Anyone Surprised that the 360 still has THIS kind of Power. RAGE

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#1 bryn8150
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Rage litteraly blew Adam Seesler of X-Play and everyone at E3 2010 away with its Bleeding edge visuals and lightning fast frame rate running on the same XBOX 360 arcade you have sitting on your shelf.

( KEEP IN MIND THIS IS MULTIPLAT BUT THEY SHOWED THE 360 VERSION AT E3 2010 )

now, Despite the fact that ATI themselves said that developers were barely scratching the surface of what the 360 could do ( back in 2007 no less...) is anyone here who owns a 360 ( or Hates it ) surprised that now in 2010 the 360 is running a game that clearly looks better than anything else on the market despite its detractors saying it was '' Maxxed out ''.

Anyone not impressed by this has issues....

link to video from E3 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdNrAyABDXI

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#2 MFDOOM1983
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Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.
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#3 psn8214
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RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

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Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.MFDOOM1983
Carmack said both the 360 and PS3 versions will look the same.

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#5 Modern_Unit
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Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.MFDOOM1983

Keep dreamin'

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#6 markinthedark
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they say its maxed out because most games just use the unreal 3 engine and make minor tweaks. The unreal 3 engine is maxed out... not the hardware.

rage is running on the whole new id tech 5 engine. Alot of people underestimate exactly what a game engine can do... and id who are masters at developing game engines showed everyone.

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#7 Espada12
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RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

psn8214

This pretty much, RAGE strikes a balance of performance enhancing techniques and visuals.

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#8 fastr
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It would only surprise the people who worship and believe all the BS that Sony tells them. After watching some of that video.. am i the only one thinking, that looks like bioshock in the desert?
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#9 akbar13
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Pre-baked shadows? I don't think so.

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#10 DarkLink77
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RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

psn8214
Oh, it's doesn't have dynamic lighting! Game is obviously crap. :P Like it matters.
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#11 Dead-Memories
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Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.MFDOOM1983
such overwhelming evidence, when has a PS3 multiplat looked "lightyears" better?
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#12 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

DarkLink77

Oh, it's doesn't have dynamic lighting! Game is obviously crap. :P Like it matters.

I never said it was crap! :P I'm actually anticipating the title - the problem is, the game itself isn't indicative of any untapped power that either console may have - it merely makes use of certain techniques to give the illusion of this.


... and DarkLink, I'm a PC-gamer, you should know this by now. Dynamic lighting does matter to me! :x :P

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#13 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

psn8214

Oh, it's doesn't have dynamic lighting! Game is obviously crap. :P Like it matters.

I never said it was crap! :P I'm actually anticipating the title - the problem is, the game itself isn't indicative of any untapped power that either console may have - it merely makes use of certain techniques to give the illusion of this.


... and DarkLink, I'm a PC-gamer, you should know this by now. Dynamic lighting does matter to me! :x :P

Oh, I know psn, I was just kidding. :D

But as nice as dynamic lighting is (and id does it damn well), I really don't think it's necessary when the game looks so good. I mean, if you didn't know, would you notice?

And besides... I plan to get it on PC as well. You know, where id games are MEANT to be played (Carmack said there would be moar bells and whistles for teh PC). What is this console nonsense?

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And besides... I plan to get it on PC as well. You know, where id games are MEANT to be played (Carmack said there would be moar bells and whistles for teh PC). What is this console nonsense?

DarkLink77

Not sure, but I don't like it! :P

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#15 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And besides... I plan to get it on PC as well. You know, where id games are MEANT to be played (Carmack said there would be moar bells and whistles for teh PC). What is this console nonsense?

psn8214

Not sure, but I don't like it! :P

id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And besides... I plan to get it on PC as well. You know, where id games are MEANT to be played (Carmack said there would be moar bells and whistles for teh PC). What is this console nonsense?

DarkLink77

Not sure, but I don't like it! :P

id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!

ZOMG too late!

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Not sure, but I don't like it! :P

SparkyProtocol

id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!

ZOMG too late!

God save us all. *bows head*

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#18 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!psn8214

ZOMG too late!

God save us all. *bows head*

Repent, the end is nigh!!!!!

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#19 psn8214
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Repent, the end is nigh!!!!!

DarkLink77

You sir, are a blight! And you! And you!

:P :P :P

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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And besides... I plan to get it on PC as well. You know, where id games are MEANT to be played (Carmack said there would be moar bells and whistles for teh PC). What is this console nonsense?

DarkLink77

Not sure, but I don't like it! :P

id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!

My god, I hope Crytek doesn't fall prey to this console disease.........

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#21 psn8214
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Not sure, but I don't like it! :P

heretrix

id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!

My god, I hope Crytek doesn't fall prey to this console disease.........

I would assert that this has already happened, and if not, is certainly in the process of happening.

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#22 CrAppyF33ling
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Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.MFDOOM1983

now erase the PS3 and we are in agreement

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#23 heretrix
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Repent, the end is nigh!!!!!

psn8214

You sir, are a blight! And you! And you!

:P :P :P

:lol: I loved walking past that guy. hahaha...God I loved that game.

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#24 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Repent, the end is nigh!!!!!

heretrix

You sir, are a blight! And you! And you!

