Anyone kinda worried about the ps4 version of Fallout 4?

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#1 Shinobishyguy
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Maybe I'm just being paranoid but bethesda games don't exactly have the best track record on sony consoles. Hell the ps3 version of skyrim still has crashing issues. Plus all the promo material has been shown on Xbone so I dunno.

That being said the ps4 is a different beast compared to the ps3 and it seems like devs don't have the same issue porting their games over so maybe I'm worrying over nothing

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#2 jg4xchamp
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the PS3 was a development nightmare vs the PS4 which is using similar shit to the Xbox One and modern PCs with the x86 stuff. Microsoft from my understanding still provides better development tools, but tools were the never the issue for Bethesda (I mean not completely). The PS3 was a pain in the ass in comparison to how easy it was to turn a PC game into a 360 game.

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#3  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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Yes because it has a Xbox marketing deal and they will no doubt work overtime to make the gimped hardware on par with PS4. Not surprisingly Arkham Knight runs great on PS4 despite all the FUD about PS4 struggling with open world games.

I don't care about Fallout so I won't buy it either way, but PS4 owners that are should be cautious. Bethesda is not known for quality control.

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#4  Edited By Krelian-co
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it was becuase skyrim is a very cpu bound game, even on pc, and the ps3 "teh power of teh cell" even if it was powerful it was terrible to code for. Ps4 is very code friendly, even more so than the xbone this time since it doesn't have the esram, if anything worry about the xbone performance, the tiny bandwith of the ram will be horrible for open world games.

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#5 CinematicGalore
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And the marketing conspiracies begin.

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#6 bforrester420
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Considering the PS4 architecture more closely resembles a PC, no worries for me.

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#7 StrongBlackVine
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@cinematicgalore:

Unity was a complete mess on PS4 at launch and now The Witcher 3 has a ridiculous design decision that locks the framerate at 20fps when any effects are going on. I don't think it is a conspiracy that the version with marketing deal get more attention than the others do. And I do think devs spend more time trying to make the Xbox One version acceptable.

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#8  Edited By SolidTy
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@Shinobishyguy: No, not at all.

Unlike the PS2 and PS3, the PS4 is actually incredibly friendly to use this time around and has more juice under the hood than the Xbone.

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#9 LadyBlue
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None, whatsoever.

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@Shinobishyguy: PS3 had the CELL processor, the PS4 is easier to develop. Also it's going to be a buggy mess on both platforms. So don't worry :D

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#11 CinematicGalore
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@cinematicgalore:

Unity was a complete mess on PS4 at launch and now The Witcher 3 has a ridiculous design decision that locks the framerate at 20fps when any effects are going on. I don't think it is a conspiracy that the version with marketing deal get more attention than the others do. And I do think devs spend more time trying to make the Xbox One version acceptable.

Paranoid.

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#12 StrongBlackVine
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The Witcher 3 makes me say yes. And CD Projekt Red was supposed to be competent.

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#13 Bigboi500
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Yep. Getting the Xbone version for free Fallout 3 and faster mods, plus Bethesda's track record is just better with Microsoft than the Playstation brand in general.

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#14 lostrib
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Hopefully Sony will allow mods to be available for the PS4

The skyrim problems on PS3 probably had to do with the PS3

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#15  Edited By ProtossX
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@Shinobishyguy: OP the xbox one is so underpowered compared to the ps4 that it's literally impossible for any game to run worse on the ps4 unless the dev purposely is doing shady stuff on the side..

GDR5 Ram check, 2x as many shaders, was putting tons of more foliage on the screen in dying light and gta 5, and project cars that one different resolution one was blurry

Why would you worry about this dude?

Fallout 4 is in the bag, its gonna run the best on the ps4 for consolites. If i was the leader of XBOX fallout 4 woulda been what I bought with all that minecraft / recore / tomb raider money, I would have even settled on timed deal. I bet Mattrick woulda pulled something like that off too guy knew the third party big hitters were gonna be and locked them down.

