Are console graphics looking dated?

After seeing a few console games like red dead it seems console games are really starting to look kinda bad. it looks so low res with little aa . i dont have a high end pc but it sure spanks consoles. I think its time for some new consoles. I really dont see why move and natal are coming out near the end of this gen . will they also use them for ps4 and 720?

dated as compared to what exactly?

idk about you, but i'm enjoying looking at my horses ass muscles flex as he walks

After seeing a few console games like red dead it seems console games are really starting to look kinda bad. it looks so low res with little aa . i dont have a high end pc but it sure spanks consoles. I think its time for some new consoles. I really dont see why move and natal are coming out near the end of this gen . will they also use them for ps4 and 720?

dontshackzmii

Not when there's games like KZ2/Uncharted 2/AW (for the lighting and atmosphere it creates - relax everyone!) and ME2 .Ravensmash

Uncharted and kill zone is all smoke and mirros . It still is low res ! Consoles are way to limted in meory this gen .

do people REALLY care about visuals THIS much? lol

sigh, i miss the old days

can't believe people think RDR looks bad

do people REALLY care about visuals THIS much? lol

sigh, i miss the old days

can't believe people think RDR looks bad

CDUB316

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

do people REALLY care about visuals THIS much? lol

sigh, i miss the old days

can't believe people think RDR looks bad

ferret-gamer

well not every game must out do the other games IMO...especially when the world is so massive and there is so much to do

They're good enough to me. I rarely notice visual discrepancies until this forums points them out to me.

And even then, it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the games in any way.

do people REALLY care about visuals THIS much? lol

sigh, i miss the old days

can't believe people think RDR looks bad

CDUB316

some games look pretty bad these days. Console hardware is holding back gaming . 5 year old hardware needs to be upgraded . its kinda sad how ps3 has a tiny improvement in graphics and it came out a year later and at a high price .

put away the graphics card and enjoy the good games.

This gen should be a lesson for pretty much everyone that focusing on graphics has only damaged the pure essence of gaming.

It's time to consider the graphics as one of the aspects, not THE aspect.

Sticking with the current gen will allow devs to focus more on gameplay and detail instead of having to learn new hardware and fight for the next tech achievement.

Games like Alan Wake, Metro 2033, STALKER and even SWAT4 are so rich in atmosphere and detail its not just about how powerful the hardware and tech is, its about making the world look real, lived in, and believable.

some games look pretty bad these days. Console hardware is holding back gaming . 5 year old hardware needs to be upgraded . its kinda sad how ps3 has a tiny improvement in graphics and it came out a year later and at a high price .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

dated as compared to what exactly?

Ginosaji

The PC.

my geforce 9800 is so dated comapred to the new gfx cards. if developers were to stay "updated" all the time, they'd need to develop games within 6 months time and then move on to the superior hardware. games should NOT follow this scheme. first you learn how to use a certain tech to its fullest, then you can move on to a more advanced one, but always keeping in mind that games are not only a graphics showcase.

ehh

[QUOTE="Ginosaji"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

dated as compared to what exactly?

italygamer

The PC.

my geforce 9800 is so dated comapred to the new gfx cards. if developers were to stay "updated" all the time, they'd need to develop games within 6 months time and then move on to the superior hardware. games should NOT follow this scheme. first you learn how to use a certain tech to its fullest, then you can move on to a more advanced one, but always keeping in mind that games are not only a graphics showcase.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

some games look pretty bad these days. Console hardware is holding back gaming . 5 year old hardware needs to be upgraded . its kinda sad how ps3 has a tiny improvement in graphics and it came out a year later and at a high price .

Ravensmash

games are being gimped to run on the low amount of ram consoles have. I am also sick of seeing console games running at 800x600 with no aa . with that res you might as well use an SD tv .

Kz2/U2/GOW3 all disprove whatever claims you have about consoles showing their visual age...Well at least for the PS3

As compared to a certain game released way back in 2007, yes, yes they are outdated, a generation behind in fact.IgorAntunov

Kz2/U2/GOW3 all disprove whatever claims you have about consoles showing their visual age...Well at least for the PS3

randomguy1235

Oh please those games are running at like 1024x768 and it cant even do real AA they have to use tricks like blurying frames to get rig of the jaggies .

[QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]As compared to a certain game released way back in 2007, yes, yes they are outdated, a generation behind in fact.randomguy1235

Frankly, I think every single game released these days are outdated. I don't have a time-machine nor is my PC respectable, but sometimes I wonder what sort of game would we see if you had a game that made the same leap as Crysis did when compared with 2004. I mean HL2 (still looks good) to Crysis was a giant leap as far as technology goes, and now we find ourselves hoping Crysis 2 is at least comparable with the first one. We are stuck...

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

some games look pretty bad these days. Console hardware is holding back gaming . 5 year old hardware needs to be upgraded . its kinda sad how ps3 has a tiny improvement in graphics and it came out a year later and at a high price .

dontshackzmii

games are being gimped to run on the low amount of ram consoles have. I am also sick of seeing console games running at 800x600 with no aa . with that res you might as well use an SD tv .

[QUOTE="randomguy1235"][QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]As compared to a certain game released way back in 2007, yes, yes they are outdated, a generation behind in fact.o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="randomguy1235"][QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]As compared to a certain game released way back in 2007, yes, yes they are outdated, a generation behind in fact.o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="randomguy1235"] ....A gen behind...:roll:. There are some aspects of KZ2/GOW3/U2 that are better than Crysis...randomguy1235

only two points you have there can be said to be arguably correct. the rest of your claims are laughable at best.

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How in graphics, facial animations, physics, explorerable scale, sound and special effects do any of those titles match or surpass crysis? o0squishy0o

only two points you have there can be said to be arguably correct. the rest of your claims are laughable at best.

[QUOTE="randomguy1235"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

only two points you have there can be said to be arguably correct. the rest of your claims are laughable at best.

ferret-gamer

you are delusional or a troll. If they are factual can you prove any of them at all?

kz2:

1. better physics. NO

2. Ragdolls. ill give you that.

3. weapon models, a couple of them are better but not all

4. Lighting, NO

U2:

1. Better physics. lol NO

2. Sound effects. meybe

GOW3:

1. Scale, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2. Character models, NO

3. sound effects, meybe

4. MLAA, *facepalm.

U2 definately has better sound effects by far, and like ive mentioned before, the physics calculations are more impressive.

GOW3 Does have a much larger scale....Its rather obvious... Kratos's character model by itself decimates all of Crysis's character models. Sound effects most definately. MLAA yields higher results than Crysis's AA method...No need to facepalm...

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[QUOTE="randomguy1235"] How are they laughable? Explain to me...The points i have listed are factual...randomguy1235

you are delusional or a troll. If they are factual can you prove any of them at all?

kz2:

1. better physics. NO

2. Ragdolls. ill give you that.

3. weapon models, a couple of them are better but not all

4. Lighting, NO

U2:

1. Better physics. lol NO

2. Sound effects. meybe

GOW3:

1. Scale, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2. Character models, NO

3. sound effects, meybe

4. MLAA, *facepalm.

U2 definately has better sound effects by far, and like ive mentioned before, the physics calculations are more impressive.

GOW3 Does have a much larger scale....Its rather obvious... Kratos's character model by itself decimates all of Crysis's character models. Sound effects most definately. MLAA yields higher results than Crysis's AA method...No need to facepalm...

Oh hi hamaz or whatever your name is did you get banned from your picture spamming or something?

1. AA, lets see, i can do Msaa, Csaa QCSAA, and real time Supersampling in crysis along with some other types, if you think mlaa stands up to 16xQ AA, much less super sampling you need to get your head out of your butt. 2. crysis lighting looks much more realistic than kz2. d http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/1807t_crop.jpg 3. Physics, still no. why dont you show me some of uc2's great physics, i never noticed anything spectacular when playing, also show me kz2s superior physics, i havent seen anything amazing bout that either. 4. Scale. smoke and mirrors=\=scale 5. character models, still no sorry. 4.