:P :P :P

:lol: I loved walking past that guy. hahaha...God I loved that game.

Me too. I'm on my fourth playthrough. :P

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!psn8214

My god, I hope Crytek doesn't fall prey to this console disease.........

I would assert that this has already happened, and if not, is certainly in the process of happening.

Man, I don't wanna come across as hating on consoles, but certain games need to stay PC exclusive, multiplat money be damned.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!psn8214

My god, I hope Crytek doesn't fall prey to this console disease.........

I would assert that this has already happened, and if not, is certainly in the process of happening.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Where's that Darth Vader pic when I need it?

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#27 akbar13
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

You sir, are a blight! And you! And you!

:P :P :P

psn8214

:lol: I loved walking past that guy. hahaha...God I loved that game.

Me too. I'm on my fourth playthrough. :P

You should go back to the Asari sig.

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#29 Oonga
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outside of pics, i havent even looked at a video of RAGE.

I just randomly skipped through that E3 video and.......wasnt this game supposed to be a racing game / fps hybrid?

looked like a normal shooter from what ive just seen.

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#30 PAL360
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Some ppl are surprised because 360´s capabilities have allways been pretty underhyped on these boards. It´s a powerfull console especially considering it´s 05 technology! As powerfull as a PS3

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#31 TehKillzonelova
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...U2, GOW3, and KZ2/3 all look much better

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#32 psn8214
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You should go back to the Asari sig.

akbar13

You know what? I will. I'm feelin' it at the moment.

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#33 akbar13
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[QUOTE="akbar13"]

You should go back to the Asari sig.

psn8214

You know what? I will. I'm feelin' it at the moment.

YAY! I thought you had a different Asari sig? I don't remember that one with Liara looking all sad. Maybe that was it though.
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#34 Pug-Nasty
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I don't know, the fast framerate is all that I'm impressed by as far as what I've seen. The "megatexture" is cool, and I can appreciate the effort, but I still find that it's one of those details I'll never notice in game. Like, this gen anyway, I've never been playing a game and said "oh, I've seen that texture so many times this game."

Just something I never notice. When I look at Rage's visuals, I don't think it looks that good. I think there are better looking 360 games, and that's not including other systems.

Still looks like it could be a fun game to me though, may pick it up if I see more exciting gameplay vids later on down the road, what I've seen so far looks boring and static.

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#35 WhenCicadasCry
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Like everyones been saying for ages, devs determine the power of consoles. What did you expect the gods of tech to achieve (iD and Crytek), when compared to other, less talented 3rd party devs? :? The fact that all of the PS3s best looking games were developed by 1st party with absurd dev costs, doesn't prove anything. The PS3 and 360 are roughly the same power, get over it. :roll:

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#36 bobbetybob
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RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

psn8214
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. At the end it doesn't matter how many technically amazing features the engine has, it's the finished result that matters.
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#37 bryn8150
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TehKillzonelova said.... U2, GOW3, and KZ2/3 all look much better You Sir....with all due respect, need Glasses. UC2, GOW3 and Killzone all look like Videogames. and OLD TECH at that. RAGE With its MegaTextures and animations is something else entirely. which is why it was unanimously handed best in show at E3.
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#38 psn8214
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YAY! I thought you had a different Asari sig? I don't remember that one with Liara looking all sad. Maybe that was it though.akbar13

I do, perhaps I will throw it on there. This was my original "Asari sig". :P

You make it sound like that's a bad thing. At the end it doesn't matter how many technically amazing features the engine has, it's the finished result that matters.bobbetybob

As I said to DarkLink, that is not what I intended. The game does indeed look amazing at this point. However, it should not be used a barometer for console "power" when it uses such features. That was my original point with that post. :P

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#39 93soccer
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Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.MFDOOM1983
PC yes PS3 nope.
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#40 JAB991
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Rage litteraly blew Adam Seesler of X-Play and everyone at E3 2010 away with its Bleeding edge visuals and lightning fast frame rate running on the same XBOX 360 arcade you have sitting on your shelf.

bryn8150
It literally did this? This games dangerous then.
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#41 Heil68
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It really is quite stunning. :lol:
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#42 SaltyMeatballs
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RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

psn8214
Much like the 30fps of Crysis 2 makes sense. (talking about consoles of course) Graphics don't come free, so developers have to use techniques to "trick" people into think it looks good. That being said, the Rage "tricks" are the best.
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#43 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

RAGE makes a ton of concessions with regard to its engine. When one actually reads up on it, the "lightening fast framerate" makes sense.

SaltyMeatballs

Much like the 30fps of Crysis 2 makes sense. (talking about consoles of course) Graphics don't come free, so developers have to use techniques to "trick" people into think it looks good. That being said, the Rage "tricks" are the best.

Exactly. :)

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Ps3 and pc versions will look light years better.Dead-Memories
such overwhelming evidence, when has a PS3 multiplat looked "lightyears" better?

Agreed, but I suspect he may have just been trolling...
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] id games on consoles. Lord almighty, next thing you know they'll be getting Unreal Tournament games, too!Espada12

My god, I hope Crytek doesn't fall prey to this console disease.........

Here!

:lol: awesome.