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#16 Heil68
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@jg4xchamp said:

the PS3 was a development nightmare vs the PS4 which is using similar shit to the Xbox One and modern PCs with the x86 stuff. Microsoft from my understanding still provides better development tools, but tools were the never the issue for Bethesda (I mean not completely). The PS3 was a pain in the ass in comparison to how easy it was to turn a PC game into a 360 game.

Yup. The Pc architecture will help ensure a much better go this time around.

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#17 A-new-Guardian
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Bethesda and MS have a good relationship that goes back to original xbox which they talked about in their own conference.

there is no doubt that more effort and polish will go to the xbox one.

the game will be buggy and crash on release and reviewers will not say anything about it. its acceptable because its fallout and bethesda.

as long as they keep reusing the same engine to save on development costs, every game on that engine will suffer.

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#18  Edited By princeofshapeir
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Bethesda games on consoles, lol

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#19 ProtossX
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@a-new-guardian said:

Bethesda and MS have a good relationship that goes back to original xbox which they talked about in their own conference.

there is no doubt that more effort and polish will go to the xbox one.

the game will be buggy and crash on release and reviewers will not say anything about it. its acceptable because its fallout and bethesda.

as long as they keep reusing the same engine to save on development costs, every game on that engine will suffer.

What about call of duty ghosts that was 1080p on ps4 and like 720p on xb1 when they were on stage with them and had history with them too.

You dunno what you're talking about they had deal with activision and activision did all they could on both the platforms.

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@Bigboi500 said:

Yep. Getting the Xbone version for free Fallout 3 and faster mods, plus Bethesda's track record is just better with Microsoft than the Playstation brand in general.

This is honestly one of the most realistic things said here, Bethesda and Xbox pretty much go hand in hand, the likelihood that the experience and what is going to be offered on the Xbox One version will be better is high.

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#21  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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If I play t it'll just be on pc, so no, not really. heavily modded at that just so it's playable in the first place.

Bethesda games are awful as is, but they're downright deplorable experiences on consoles.

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#22 kenakuma
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@Shinobishyguy said:

That being said the ps4 is a different beast compared to the ps3 and it seems like devs don't have the same issue porting their games over so maybe I'm worrying over nothing

This is why I'm not worried. Same goes for Street Fighter V.

Street Fighter 4 ran worse on PS3, as did MVC3, so I was worried about SFV originally. But given that the PS4 IS a different machine altogether and Capcom is more focused on development for the PS4 given it's exclusivity, I'm not worried for that game either.

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#23 locopatho
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While I enjoy my PS4 greatly, I simply DO NOT TRUST open world games on it. Not after how crap the PS3 was, and (particularly) how Sony and their fanboys pretended it was on par with 360. It fucking wasn't, anywhere near it.

I'll be getting FO4 on PC, thanks!

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I'll be playing it on PC. Would never prefer to play a Bethesda game on a console.

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Not really, no. Fallout 4 will probably be 900p on the other system and I avoid that when I can.

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#26 scoots9
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I'm sure it will be terrible, like every console version of every Bethesda game.

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#27  Edited By SolidTy
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@locopatho said:

While I enjoy my PS4 greatly, I simply DO NOT TRUST open world games on it. Not after how crap the PS3 was, and (particularly) how Sony and their fanboys pretended it was on par with 360. It fucking wasn't, anywhere near it.

I'll be getting FO4 on PC, thanks!

Open World?

Exclusive: Infamous Second Son

Multiplat: Batman Arkham Knight Amigo.

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#28 Seabas989
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Ditching teh cell was Sony's best decision this gen.

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My expectations are low, even with mods.

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#30 LadyBlue
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@Dire_Weasel said:

Not really, no. Fallout 4 will probably be 900p on the other system and I avoid that when I can.

They said it's going to be 1080P@30 FPS on both systems. Though, there's no reason for it not to run better on ps4, being the stronger out of the two. Hopefully it performs well on both systems.

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@Shinobishyguy:

Nope not worried at al,l because i have an Xbox One and thats the version i reserved...LOL !!!