After seeing a few console games like red dead it seems console games are really starting to look kinda bad. it looks so low res with little aa . i dont have a high end pc but it sure spanks consoles. I think its time for some new consoles. I really dont see why move and natal are coming out near the end of this gen . will they also use them for ps4 and 720?

dontshackzmii

To be honest, I was never really impressed with this gen, visually. It wasn't until I got a ps3 and saw Uncharted, Killzone, and God of War that I was somewhat impressed. The problem is that I expected this gen of consoles to produce visuals of those games calibur off the bat.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

you are delusional or a troll. If they are factual can you prove any of them at all?

kz2:

1. better physics. NO

2. Ragdolls. ill give you that.

3. weapon models, a couple of them are better but not all

4. Lighting, NO

U2:

1. Better physics. lol NO

2. Sound effects. meybe

GOW3:

1. Scale, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2. Character models, NO

3. sound effects, meybe

4. MLAA, *facepalm.

U2 definately has better sound effects by far, and like ive mentioned before, the physics calculations are more impressive.

GOW3 Does have a much larger scale....Its rather obvious... Kratos's character model by itself decimates all of Crysis's character models. Sound effects most definately. MLAA yields higher results than Crysis's AA method...No need to facepalm...

Oh hi hamaz or whatever your name is did you get banned from your picture spamming or something?

1. AA, lets see, i can do Msaa, Csaa QCSAA, and real time Supersampling in crysis along with some other types, if you think mlaa stands up to 16xQ AA, much less super sampling you need to get your head out of your butt. 2. crysis lighting looks much more realistic than kz2. d http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/1807t_crop.jpg 3. Physics, still no. why dont you show me some of uc2's great physics, i never noticed anything spectacular when playing, also show me kz2s superior physics, i havent seen anything amazing bout that either. 4. Scale. smoke and mirrors=\=scale 5. character models, still no sorry. 4.

[QUOTE="randomguy1235"] Yes KZ2 has better physics calculations per object that reacts differently to many real-time aspects All the WEAPON MODELS IN KZ2 ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH RESOLUTION...Maybe if you play the game, you will realise...KZ2 uses a purpose blur on the weapon models to give a cinematic look on the weapon models to mimic CGI, so when you play it,(instead of watching low res videos), you will feel like your playing a CGI-like cinematic experience A deffered light rendering engine that can display over 300+ dynamic light sources on the screen at any given time is better than an HDR lighting solution

U2 definately has better sound effects by far, and like ive mentioned before, the physics calculations are more impressive.

GOW3 Does have a much larger scale....Its rather obvious... Kratos's character model by itself decimates all of Crysis's character models. Sound effects most definately. MLAA yields higher results than Crysis's AA method...No need to facepalm...

Oh hi hamaz or whatever your name is did you get banned from your picture spamming or something?

1. AA, lets see, i can do Msaa, Csaa QCSAA, and real time Supersampling in crysis along with some other types, if you think mlaa stands up to 16xQ AA, much less super sampling you need to get your head out of your butt. 2. crysis lighting looks much more realistic than kz2. d http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/1807t_crop.jpg 3. Physics, still no. why dont you show me some of uc2's great physics, i never noticed anything spectacular when playing, also show me kz2s superior physics, i havent seen anything amazing bout that either. 4. Scale. smoke and mirrors=\=scale 5. character models, still no sorry. 4.

I'm not saying I don't want new consoles eventually, and I recognize the two consoles' technical limitations extend beyond graphics, but frankly I could be happy with PS3/360-level graphics for the rest of my gaming career. I don't care much about AA, I guess I never noticed what other people notice.

I've also been gaming every generation since the NES, and have never made that comment for any other generation. Graphics are simply good enough now to fulfill their purpose of creating an immersive environment; photorealism is unnecessary.

Dated compared to PC? Of course they do. But if I wanted to paly PC games, id buy a gaming rig.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Not when there's games like KZ2/Uncharted 2/AW (for the lighting and atmosphere it creates - relax everyone!) and ME2 .dontshackzmii

Uncharted and kill zone is all smoke and mirros . It still is low res ! Consoles are way to limted in meory this gen .

Smoke and mirrors or not, it still looked like the statue of liberty disappeared.

Yes the 360's old hardware is making all multi-plats look dated, but PS3 exclusives still have power left to rival a gaming PC.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Not when there's games like KZ2/Uncharted 2/AW (for the lighting and atmosphere it creates - relax everyone!) and ME2 .topgunmv

Uncharted and kill zone is all smoke and mirros . It still is low res ! Consoles are way to limted in meory this gen .

Smoke and mirrors or not, it still looked like the statue of liberty disappeared.

Besides all games are smoke and mirrors.. psst.. games are not REAL:P

But nice to see the hermits are out swinging:P