Are broken 360's the reason for high system sales?

I Know sales matter in a sense, Higher game sales lead to better production cost for sequels. But as far as system sales 360 is apparently the high seller between PS3 and 360. But could there be a reason behind this? But as I know the 360 failure rate is around 30% could broken 360's be the cause of high system sales for MS? I mean I know for a fact that I have owned 2 360's so if most 360 owners have had to buy multiple consoles, is it the cause of high system sales?Animal-Mother

no. high system failure of the 360 is HURTING sales for them. The word has got out and people are now less likely to buy a 360 because they fear it might break. Those people probably buy a wii or a ps3 instead. the xbox360 is the worst built console ever . My brother has had several problems with his DVD drive. even after getting it back from M$ it still acts up. I dont know many people that have a PS3, but everyone knows at least somebody that has a broken Xbox360. BUT the people that i know that have a broken 360, they get it fixed. They arent impatient enough to just go BUY another one. NO WAY you'd catch me buying another xbox360 if mine broke. I would get it fixed. seems like a no-brainer.

the "high system sales" is probably due to the great games (some exclusive) like Bioshock, Gears of war, Ninja Gaiden2, GTA IV, Ace Combat 6, COD4, and the fact that Xboxlive is the best way to play against people online.

I personally have never bought a console more than once. All the consoles i own are the original ones i bought. i guess i'm just lucky.....

maybe the majority opinion that 360 > PS3 and price determines higher sales.Cole-Protocal

[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]maybe the majority opinion that 360 > PS3 and price determines higher sales.Animal-Mother

global sales buddy. currentl about 8 million more people think a Xbox 360 is worth their money over a PS3.

[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]maybe the majority opinion that 360 > PS3 and price determines higher sales.Animal-Mother

You gave one view on the sales, he gave another, whats the problem? He never said that WAS the reason, he said "maybe", which is basically the same thing you said in the OP, "maybe".

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]I Know sales matter in a sense, Higher game sales lead to better production cost for sequels. But as far as system sales 360 is apparently the high seller between PS3 and 360. But could there be a reason behind this? But as I know the 360 failure rate is around 30% could broken 360's be the cause of high system sales for MS? I mean I know for a fact that I have owned 2 360's so if most 360 owners have had to buy multiple consoles, is it the cause of high system sales?Nedemis

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]maybe the majority opinion that 360 > PS3 and price determines higher sales.Cole-Protocal

global sales buddy. currentl about 8 million more people think a Xbox 360 is worth their money over a PS3.

No. Microsoft doesn't count the millions of systems they have replaced in their official numbers.Wasdie

The only problem with your theory is MS has a 3 year warranty in place, if your 360 RROD's, you get it fixed for free and after they fix it, they send it back out to you, so how can they count a 360 that was fixed and returned to you as a console sold?Nagidar

This has a lot of truth to it, infact I was recently looking over my old posts and I came across this that I posted back in May

If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..Me 6 months ago

It supports your argument completely so here you go, I know the figures are out of date now though

I Know sales matter in a sense, Higher game sales lead to better production cost for sequels. But as far as system sales 360 is apparently the high seller between PS3 and 360. But could there be a reason behind this? But as I know the 360 failure rate is around 30% could broken 360's be the cause of high system sales for MS? I mean I know for a fact that I have owned 2 360's so if most 360 owners have had to buy multiple consoles, is it the cause of high system sales?Animal-Mother

Actually no, since 360 has 3 years guarantee

So, the 30% failure rate (which is a totally fake number BTW) probably translates to a 3% actual new cosnole purshases

This has a lot of truth to it, infact I was recently looking over my old posts and I came across this that I posted back in May

[quote="Me 6 months ago"]If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..PS_John

It supports your argument completely so here you go, I know the figures are out of date now though

lol wut?

I have just updated the data from my previous post and I found this

Xbox 360
27.24M Sold

Then take away 30% and you get..

19.068M Sold!!

PS3
19.27M Sold

Souce: VGChartz

So if it wasn't for the RROD the PS3 would be ahead.

Makes you wonder if the RROD was some twisted marketing plan by M$

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]I Know sales matter in a sense, Higher game sales lead to better production cost for sequels. But as far as system sales 360 is apparently the high seller between PS3 and 360. But could there be a reason behind this? But as I know the 360 failure rate is around 30% could broken 360's be the cause of high system sales for MS? I mean I know for a fact that I have owned 2 360's so if most 360 owners have had to buy multiple consoles, is it the cause of high system sales?Teufelhuhn

I have just updated the data from my previous post and I found this

Xbox 360
27.24M Sold

Then take away 30% and you get..

19.068M Sold!!

PS3
19.27M Sold

Souce: VGChartz

So if it wasn't for the RROD the PS3 would be ahead.

Makes you wonder if the RROD was some twisted marketing plan by M$

PS_John

What? Theres a 3 year RROD warranty, so that throws your whole point out the window.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]maybe the majority opinion that 360 > PS3 and price determines higher sales.Cole-Protocal

global sales buddy. currentl about 8 million more people think a Xbox 360 is worth their money over a PS3.

It just means that there are currentl about 8 million 8 year olds that bought an arcade because it was cheap.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]

I have just updated the data from my previous post and I found this

Xbox 360
27.24M Sold

Then take away 30% and you get..

19.068M Sold!!

PS3
19.27M Sold

Souce: VGChartz

So if it wasn't for the RROD the PS3 would be ahead.

Makes you wonder if the RROD was some twisted marketing plan by M$

Nagidar

What? Theres a 3 year RROD warranty, so that throws your whole point out the window.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]

This has a lot of truth to it, infact I was recently looking over my old posts and I came across this that I posted back in May

[quote="Me 6 months ago"]If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..Republican11

It supports your argument completely so here you go, I know the figures are out of date now though

lol wut?

This has a lot of truth to it, infact I was recently looking over my old posts and I came across this that I posted back in May

[quote="Me 6 months ago"]If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..PS_John

It supports your argument completely so here you go, I know the figures are out of date now though

thank you Ps_John, i am smart cuz of this post:oops:

I Know sales matter in a sense, Higher game sales lead to better production cost for sequels. But as far as system sales 360 is apparently the high seller between PS3 and 360. But could there be a reason behind this? But as I know the 360 failure rate is around 30% could broken 360's be the cause of high system sales for MS? I mean I know for a fact that I have owned 2 360's so if most 360 owners have had to buy multiple consoles, is it the cause of high system sales?Animal-Mother

funny..nobody brought this up last gen when it was concerning the ps2's 140 million unit successlawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]funny..nobody brought this up last gen when it was concerning the ps2's 140 million unit successTeufelhuhn

hows your XNA game coming along btw?

I Know sales matter in a sense, Higher game sales lead to better production cost for sequels. But as far as system sales 360 is apparently the high seller between PS3 and 360. But could there be a reason behind this? But as I know the 360 failure rate is around 30% could broken 360's be the cause of high system sales for MS? I mean I know for a fact that I have owned 2 360's so if most 360 owners have had to buy multiple consoles, is it the cause of high system sales?Animal-Mother