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@StrongBlackVine said:

The Witcher 3 makes me say yes. And CD Projekt Red was supposed to be competent.

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The PS4 has a weaker cpu than even the PS3. Open world games such as FO4 are cpu intensive. CPU bound games this gen so far have typically looked equal on both consoles, with them performing better on the XB1. Since FO4 will be 1080p and 30fps on both consoles, choosing the XB1 version is really a no brainer.

Not to mention free FO3, and mods to go along with the XB1 version.

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#34  Edited By ProtossX
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@babyjoker1221 said:

The PS4 has a weaker cpu than even the PS3. Open world games such as FO4 are cpu intensive. CPU bound games this gen so far have typically looked equal on both consoles, with them performing better on the XB1. Since FO4 will be 1080p and 30fps on both consoles, choosing the XB1 version is really a no brainer.

Not to mention free FO3, and mods to go along with the XB1 version.

Dead rising 3 is open world and drops frames when i'm fighting zombies on xbox one. The xb1 can't handle open worlds like that or witcher either it just can't handle these games. at all look at batman it can't handle that open world at 1080p either just look at batman basically OP.

The ps4 could run that game better no problem because of better ram and gpu, and so can pc's.

Nobody care fallout 3 is 5 dollars at gamestop or steam giving away for free is pointless and it's some long ass download code that will take forever from xbox,

Mods people are saying are timed so xbox one just beta test mods and ps4 gets the real version or whatever from what i heard

This isn't like the ps3/xb360 THESE are new systems the ps4 is the most powerful console ever made and has pc architecture it's nothing like the cell or the ps3 setup

PS4 / XB1 are basically PC's with same setup and one has better gpu and ram you do the math on which version is gonna run better it's not hard like this isn't about how skyrim ran on ps3 or whatever that system is dead this is new generation entirely and microsoft didn't even make any big deals with them didn't here the game was exclusive or anything they too busy buying minecraft or some trash.

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#35 kinectthedots
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Sure, I could believe that.

Why else would FO4 come out looking like a console game at the end of last generation if the devs weren't trying to accommodate a game than can shine on xbone's hardware when 2015 open world games like Ass Creed Unity, The Witcher 3 and Star Wars Battlefront already demolish it.

That dog looks worse than the one from Titan Fall about the beginning of the generation. Hell open world cross gen MGS V crushed FO4.

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#36 Mr_Huggles_dog
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No, b/c regardless of whatever mod plan MS has with FO4.....you're suppose to get TES and Fallout games on PC.

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#37  Edited By babyjoker1221
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@ProtossX: lmao! Keep up the good fight there buddy.

DR3 isn't even available on PS4, so any comparison your trying to make there fails horribly.

FO3 isn't available on PS4, and won't be any time soon, so again.... Your logic fails.

"What you heard"? Mods haven't been confirmed for the PS4, and most likely won't be. Better luck next time champ.

While these are new consoles that are much more similar to pc's, the fact remains that the PS4's cpu is weak. It's weaker than the XB1, and it's weaker than the PS3's. Open world games, and especially ones using older engines are going to be more cpu intensive than gpu intensive. That puts the PS4 at a distinct disadvantage. Try harder bruh.

Free FO3, and mods are a pretty big "deal with them". If it were Sony, they would use the phrase, "We're treating FO4 as though it was a first party game", but MS doesn't spew crap like that.

You're going to have to do better than that with me.

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#38  Edited By ProtossX
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@babyjoker1221 said:

@ProtossX: lmao! Keep up the good fight there buddy.

DR3 isn't even available on PS4, so any comparison your trying to make there fails horribly.

FO3 isn't available on PS4, and won't be any time soon, so again.... Your logic fails.

"What you heard"? Mods haven't been confirmed for the PS4, and most likely won't be. Better luck next time champ.

While these are new consoles that are much more similar to pc's, the fact remains that the PS4's cpu is weak. It's weaker than the XB1, and it's weaker than the PS3's. Open world games, and especially ones using older engines are going to be more cpu intensive than gpu intensive. That puts the PS4 at a distinct disadvantage. Try harder bruh.

