it, i just do not trust the setups that people have. like people who have stuff like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146022 Look, your talking crap in all honesty. The mouse arguement was valid back when 50% had lazer mice, 50% had ball Mice.... ive got a 2000 dpi mouse... anything higher makes me WORSE since I cant deal with the stupid ammount of sensitivity. Mouse is no excuse, your just not as good as some people.im not a pc gaming elitist, i got the gtx480 simply cause i thought crysis 2 was gonna be a performance beast when coming out. I am however, a graphics whore.does anyone find it akward that he has this supposed "gtx480 setup" but can seem to acquire a gaming mouse? you can get a very good one for around $30. he had money to buy an fxg adpator for his ps3 but cant seem to get a gaming mouse for his pc? ya im calling bs on this one
what pc gaming elitists has a gaming rig w/o a good m/k anyway?
Rage010101
[QUOTE="Rage010101"]im not a pc gaming elitist, i got the gtx480 simply cause i thought crysis 2 was gonna be a performance beast when coming out. I am however, a graphics whore. Sounds like you should have just gotten a Blu-Ray player...does anyone find it akward that he has this supposed "gtx480 setup" but can seem to acquire a gaming mouse? you can get a very good one for around $30. he had money to buy an fxg adpator for his ps3 but cant seem to get a gaming mouse for his pc? ya im calling bs on this one
what pc gaming elitists has a gaming rig w/o a good m/k anyway?
deadlyabdus123
actually ive never played MP since i got my ps3, i was a beast at mp when i did have it, but now im not sure that I can trust playing them with all the stuff out there. So your argument is flawed, me having an excuse would be me trying out MP on pc to begin with, which i havnt since my ps3. ALSO my pc is currently connected to a 30 in hdtv so its hard for me to play with it so close to my face on a mouse.Look, your talking crap in all honesty. The mouse arguement was valid back when 50% had lazer mice, 50% had ball Mice.... ive got a 2000 dpi mouse... anything higher makes me WORSE since I cant deal with the stupid ammount of sensitivity. Mouse is no excuse, your just not as good as some people.
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What makes his argument entirely stupid, contradictory, nullified nonsense is that he is aware of peripherals such as the FragFX for the PS3. Yet for some reason has no problem with this and actually even went as far as to purchase one himself.does anyone find it akward that he has this supposed "gtx480 setup" but can seem to acquire a gaming mouse? you can get a very good one for around $30. he had money to buy an fxg adpator for his ps3 but cant seem to get a gaming mouse for his pc? ya im calling bs on this one
what pc gaming elitists has a gaming rig w/o a good m/k anyway?
Rage010101
yea, i'm getting it on the 360, decision is strictly community based, that's where all my friends will be playing so it's really a no-brainer.
What makes his argument entirely stupid, contradictory, nullified nonsense is that he is aware of peripherals such as the FragFX for the PS3. Yet for some reason has no problem with this and actually even went as far as to purchase one himself..[QUOTE="Rage010101"]
does anyone find it akward that he has this supposed "gtx480 setup" but can seem to acquire a gaming mouse? you can get a very good one for around $30. he had money to buy an fxg adpator for his ps3 but cant seem to get a gaming mouse for his pc? ya im calling bs on this one
what pc gaming elitists has a gaming rig w/o a good m/k anyway?
McStrongfast
Well he just wants to use a kb/m when everybody else is using a controller. He can't do that in the PC version.
First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.
I pwn people online with my cheap $20 kb/m bundle.Gaming mice have extra dpi which may or may not boost gaming skill.It all depends on preference.
I want a wide variety of people to play with, not just hardcore ones. PS3 owners are more likely to have the same control although other controllers do exist for it.
You want variety,and yet you will play on PS3,where everyone will have the same stuff.PC obviously has more variety so I dunno what you are saying.
2nd, i dont trust that it will sell the most, meaning a couple years down the line, lobbys wont be as full. I did the same for CODand any other MP centric multiplat game.
False.PC MP games usually last longer than console games.Many PC gamers still play BF2.Console games are abandoned whenever the next big title arrives.
I was expecting a new god but even crysis 2 looks better on consoles.
Not sure if serious.
deadlyabdus123
And if you don't mind...Care to post a few pics of your gaming rig?
You think EXPENSIVE MICE make up for lack of skill?
Rofl gaming mice are for chumps pay 7 bucks for a cheap USB mouse and it's the same thing.
[QUOTE="edidili"]
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.Wasdie
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
Playing an FPS with some crappy microsoft or budget mouse compared to a nice, high DPI laser mouse is a totally different experiance. The Logitech MX518 is $40 and it completely changed my gaming experiance.
This!
Since my first MX518 I've never gone to any other mouse and will not anytime soon. I have one in every gaming PC in my household (3), and I have 2 more in my closet for back up, if this one ever fails. Thing is, these things are durable, reliable, and accurate!
actually ive never played MP since i got my ps3, i was a beast at mp when i did have it, but now im not sure that I can trust playing them with all the stuff out there. So your argument is flawed, me having an excuse would be me trying out MP on pc to begin with, which i havnt since my ps3. ALSO my pc is currently connected to a 30 in hdtv so its hard for me to play with it so close to my face on a mouse. Then what the hell is the point in this thread? your basically saying "I dont think il play as good as other people, but instead of blaming my lack of experiance and familiarity with a controller, I will blame PC gamers for having unfair hardware" ... what the....Look, your talking crap in all honesty. The mouse arguement was valid back when 50% had lazer mice, 50% had ball Mice.... ive got a 2000 dpi mouse... anything higher makes me WORSE since I cant deal with the stupid ammount of sensitivity. Mouse is no excuse, your just not as good as some people.
[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]Buying the console version of a game for the console community? Lol, that makes sense. As opposed to playing with people who judge you for the platform you game on? I'd prefer my friends too.yea, i'm getting it on the 360, decision is strictly community based, that's where all my friends will be playing so it's really a no-brainer.
C_Rule
[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]Buying the console version of a game for the console community? Lol, that makes sense. As opposed to playing with people who judge you for the platform you game on? I'd prefer my friends too. Freinds is a valid point, but stop playing the victim card. Xbox gamers take the **** of PC gamers just as much.yea, i'm getting it on the 360, decision is strictly community based, that's where all my friends will be playing so it's really a no-brainer.
lowe0
[QUOTE="edidili"]
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]First, pc gamers tend to be more hardcore and have crazy mouses with precision aiming, my cheap Logitech cannot compete.Wasdie
Wth are you talking about? How does mouse make a difference. It seams to me you're not good at shooters in PC since they require a bit more accuracy and reflexes and you're just blaming your mouse.
Playing an FPS with some crappy microsoft or budget mouse compared to a nice, high DPI laser mouse is a totally different experiance. The Logitech MX518 is $40 and it completely changed my gaming experiance.
I own a Logitech MX 518 and even though the mouse is much easier on the hand than my previous basic Microsoft mouse, my performance hasn't changed. The mouse only makes a key difference when it comes to using the extra mouse buttons for any commands u dont wanna use the keyboard for. Aside from that... I was a beast in BF2 and CoD4 with the basic mouse so saying there's a difference is a matter of opinion.Please Log In to post.
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