Free FO3, and mods are a pretty big "deal with them". If it were Sony, they would use the phrase, "We're treating FO4 as though it was a first party game", but MS doesn't spew crap like that.

You're going to have to do better than that with me.

The ps4/xb1 have the same cpu, but the xb1 cpu has some of its cpu dedicated to the kinect I think its like 2 cores or something saw the ps4 cpu is always at full power for the system while xbone has to leave some of its cpu open for kinect at all times even when you don't have a kinect

Also I think the XB1 UI uses more ram/cpu so its hurting gameplay in games and they haven't addressed that either xbone ui has some lag when your in game the ps4 is smoother in an out of game.

I think the xbone cpu is slightly overclocked but ui/kinect is makes it worse next time they should let it just run on its own an build a less resource hog like the xb1 / kinect ui. Just make it more like windows 7 / ps4 / 360 etc less like windows 8 / windows phone

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Picking up Fallout 4 for PS4 wasn't on my mind to begin with and I almost forgot that Skyrim had issues on PS3. I was considering the Xbox One version but I'll get the PC version. My HP ENVY Core i7, 32GB RAM and GTX 980 4GB can probably run this game in full settings at 60FPS. I think I may skip the Xbox One version and buy the PC version.

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#40 nintendoboy16
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I think people are worried about FO4 period. You know, "Todd Howard's lies" and all.

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just get it for PC and and you will have nothing to worry about

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#42 tormentos
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@Shinobishyguy said:

Maybe I'm just being paranoid but bethesda games don't exactly have the best track record on sony consoles. Hell the ps3 version of skyrim still has crashing issues. Plus all the promo material has been shown on Xbone so I dunno.

That being said the ps4 is a different beast compared to the ps3 and it seems like devs don't have the same issue porting their games over so maybe I'm worrying over nothing

After ACU i think anything is possible.

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@ProtossX: The XB1 has 5 full cores available to devs, and up to 80% of the 6th core if they need it. Devs have some leeway on the 6th core, and can disable all but the most basic functions of the kinect to access it if they choose.

The PS4 only has 5 1/2 cores for devs to use. As simple and basic as the PS4's UI is, Sony engineers still can't manage to improve this. MS's software engineers by comparison are wizards when it comes to that.

All this is before the fact that the XB1's cpu is overclocked. Of course Sony could simply overclock the PS4's cpu, except for the fact that they engineered the damn thing with poor ventilation and an internal power supply... causing the PS4 to run hot, and consistently peak it's thermal limit as is. Sony won't be over clocking the PS4 any time soon, or it would literally melt the console.

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#44 tormentos
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@babyjoker1221 said:

@ProtossX: The XB1 has 5 full cores available to devs, and up to 80% of the 6th core if they need it. Devs have some leeway on the 6th core, and can disable all but the most basic functions of the kinect to access it if they choose.

The PS4 only has 5 1/2 cores for devs to use. As simple and basic as the PS4's UI is, Sony engineers still can't manage to improve this. MS's software engineers by comparison are wizards when it comes to that.

All this is before the fact that the XB1's cpu is overclocked. Of course Sony could simply overclock the PS4's cpu, except for the fact that they engineered the damn thing with poor ventilation and an internal power supply... causing the PS4 to run hot, and consistently peak it's thermal limit as is. Sony won't be over clocking the PS4 any time soon, or it would literally melt the console.

The PS4 uses 6 cores and the Xbox one uses 7.

And all that served for shit on Project cars..hahahaaa

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#45 Pray_to_me
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Ps4 is more powerful than Xbone get over it. Every multiplat has looked better on PS4 as well. Xbone couldn't even run CoD in 1080p what a joke. Xbone is closer in power to 360 then it is to PS4. That's what happens when you have a gimped gpu and slow ass ddr3 ram.

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#46 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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The PS4 has not only superior hardware than the X1 but its also easier to develop for than the PS3 was at the time. Dont see how can they screw up again